The Rapture
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according to this, the church has already been translated into the Kingdom of Gods Son
colossians 1:12-14 "Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins
ephesians 2:6 "And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
which is really, why repentance of sin is necassary, because we are always in His presence whether in a church pew, or any other time whether in secret or public.
Old Testament Saints (John the Baptist last one [Lk 7:28]), the church/the bride of Christ, tribulation saints.
We, the church, are overcomers (Re 2-3). The tribulation saints will be overcome (Re 13:7a, 9–10a). In other words, they get their heads chopped off, watch the torture of their loves ones chopping off fingers in front of them one by one. They cannot take the mark of the beast or they will be forever lost--no chance of heaven and become a beast (dna manipulation).
2 comings: 1. in the clouds--the rapture 2. The Second Coming
A first resurrection (better [Re 20:6]) and a second resurrection.
1 Co 15:3-4
Men have always been saved the same way--by grace through faith (see: Hall of Faith [Heb 11]).
2 Ti 1:7
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arent you the same lady who thinks God is bound by time?????????? open theist?????????? yeah i take no advice from you sorry to be rude but i dont trust anyone who has a God who is timebound!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You should ask yourself if God intended us to understand his plans regarding the last days would he make it so complicated? The second question to consider is why would he allow the church to ''Forget'' such a supposed important
teaching for 2000 years and then reveal it to John Darby a known 19th Century cult leader and Cyrus Schofield his primary promoter
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Stick to the truth.
There is one group of saints made up of Old and New Testament saints..
There is one rapture at the second coming.
There is a spiritual resurrection (John 5.25; Eph 2.5-6; Col 3.1; Revelation 20.4-5) and a physical resurrection (John 5.28-9).
There is one kingdom, the heavenly kingdom, which men can enter while on earth.
There is one Gospel.
Aren't you the one who believes that God is watching a DVD of our lives play out in the sky?
He doesn't see a difference between His Appearing and His Second Coming.
Perhaps he has trouble understanding English.
Titus 2:13 (CSBBible)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] while we wait for the blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.
THERE YOU GO AGAIN throwing stones at the RCC in ERROR. That is not the FALSE RELIGION IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS WHAT THE FALSE RELIGION IS, and it is NOT the Roman Catholic Church.
Revelation 20:4 (NIV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
As far as I am concerned everyone who tries to imply that the RCC is the FALSE WORLD RELIGION, is guilty of committing the thing that GOD HATES MOST OF ALL:
Proverbs 6:16-19 (CSBBible)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] The LORD hates six things;
in fact, seven are detestable to him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP] arrogant eyes, a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
[SUP]18 [/SUP] a heart that plots wicked schemes,
feet eager to run to evil,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] a lying witness who gives false testimony,
and one who stirs up trouble among brothers.
Now, while it does specifically say where Christ poured HIS Blood out, it CERTAINLY implied it, because everything about the Tabernacle and the Temple were picture prophecies of the Heavenly ones.
Leviticus 8:13-15 (CSBBible)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Then Moses presented Aaron's sons, clothed them with tunics, wrapped sashes around them, and fastened headbands on them, as the LORD had commanded Moses.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]
Then he brought the bull near for the sin offering, and Aaron and his sons laid their hands on the head of the bull for the sin offering.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Then Moses slaughtered it, took the blood, and applied it with his finger to the horns of the altar on all sides, purifying the altar. He poured out the blood at the base of the altar and consecrated it so that atonement can be made on it.
Other than that, we are certainly on the same page.
THERE YOU GO AGAIN throwing stones at the RCC in ERROR. That is not the FALSE RELIGION IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS WHAT THE FALSE RELIGION IS, and it is NOT the Roman Catholic Church.
Revelation 20:4 (NIV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
As far as I am concerned everyone who tries to imply that the RCC is the FALSE WORLD RELIGION, is guilty of committing the thing that GOD HATES MOST OF ALL:
Proverbs 6:16-19 (CSBBible)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] The LORD hates six things;
in fact, seven are detestable to him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP] arrogant eyes, a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
[SUP]18 [/SUP] a heart that plots wicked schemes,
feet eager to run to evil,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] a lying witness who gives false testimony,
and one who stirs up trouble among brothers.
Now, while it does specifically say where Christ poured HIS Blood out, it CERTAINLY implied it, because everything about the Tabernacle and the Temple were picture prophecies of the Heavenly ones.
Leviticus 8:13-15 (CSBBible)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Then Moses presented Aaron's sons, clothed them with tunics, wrapped sashes around them, and fastened headbands on them, as the LORD had commanded Moses.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]
Then he brought the bull near for the sin offering, and Aaron and his sons laid their hands on the head of the bull for the sin offering.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Then Moses slaughtered it, took the blood, and applied it with his finger to the horns of the altar on all sides, purifying the altar. He poured out the blood at the base of the altar and consecrated it so that atonement can be made on it.
Other than that, we are certainly on the same page.
You say that we are not in the time of the 10 toes/horns yet. So we are still in the time of the iron legs, according to you.
Who were the iron legs 1000 yrs ago? Dan 2?
Who were the iron legs 500 yrs ago?
Who were the iron legs 200 yrs ago?
Who, are the iron legs, right now?
No one, the Iron Legs were the Roman Empire that FELL.
The GOLD HEAD was the Babylonian Empire - known for their Gold Smiths.
The Silver Chest was theMedo/Persian Empire - known for the Silver Smiths.
The Brass or Bronze Waist was the Greek Empire of Alexander the Great - known for Brass Smiths.
The Iron Legs was the Roman Empire - known for their Iron Smiths.
The Feet and Toes of Iron mixed with Clay is the Revived Roman Empire, possibly the European Union.
The different parts of that Statue, represent dominating EMPIRES not a City.
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Do you believe in a physical, literal, bodily resurrection of Jesus?
Yes but in a resurrection glorified body.
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He doesn't see a difference between His Appearing and His Second Coming.
Perhaps he has trouble understanding English.
Titus 2:13 (CSBBible)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] while we wait for the blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.
So you don't think He appears at His second coming?
Hi, mid-trib is actually post-trib because you have the rapture happening after the tribulation even if it is only part of the tribulation. Pre-trib was invented by John Darby around 1830, one only has to look up pre-tribulation rapture in an encyclopedia and it will give you the story.