The Nephilim

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Moses_Young

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Aramaic Bible in Plain English
But abstain from foolish debates, from tales of genealogies, from contentions and from the contests of The Scribes, for there is no profit in them and such things are worthless. Titus 3:9
This is not a foolish debate, though. It is very relevant to the current "vaccination" that some are claiming is the Mark of the Beast. Corrupting the DNA of man, as was being done in the days of Noah.
 

Tim6142

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You're welcome I'm quite new to this thread and just did a quick search for this topic of which I have been interested in for years. at a young age I witnessed a UFO sighting that could not be explained away even though I was a young Christian at the time I did not have the depth of knowledge in scripture to understand but somehow knew that it was a sign and that something had to be answered for me personally about what I saw. I'm sure I'm not the only Christian on this journey and the rabbit hole is deep but as long as you filter everything through the scriptures I believe the answers are there for us to see.
 
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You're welcome I'm quite new to this thread and just did a quick search for this topic of which I have been interested in for years. at a young age I witnessed a UFO sighting that could not be explained away even though I was a young Christian at the time I did not have the depth of knowledge in scripture to understand but somehow knew that it was a sign and that something had to be answered for me personally about what I saw. I'm sure I'm not the only Christian on this journey and the rabbit hole is deep but as long as you filter everything through the scriptures I believe the answers are there for us to see.
I saw plenty of UFO's myself back when I was young and stepping out side to smoke a joint at night.A lot of times with my younger sister.We'd focus up at clear skys and try to be the first to spot anything.Jets,satellites,shooting stars,UFO's.Most of the time they pretend to act like jets or a star before just shutting off.Over time I came to the conclusion that they know when they are being noticed.Or even want your attention.
One night while trying to set up a fishing net with my 2 sisters,nephew and a cousin.We just finished smoking and looking up at a clear sky and my younger sister and cousin saw 2 dim lights heading towards each other and started rotating around each other.I couldn't see what they were looking at.
But about an hour later everyone at the back of the boat started getting excited saying 'look,look'.It was a green cigar shaped UFO as big or maybe bigger than a truck,cutting across the lake to another island.Then it stopped half way and went back where it came from.Others on that island also saw it(cabins) and tried to signal us over but we didn't go over.
It made no noise and was a few feet off the water,with a mist all around it that reflected off the water.The UFO was around 150 yards away.
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True, but “angels” and “sons of God” are not necessarily the same thing.
That is the point. There were no angels involved with the Nephilim. Adam was a son of God just like all the other sons of God. When Adam disobeyed God he died physically and spiritually, and was no longer even in an incorruptible son of God physical body. He and Eve were given dead corruptible flesh and blood. Dead as the flesh is now subjected to decay and death because of sin. The sons of God in perfect incorruptible bodies became corrupted with the corruptible flesh of Adam's descendants.

Genesis 6:3-6

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

When God refers to man and human kind created on the 6th Day, He is referring to the sons of God. Adam's flesh was already at enmity with God. It was the spirits of the sons of God that God was striving with. Adam's offspring were corrupting the sons of God.

The results of incorruptible bodies with corruptible bodies were creating giants. Once a believer's soul reaches Paradise, they are given incorruptible bodies. The difference now is that in Paradise, there is no more procreation. Paradise is full of Adam's fallen offspring who are redeemed from the earth. No need to have more babies in Paradise.
 

Dino246

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That is the point. There were no angels involved with the Nephilim. Adam was a son of God just like all the other sons of God. When Adam disobeyed God he died physically and spiritually, and was no longer even in an incorruptible son of God physical body. He and Eve were given dead corruptible flesh and blood. Dead as the flesh is now subjected to decay and death because of sin. The sons of God in perfect incorruptible bodies became corrupted with the corruptible flesh of Adam's descendants.

Genesis 6:3-6

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

When God refers to man and human kind created on the 6th Day, He is referring to the sons of God. Adam's flesh was already at enmity with God. It was the spirits of the sons of God that God was striving with. Adam's offspring were corrupting the sons of God.

The results of incorruptible bodies with corruptible bodies were creating giants. Once a believer's soul reaches Paradise, they are given incorruptible bodies. The difference now is that in Paradise, there is no more procreation. Paradise is full of Adam's fallen offspring who are redeemed from the earth. No need to have more babies in Paradise.
You're talking in circles, and have come around to say nothing at all.
 
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In the OT (as opposed to the NT) only angels are called "sons of God" (meaning direct creations of God). And the book of Job confirms this.
The book of Job confirms the stars and sons of God were two different types of beings created on Day 4 and Day 6. The Angels were created on Day 4. The sons of God were created on Day 6. They all glorified God at the beginning.

Yes a third of the stars were cast out of heaven because they rebelled. They were immediately bound in the pit. They did not pass earth and collect giant offspring. Besides, Revelation claims when they come out of the pit in the 5th Trumpet, they are locust like creatures, not reptilian or human. Revelation 9:1-5

1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

Jude 1:6

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

God only opens up the pit for this time of judgment. Genesis 6 is not about angels at all. It was only about how sin corrupted all of the sons of God. This rebellion on earth brought about the Flood on mankind without any help from Satan or the fallen angels. All Satan had to do was get Eve to fall for his deception. Nature took care of the rest of the fall of all mankind.
 

Mem

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Spiritual man, the highest plane of earthly 'being,' intercourting with carnal women, on the animalistic plane of being (easy, and common), and with as many as they wanted..' rather than honoring God being faithful to one spiritual woman (hard, ruby).

Go in through the narrow gate. The gate to destruction is wide, and the road that leads there is easy to follow. A lot of people go through that gate. -Matt 7:13 CEV
 

cv5

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Dr. Michael Heiser has. I would encourage you to check out his podcast, entitled, "The Naked Bible Podcast", available on YouTube or his web site, drmsh.com.
I watched Heiser for about 10 minutes. Then I dumped him like a hot potato. Absolutely ridiculous rubbish. As if Almighty God requires post exilic Assyrian idols, symbols and motifs to express and identify himself. Utterly preposterous.
 

cv5

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This is what
Jesus said about Angels
Matt 22:30
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
This what Jesus said about resurrected holy saints. Christians given new spiritual bodies. Who have not nor will ever rebel.

Originally created fallen angels on the other hand are completely different matter altogether....