The lying spirit of the Pre-trib Rapture

[BOY]

The lying spirit of the pre-tribulation

I thought I would move this into the title so you don't even have to read the posts you can just see it in the title and it would make more of an impact.

The lying spirit of the Pre-trib Rapture


1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2The same was in the beginning with God.

3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Jesus is the word and if you reject the word you reject Jesus that's the way it's always been did you ever wonder where the Pharisees and Sadducees

went. did you ever wonder about Matthew 24 the beginning of sorrow before the tribulation starts. how that you would be brought before the council, and that whoever killed you would think that he was doing God's service . this is before the tribulation even starts this is the beginning of sorrow. did you ever wonder about those verses it's Bible prophecy that has to come true before the tribulation starts.

i'd like to introduce to you that Pharisees and Sadducees

They are everywhere you've just never seen them because that door has been closed but it looks like the lords about to open the door hopefully. the Pharisees and the Sadducees are right here on this website and right in the Pew sitting next to you at church. and 99% chance that the preacher that's preaching to you on a Sunday is a Pharisee And you just need to know how to open the door to see the Pharisees and Sadducees come to the surface.

They're just like the Pharisees back in the old days but now they're called Christians And their hearts are not right with God but they think their hearts are right with God.

I'm not really going to warn you about the dangers of this as you all have a Bible and you know how it played out, or how it will play out .

Just recently I went to a new church Chit chatting with a group I mentioned I believed we were going to go through the tribulation 3 or 4 of them said yes I believe that then one stood up and said we don't believe that here that was the end of the conversation I went back again and I was told not to talk about it any more . A super sensitive underbelly I heard that church lost three or four members because of that situation I don't know what happened to them. I wasn't prepared for what was going to happen just thought I would share that with you .

If a Christian rejects God's word more than likely he is a Phariseesor Sadducees.

Because Jesus is the word and remember. what Jesus said, few there be that find it .

 

[BOY]

99% Of the churches are not teaching us anything that we need to know, about things to come. they are stuck in a rut, walking back and forward back and forward in the same groove that they've been walking in for years. they're not teaching us anything about what is to come, and what we should expect, and what we should do about it, nothing.


That's because they are stuck in the way they used to do things, they still doing them the way they used to do it. they don't know how to change, they don't know how to adapt, they don't know how to move forward. They're just going through the motions.


But if they would just get desperate the Lord would show them if they were just listen to the nobody's instead of listening to the somebody's they might break free of their rut.


All the Masters and all the teachers and all the preachers and all the pastors are just going through the motions dying on the vine. and unless they start moving forward with the spirit of God they are going to be left behind. They will become Stagnant.


Stop waiting on the Jews to show you the way


Galatians 3:29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

 

[Magenta]

Because Jesus is the word and remember. what Jesus said, few there be that find it .

John 10:9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved

 

[BOY]

Here's a false prophet for you, and not just a false prophet but an idiot. this man has convinced thousands upon thousands of Christians that the Muslims prophecy has merit and the Antichrist is going to be a Muslim That writes a white horse and makes a deal for seven years with Israel. what a horrible man what an idiot. does he not know about Muslim prophecy how it is rubbish, their prophecy is made up, out of thin air, only God can give prophecy and it come true. their profits are liars and dreamers and make up prophecy. but NO he breathes life into their prophecy in thousands upon thousands of Christian minds.

Muslim prophecy is written by man's mind. God's prophecy is inspired by God and written by men inspired by God. Muslims have no power, so why does he insist on breathing life into their prophecy.

Perfect example of a pre tribulation believing Christian. Who walks in the flesh and not the spirit.

 

[Slimsumo]

Here's a false prophet for you, and not just a false prophet but an idiot. this man has convinced thousands upon thousands of Christians that the Muslims prophecy has merit and the Antichrist is going to be a Muslim That writes a white horse and makes a deal for seven years with Israel. what a horrible man what an idiot. does he not know about Muslim prophecy how it is rubbish, their prophecy is made up, out of thin air, only God can give prophecy and it come true. their profits are liars and dreamers and make up prophecy. but NO he breathes life into their prophecy in thousands upon thousands of Christian minds.

Muslim prophecy is written by man's mind. God's prophecy is inspired by God and written by men inspired by God. Muslims have no power, so why does he insist on breathing life into their prophecy.

Perfect example of a pre tribulation believing Christian. Who walks in the flesh and not the spirit.

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I believe the antichrist will be islamic not because of John MacArthur or islamic writings but because of the Bible.

Islam conquered all the areas including the city of Babylon in the statue of Daniel. They are the only religion in the world that actively denies both the Father and the Son and are the only religion in town that still likes to decapitate people. They are also the surrounding nations of Jerusalem, which we know will be key players in the end times. There is just no way the roman catholics are going to do another crusade to the holy land, they are weak and liberal and hardly any devout roman catholics are left. They are on their way out, whereas Islam is on the rise, and fast.

I also believe that prophecy tends to be middle-east centric, instead of euro-centric. All of the bible prophecies are always about things relating to the middle-east and the surrounding areas. That is why when the bible talks about 'the north' it is not referring to Russia or Iceland, its referring to the areas today known as Turkey.

As evil as the popes have been, I have never heard a pope deny Jesus is the son of God, muslims do it daily.

This is my humble opinion.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Islam conquered all the areas including the city of Babylon in the statue of Daniel.

This is irrelevent. Ancient Babylon was destroyed forever as prophecy predicted. The end-time Babylon will be in the spirit of Babylon, just as the prophesied return of Elijah the prophet was fulfilled by John the baptist coming in the spirit of Elijah. Look for who/what controls the world. The Arabs/Persians certainly do not, nor could they ever.

 

[JohnnyValentine]

Here's a false prophet for you, and not just a false prophet but an idiot. this man has convinced thousands upon thousands of Christians that the Muslims prophecy has merit.

Muslim prophecy is written by man's mind. God's prophecy is inspired by God and written by men inspired by God. Muslims have no power, so why does he insist on breathing life into their prophecy.

You should be careful about calling people false prophets and making accusations, especially ones that are followed up with insults and belittling.

The bible makes multiple references that are in the Quran, albeit a little twisted and distorted from what the Bible says.

Don't forget that God sent Moses unto Pharoah with plagues and miracles, and his advisors were able to duplicate them, Moses had a staff that God turned into a snake and the pharaohs advisors did the exact same thing but made 2 snakes in turn.

God is the ultimate power in this world but he isn't the only power. If you believe the Devil and his angels don't have the knowledge to distort and pervert the Gospel in another religion or belief system that is also built off of truths but perverted with lies to lead a person astray then you're fooling yourself.

Islam is the 2nd largest Religion in the world for a reason, and one day it will become the largest. Don't make the mistake of disregarding it as made-up fairytales.

If you research it a bit and pay attention you can clearly see that it mimics Christianity in a lot of ways but distorts the truth. There's a reason for that.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

John 10:9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved

This is so pretty!



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[ResidentAlien]

Here's a false prophet for you, and not just a false prophet but an idiot. this man has convinced thousands upon thousands of Christians that the Muslims prophecy has merit and the Antichrist is going to be a Muslim That writes a white horse and makes a deal for seven years with Israel. what a horrible man what an idiot. does he not know about Muslim prophecy how it is rubbish, their prophecy is made up, out of thin air, only God can give prophecy and it come true. their profits are liars and dreamers and make up prophecy. but NO he breathes life into their prophecy in thousands upon thousands of Christian minds.

Muslim prophecy is written by man's mind. God's prophecy is inspired by God and written by men inspired by God. Muslims have no power, so why does he insist on breathing life into their prophecy.

Perfect example of a pre tribulation believing Christian. Who walks in the flesh and not the spirit.

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Are you saying the source of John MacArthur's belief that the Antichrist will be a Muslim comes from a Muslim prophecy? If so, can you provide a primary source that supports this claim?

 

[Slimsumo]

This is irrelevent. Ancient Babylon was destroyed forever as prophecy predicted. The end-time Babylon will be in the spirit of Babylon, just as the prophesied return of Elijah the prophet was fulfilled by John the baptist coming in the spirit of Elijah. Look for who/what controls the world. The Arabs/Persians certainly do not, nor could they ever.

I don't see the vatican running anything. The muslims have way more influence, they run all of the biblical world (middle-east, north africa) and hold power in Europe as well, as they are the fastest growing group there.
If you are american you can probably not see it because there are so few of them there.

It is the untouchable group in Europe, you cannot critique them, they are even above sodomites on the victim scale.

 

[Aaron56]

Are you saying the source of John MacArthur's belief that the Antichrist will be a Muslim comes from a Muslim prophecy? If so, can you provide a primary source that supports this claim?

This is a fairly comprehensive writing comparing the Muslim Messiah ("Mahdi") with the Biblical Anti-Christ at the end of the age.

https://answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/ch05_comparing_the_biblical_antichrist.htm

To be sure I am not endorsing all of his eschatological ideas just the timing of the figures in the Biblical account compared to those in the Islamic writings.

In short: in the Biblical timeline at the end of the Age, the Anti-Christ establishes his rule in the earth and then is overthrown at the time of Christ's return. According to Islam, their "Mahdi" comes first, is later challenged by the evil one, Dajjal, and is victorious over the Dajjal and his followers. So, the arrival of the Biblical Antichrist coincides with the arrival of the Islamic "Messiah".

 

[Edify]

@ Boy,
You call people idiots, dreamers, liars. No empathy, no mercy, no grace to people confused & in unbelief.
WHY should anyone bother with you when you're not concerned with the things that MATTER?

 

[BOY]

@ Boy,
You call people idiots, dreamers, liars. No empathy, no mercy, no grace to people confused & in unbelief.
WHY should anyone bother with you when you're not concerned with the things that MATTER?

Another lying spirit. I showed plenty of of empathy and mercy. I even left bits out of the Bible verse that was a bit harsh. and if I didn't love you I wouldn't bother talking to you or any of you.
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

 

[BOY]

Watch out that you don't become a Pharisee or a Sadducee.

First you need to be a Christian then that Christian rejects Jesus and Jesus being the word. Then suddenly you become a Pharisee or a Sadducee.

Continuing to play the Christian role, but you Hardoned your heart against the Lord and dying on the vine. your little lamp getting a dimmer and dimmer. But still looking like a Christian exactly the same as you were before playing the role going through the motions. that's how you become a Pharisee or a Sadducees today.

Just like the Pharisees or Sadducee of old, they rejected Jesus the word.

Where do you think they have been hiding they haven't been hiding they've just been on the back burner waiting for someone to turn up the heat and they have to come to the surface because prophecy needs to be fulfilled. Math 24 mark 13

It's getting so dark now that the pre tribulation leaders their candle only shows you a few inches of light if that.

Pre Tribulation beleaving Christians are going to need a bigger lamp And more oil

 

[wolfwint]

Watch out that you don't become a Pharisee or a Sadducee.

First you need to be a Christian then that Christian rejects Jesus and Jesus being the word. Then suddenly you become a Pharisee or a Sadducee.

Continuing to play the Christian role, but you Hardoned your heart against the Lord and dying on the vine. your little lamp getting a dimmer and dimmer. But still looking like a Christian exactly the same as you were before playing the role going through the motions. that's how you become a Pharisee or a Sadducees today.

Just like the Pharisees or Sadducee of old, they rejected Jesus the word.

Where do you think they have been hiding they haven't been hiding they've just been on the back burner waiting for someone to turn up the heat and they have to come to the surface because prophecy needs to be fulfilled. Math 24 mark 13

It's getting so dark now that the pre tribulation leaders their candle only shows you a few inches of light if that.

Pre Tribulation beleaving Christians are going to need a bigger lamp And more oil


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Well, we will see.

 

[Blain]

Another lying spirit. I showed plenty of of empathy and mercy. I even left bits out of the Bible verse that was a bit harsh. and if I didn't love you I wouldn't bother talking to you or any of you.
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

You know maybe calling people names isn't the best way to reach people, if there is one thing I know about @Edify is that they are not a lying spirit now there is a spirit you are projecting and it isn't the holy one

Who is known as the accuser God or satan? who name calls and acts self righteous God or satan? you speak as if anyone who you deem not of God is absolute and granted I have not read many of your posts but boy howdy from the few I have seen you do not show the fruits of the holy spirit be careful that you are not a self fulfilling prophecy

Also as far the lying spirit of the pre trib rapture I wouldn't call anyone who believes in it or teaches it a lying spirit maybe confused or something but lying no. personally I don't abide by name calling in general