The Law

[H3n0515]

I also am not circumcised because torture is bad

 

[H3n0515]

when you got the spirit in 2012 how do you know which spirit it was?
1Jn_4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1Ti_4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

do you think the king of deception will come to you and admit that he wants to lead you astray?

If the Spirit came to you and convicted you to obey the 10 commandments would that mean it is an evil spirit or Gods Spirit?

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Now recall I said John 17:20-26

This is my evidence of Jesus.

Because of this I know Jesus was.

I have no other evidence for Jesus.

I say he came in the flesh because he is in this flesh.

 

[TMS]

i am not a Jew, i am saved by faith not by my heritage.

 

[Evmur]

Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

What works have you done that saved you?

 

[H3n0515]

i am not a Jew, i am saved by faith not by my heritage.

Have you experienced oneness?

Such exhilaration that every cell in present experience seems to be vibrating with such bliss for you... not just your form but every...

It is not something you can miss, Galatians 3:28 got me there...

If all is made one in Christ, can you transcend all pairs?

Yes, yes you can...

 

[H3n0515]

In the experience everything is light...

Everything glows...

It is beautiful

I always thought light was intended metaphorically...

Nope.

 

[TMS]

the more i look at Jesus and His righteousness the more sinful i see myself, my need for Him grow stronger and His grace becomes more valuable. i will never be good enough but praise God, Jesus was. The law is not our enemy, it just reveals unrighteousness and our need of Jesus. I acknowledge the law because i want to be more like Jesus who kept the law perfectly. i will never be able to obey it in my strength but by promise Jesus said He will work in me to do His good will.

Your will be done Lord not mine.

 

[gb9]

i also believe the bible does not contradict itself.

There is commandments and laws mentioned that refer to the whole lot but sometimes the law is the schoolmaster (Gal 3) which is the law of ordinance given because of Israel's needed to understand Christ and Salvation. What are the laws James talks about in chap 2, what are the commandments in Rev? What are the laws Jesus was talking about in Matt 5:17? No law will save us but the law of liberty is still there to reveal sin.

2Jn 1:4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father.
2Jn 1:5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
2Jn 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

and what did John say the commands were?

to believe on the name of the Son and love one another. ( 1st John chapter 3).

you legalists and judeaizers love to point to John for Law keeping, yet you always fail to point out what he said the commands are.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

if you throw out the law and believe that no law exists today you will be like Paul ... not now what sin is.

Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Rom 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Rom 7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

paul is stating a fact.

The law condemned him. It showed his sin. Hence it led him to Christ. As a tutor. it kept him for the faith until Christ came

Once Christ entered, he had no further need of a tutor.

If you lookin gto the law to find out HOW to be a rightious person. Your looking to the wrong thing. It was not made for that purpose (gal 3)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

God does not contradict Himself and the bible was given by God.
Galations has its place but is not the whole Bible.

Yet galation has to agree with all of scripture. Or else it is not scripture

Paul cant contradict the rest of scripture.

WHat Paul did was bring the whole of the word together.

what was the purpose of the law........

read galation for facts!

 

[crossnote]

John and Jesus call it Moses law, but it is only to make easier to remember, but if we read ot how the law origins, we know God talk to Moses and Moses only follow what He say

Technically the law came through Moses from God.
The Gospel came in through Jesus who was God in the flesh.

 

[crossnote]

Jesus save us, but He not save without His rule

His rule is john3:16

Whosoever believe

Believe Him mean believe His teaching, His teaching is to Love God and fellow man

Do you believe you save if you hate God?
You may believe so, but not what Jesus say

I believe you have that backwards.
We are not saved because we love God, rather we love God because we are saved.

Jn 3:16 follows on the heels of …

John 3:14-15 KJV
[14] And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: [15] That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

It has nothing to do with keeping the law, such as love God and fellow man. Actually it’s the opposite, it’s when we see we fail at loving God and men as we should, then we see we need a Savior who is offered to us in Jesus Christ.

 

[Blik]

and what did John say the commands were?

to believe on the name of the Son and love one another. ( 1st John chapter 3).

you legalists and judeaizers love to point to John for Law keeping, yet you always fail to point out what he said the commands are.

I wish there was a law to protect people who believe in obeying and working for the Lord.

People who are against God and His ways throw legalists and judeaizers at them. A legalizer is one who obeys the letter of the law but ignors the spirit of the law, and it is not one who tries their best to obey the law and follow Jesus. A judeaizer is one who uses the rites given to the Jews to help them know the true law as fulfilling the spirit of the law.

These terms are used in order to disobey the Lord when the Lord tells us not to accuse and not to so much as call people "you fool".

 

[gb9]

i am not speaking against working and obeying the Lord.

i just pointed out that John said in his first letter that the Commands were to " believe in the name of the Son and love one another".

 

[crossnote]

I wish there was a law to protect people who believe in obeying and working for the Lord.

People who are against God and His ways throw legalists and judeaizers at them. A legalizer is one who obeys the letter of the law but ignors the spirit of the law, and it is not one who tries their best to obey the law and follow Jesus. A judeaizer is one who uses the rites given to the Jews to help them know the true law as fulfilling the spirit of the law.

These terms are used in order to disobey the Lord when the Lord tells us not to accuse and not to so much as call people "you fool".

I agree, I wouldn't call them Judaizers, just misguided in the matter of faith. They are too busy trying to live pious lives that they won't lay down their own lives for the Gospel so that others may hear and be saved.

 

[Jackson123]

Technically the law came through Moses from God.
The Gospel came in through Jesus who was God in the flesh.

So both from God, not moses

 

[crossnote]

So both from God, not moses

Yes, both from God but each has its own purpose.

 

[Jackson123]

It has nothing to do with keeping the law, such as love God and fellow man. Actually it’s the opposite, it’s when we see we fail at loving God and men as we should, then we see we need a Savior who is offered to us in Jesus Christ.

Luke 10
25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”
27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[c]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]”
28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”

It seem Jesus teach to inherit eternal life one must love God as much as he can and love fellow men

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I wish there was a law to protect people who believe in obeying and working for the Lord.

People who are against God and His ways throw legalists and judeaizers at them. A legalizer is one who obeys the letter of the law but ignors the spirit of the law, and it is not one who tries their best to obey the law and follow Jesus. A judeaizer is one who uses the rites given to the Jews to help them know the true law as fulfilling the spirit of the law.

These terms are used in order to disobey the Lord when the Lord tells us not to accuse and not to so much as call people "you fool".

If the term fits the term fits.

your preaching we obey by following the law, something thenlaw was not intended for,

that is phariseeism, even if you claim your u do not think you are saved by that, you still insist that we follow the tutor after the tutor has been set freel

and then you throw in we hate obedience, which is a lie,

it’s amazing in the fact you break one of the commands continually. Yet profess we must follow the commands.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Luke 10
25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”
27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[c]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]”
28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”

It seem Jesus teach to inherit eternal life one must love God as much as he can and love fellow men

Are you perfect at this? Is anyone?