We can on here. This thread is specifically about " The natural man '
or as Calvinists read 'Man without the Holy Spirit '. I see Calvinists are ok with isolated verses used once to mean way more than whats plainly written.
The Natural Man
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or as Calvinists read 'Man without the Holy Spirit '. I see Calvinists are ok with isolated verses used once to mean way more than whats plainly written.
In context..scripture not Calvin.
But people who aren’t spiritual can’t receive these truths from God’s.
It all sounds foolish to them and they can’t understand it,for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means...1 Corinthians 2:14..
The natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God,for they are folly to him,and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
So,through faith,is a natural man a born again? ..from reading your posts you seem to think they are.
Surely I’m mistaken?
But people who aren’t spiritual can’t receive these truths from God’s.
It all sounds foolish to them and they can’t understand it,for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means...1 Corinthians 2:14..
The natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God,for they are folly to him,and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
So,through faith,is a natural man a born again? ..from reading your posts you seem to think they are.
Surely I’m mistaken?
The scripture speaks for itself,the context is there,only imo...you don’t understand it..from what I have read of your posts,..which is ok,ask the Holy Spirit for help on understanding,that is what I do......He will help you,if you truly desire to learn.
After all the Holy Spirit dwells in you,doesn’t He?
Can you interpret the scripture I posted...?..thanks.
@fredoheaven ....Can we discuss 1 Corinthians 2:10-14...or more if you like.
These are the things God has revealed to us by His Spirit.
But,before we discuss,do you believe what is being said?...thanks.
If you do,can I hear your interpretation then I will post mine,on what I believe Is being said.
These are the things God has revealed to us by His Spirit.
But,before we discuss,do you believe what is being said?...thanks.
If you do,can I hear your interpretation then I will post mine,on what I believe Is being said.
Ah,we may have a problem discussing @fredoheaven ....as you don’t know if a natural man is saved or not.
What does it say in the scripture that I posted about the natural man?
What’s your understanding of it?..thanks.
If we stand before God in our own righteousness we will be lost .
Phil 3.9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
Phil 3.9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: