No Herod didn't kill Jesus, Jesus GAVE his life. I was speaking of killing the babies at the birth of Christ. Sorry.
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Not sure that those who already agreed with you continuing to agree with you proves God is moving in anything. Just as many people on the other side of the aisle have proven their points too. Should VCO and I pat each other on the back and claim that God has disproven your beliefs?
Gotcha. I didn't think of the early days. But none the less, Herod was an instrument in Jesus giving His life.
And the reason for two years old and under, is that is how long ago the MAGI told Harod they first saw the Star. NO the MAGI were not at the Manger, it says they came to the HOUSE where the Young Child was.
Matthew 2:11 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.
I am not the one identifying NON-JEWS as ISRAEL. Your errors spawn out the Not understanding that GOD IS NOT FINISHED with ISRAEL.
God is laughing at them. Many Jews have been wanting a new temple since 70 AD but God has put one obstacle after another in front of them.
Following the war with Rome, many Jewish Christians returned to the area but they had no desire to rebuild the temple knowing that God established the temple within them. They also lacked the resources to build much of anything as Rome had completely demolished everything. Rome burned everything and destroyed all the trees for many miles. The whole landscape appeared as a desert.
Then in 130 AD Roman Emperor Hadrian rebuilt Jerusalem as a Roman city which he called "Aelia Capitolina. This prompted the Bar Kokhba revolt in 132 which lasted 3 years. After this the Jews were no longer allowed in the city except for once a year for Tisha B'Av. The Christian Jews lived immediately outside the city as the ban continued until the 7th century although in the 4th century Constantine allowed many Christian sites to be rebuilt. During the entire Byzantine era Christians dominated the region. I digress.
It is my belief that God will never allow there to be another Jewish temple and He certainly would not honor it as holy considering it was God Himself who aided the Romans in destroying it in the first place.
Rick, you are going to be wrong about that one. The blue prints are DONE, and so are All the Temple Artifacts, and the Temple Priests are in training, as we speak.
Honest those Scriptures apply to All of us Christians. What have you done to advance the Gospel and Kingdom in ISRAEL?
SORRY Rick, I thought you were saying they will not build the Temple. I had another attack of GETTING-OLD-ITUS, or read it to fast for my age.
KJV1611,
Do you realize what you just did?? You just agreed with me. The time of Jacob's trouble wasn't the Cross, it came 36 years later during the War with Rome. Notice only those found in the Book were delivered? These delivered were the 144K Christian Jews who were divinely led to Pella, of the Decapolis, a region where Jesus once passed and from whence people came to hear Him. Jesus was likely already working on this region to accept His church from His wrath to come upon all of Judea and Samaria.
You are correct in citing Dan 12. Here this is clearly the Great Tribulation, the War of the Jews, the end of the ages. It is here where Daniel is told to rest and arise at the "end of days" which meant the end of the nation of Israel.
Do you realize what you just did?? You just agreed with me. The time of Jacob's trouble wasn't the Cross, it came 36 years later during the War with Rome. Notice only those found in the Book were delivered? These delivered were the 144K Christian Jews who were divinely led to Pella, of the Decapolis, a region where Jesus once passed and from whence people came to hear Him. Jesus was likely already working on this region to accept His church from His wrath to come upon all of Judea and Samaria.
You are correct in citing Dan 12. Here this is clearly the Great Tribulation, the War of the Jews, the end of the ages. It is here where Daniel is told to rest and arise at the "end of days" which meant the end of the nation of Israel.
Again, prophecy is the word of God and the word of God is eternal. It does not become moot at a set point in time. Being eternal it echoes thru time. The Jews rejected their Bridegroom and got their come-uppance, now the gentiles are rejecting their Bridegroom and they will receive their come-uppance. The two positions, past vs future, are not mutually exclusive! Really, if you get down to the gnats rear about it, it's happening right now while we speak. Right this moment, somewhere in this world, someone is leaving it and finding themselves before Christ among a multitude of praising saints from the beginning of time, about to be screened for entrance into the Wedding Feast.
KJV, VCO, you're both right and you're both wrong. The eternality of God's word says these events are not exclusive of each other.
Gonna be on the road next day or two. Bless you guys for keeping this civil!
KJV, VCO, you're both right and you're both wrong. The eternality of God's word says these events are not exclusive of each other.
Gonna be on the road next day or two. Bless you guys for keeping this civil!
I doubt He even lets them build it although I know they are determined to do so. I spoke with a group of them when I was there in 2015, so I know how eager they are to rebuild the Temple. I just don't see it happening.