The King James Bible

[hornetguy]

The niv is nutty fruitcake nonsense. It isn't God's holy bible at all.

Comments like that push you closer and closer to "psychotic twit" status. You are simply throwing stuff up against the wall to see what sticks.

You are being most unreasonable.

 

[Chester]

straightforward comparison of the modern bibles to the Holy Bible.

There is your trouble: Please compare the modern Bibles and the KJV both to the original words that God gave to the writers.
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The logical conclusion of your method is that the KJV text is the standard - thus it is inspired by God - in the year 1611 - and this is blatant heresy!

Inspiration ended after the giving of the NT books by God to the writers.

(I am assuming by "Holy Bible" you meant the KJV. If am mistaken, I take back what I say here!)

 

[Magenta]

Which is why opinion is useless in establishing truth and is a waste of time hearing about.

Thank you for sharing your opinion

 

[Joseppi]

Two fallacies in two lines... would you like to try for a hat trick next time?

The first is a false dichotomy, and the second involves a missing standard. Simply comparing one to the other only highlights differences, but can never determine which is correct. The KJV is not the standard of accuracy and completeness.

Why post nothing in particular?

 

[Joseppi]

I would say that Jesus is the Word of God, manifested in human form. God "spoke" the world into existence.... the word tells us that nothing was created that Jesus did not create.

True.
But that has nothing to do with the blasphemes I pointed out are evident in the niv rendering of the Philipians 2 quote.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You can babble and accuse and whatever, but, I have said that the way a reader knows that the modern versions are perversions of truth is by straightforward comparison of the modern bibles to the Holy Bible.

The modern version lovers try to defend their perverted bibles by presenting their useless personal opinions, cartoons, gaffs and any other silly, googled tacticthey can use to avoid any real comparison of their cultic bibles.

What you aren't noticing is that you don't understand what I have said. And are wanting me to defend your version of what you think or wish I said.

I am aimed at exposing the corruption in modern bibles. I'm not on thread to discuss philosophical ideas people have about theological questions.

Lol..

1. The KJV is a modern version.
2. I am not arguing versions,. I am discussing who Jesu was.
3. You want to keep arguing versions. I want to discuss who Jesus was.

What do you want to talk about?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I would say that Jesus is the Word of God, manifested in human form. God "spoke" the world into existence.... the word tells us that nothing was created that Jesus did not create.

So if God created the heavens and the earth, And jesus created the heaven and the earth.

then using basic math

jesus is God.

Amen.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

For the record. I happen to think the KJV is much better than the NIV, the NIV (next to the NLT) would be the last bible version I would use.

 

[MichaelOwen]

So if God created the heavens and the earth, And jesus created the heaven and the earth.

then using basic math

jesus is God.

Amen.

Jesus told his disciples, that if they knew Him, then they knew the Father, and that if they had seen Him, they had seen the Father. Philippians 2:6, "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
Jesus was the Father in fleshly form, at least that's what I gather from his holy inspired word

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Jesus told his disciples, that if they knew Him, then they knew the Father, and that if they had seen Him, they had seen the Father. Philippians 2:6, "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
Jesus was the Father in fleshly form, at least that's what I gather from his holy inspired word

I do not think he was the father in fleshly form. I think he is the son.

When he said we see the farther through him, He meant when we see the way he is, the way he acted, the love he gave, We have seen what type of person the father is.

Just like when people see us, they should see the son through us..

 

[trofimus]

Jesus told his disciples, that if they knew Him, then they knew the Father, and that if they had seen Him, they had seen the Father. Philippians 2:6, "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
Jesus was the Father in fleshly form, at least that's what I gather from his holy inspired word

Jesus is NOT Father. Another strange idea originated in the KJV ...

Please, read NIV instead.

 

[Musicus]

Seems the KJV and the NIV agree;

John 1:1 KJV
In the beginning was the Word [Jesus], and the Word [Jesus] was with God, and the Word [Jesus] was God.

John 1:14 KJV
And the Word [Jesus] was made flesh and dwelt among us. (and we beheld his [Jesus] glory, the glory as of the only begotten [Jesus] of the Father), full of grace and truth.

John 1:1 NIV
In the beginning was the Word [Jesus], and the Word [Jesus] was with God, and the Word [Jesus] was God.

John 1:14 NIV
The Word [Jesus] became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his [Jesus] glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

 

[hornetguy]

True.
But that has nothing to do with the blasphemes I pointed out are evident in the niv rendering of the Philipians 2 quote.

And ANYONE with a shred of common sense could not read that passage and see anything remotely blasphemous about it.

IT SAYS THE SAME THING AS THE KJV.... by your own admission, the KJV changed words to bring them up to more "modern" status, just as the NIV brought the phrase "in the form of" up to a modern phrase of "Who, being in very nature[SUP][a][/SUP] God,".....

You would have to be either a mental midget, or a person bent on being obstinate about their worshipped translation of the Bible to see any kind of "difference" in those two translations.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

John 14:9 (NIV)

[FONT=&quot]9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

(KJV)

[/FONT] 9[FONT=&quot]Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?[/FONT]

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Well maybe your synopsis of scripture is "the message" some posters suggest is all one needs to be approved of God.
I think what you have presented above is a dumped down personal message that modern bible readers will find comforting.
However, it doesn't line up with any notion that you have studied much.

I reject and criticize what I consider a dummed down, casual, approach to scripture that suggests that whatever any one reads as scripture is, ok.
I see you name yourself Studyman, and I can't reconcile that name with any thing goes approach to modern versions that disagree among themselves, create confusion, promote false doctrines and many other ills evident in todays churches.

Keep trying. The word is Dumb. Dumbed-down

 

[Dino246]

Why post nothing in particular?

No comment.

No comment.

No comment.

 

[Deade]

I do not think he was the father in fleshly form. I think he is the son.

When he said we see the farther through him, He meant when we see the way he is, the way he acted, the love he gave, We have seen what type of person the father is.

Just like when people see us, they should see the son through us..

You got that right EG, Jesus was showing us the character of The Father. If we were to behold His glory, we wouldn't need faith to follow Him: we would reel art His power.

 

[DiscipleDave]

... . .. . .. Thank GOD for better more accurate modern versions!!!!

IN saying that, you are saying the Word of God that our Brothers and Sisters used for over 400 years is inaccurate? Is that what you are saying is that the Word of God used by our Brothers and Sisters to get Saved, was inaccurate?

Leave it to the last days generation to come to the conclusion that the Word of God is inaccurate and needed an update. For over 400 years there was ONLY ONE Word of God for the English speaking people of the world. leave it to the last days generation to create hundreds of other versions of the Bible, and then claim they are better.
Who is the author of confusion? For over 400 years there was absolutely NO confusion whatsoever what was considered the Word of God. Then in the last days, because men deemed that Word of God to be inaccurate, in need of updating, correcting, fixing, interpreting, and now we have hundreds of different versions which most certainly causes all kinds of confusion, and this generation thinks that is a good thing? Again, who is the author of confusion? And how could this confusion have been prevented? i will tell you, if that last days generation did not take it upon themselves to try to correct the version that has been known as the Word of God for over FOUR HUNDRED YEARS, that is how. But it is what it is and satan is the god of this world, therefore Confusion will reign.

Are other version evil. No. Any version that can bring a person to Jesus Christ is not evil. Are other versions the Word of God? No. What then could i get 50 scholars together and come up with the DiscipleDave version and then have people call that version the Word of God? God forbid. So just because a group of people got together and created another version does not make that version the Word of God, now does it? But those who are blind will remain blind and those who can see will see.

Yeah, let us go to other versions because we do not understand the KJV. Doesn't the Holy Ghost teach us and lead us into Truths. Could the Holy Spirit of TRUTH help a person to understand all TRUTHS via the KJV? Yes the Holy Ghost can do that. But not so with this generation, they desire to come up with TRUTHs some other way, namely through the use of reading other versions of the Bible based on what a group of men think the Bible should say.

When i was 12 years old, i had read the entire Bible front to back three times. i sat on my bed one day and cried to my God, saying "Why God did you make Your Word so difficult for me to understand, this verse says you can, this verse says you can't, there are many contradictions, i am Your child, why did you make it so hard to understand for me? i will read it again, help me God to understand, amen"
It wasn't until reading the whole Bible the fourth time, that the Holy Spirit started opening up the Word of God to me. The KJV is written by God in such a way to weed out those who do not have a True desire to learn His Word. If a person reads it and it is way to confusing and they do not pick it up again and read it over and over and over again, then that person does not have a True desire to learn it now does he/she? The KJV was made that way ON PURPOSE. The Holy Spirit of God will only start teaching a person TRUTHS of Scriptures when they have a TRUE desire to learn it. Those who pick up the KJV to never pick it up again, will not be taught by the Holy Ghost the TRUTHS that are contained therein. But was do the last days generation do? Instead of rereading and rereading, they put down the KJV Bible, and seek another way via OTHER translations that of a Truth come from men, which have removed the step to weed out people who do not have a TRUE desire to learn the Word of God.

The KJV is the Word of God. Other versions which are not evil, or indeed the interpretations of the words of men.
What? Do you think God ordained OTHER versions, that God would agree with other versions of His Word?
God made sure that the KJV was written exactly as He saw fit, He was there to ensure it was written EXACTLY as He wanted it to be written. Now do you think in the last days God wants people to rewrite what He wrote, because now HIS version is considered by the last days generation to be inaccurate, or in need of an update? God forbid. if the Word of God needs an update, or needs to be corrected, As if God could not write a version to last till the end of time. No leave it to the last days generation to think the Word of God needs to be BETTER, updated, or corrected. So then these last days people get all the Bible Scholars (learned) to come up with a BETTER version of the Word of God that God ordained Himself.

As i have said over and over again, any version that can bring a person to the Lord is not a bad version, even the ghetto version is not a bad version if it can reach those in the ghetto to accept Jesus Christ. But the Word of God is, and has always been for the English speaking people of the World, the KJV. To call a version that men come up with during the last days generation the Word of God, is actually spitting in the face of God who already had a His version here for over 400 years. Buy just like versions, people of the last days generation are unwilling to give up their false doctrines. If they believe the NIV is the Word of God, there is no convincing them otherwise, because they are of the last days generation, fit for destruction because of the false doctrines they are unwilling to get rid of, even though they claim they are on the straight and narrow, and claimed to be Saved, Claimed to be Righteous, claim to be Holy, claim to be under His Blood, claim OSAS. And there are no amount of verses in the Bible that can reveal to them they are wrong. These same will hold on to OSAS even though there are verses that plainly teach a persons name, after being written in the Book of Life, can be blotted out. That in and of itself should teach them that OSAS can't possibly be TRUE, yet what do we see? We see them ignoring every verse that proves OSAS can't be True, and for what, so they do not have to give up the false doctrines that give them security in what they falsely believe to be true.

KJV is the Word of God
Other versions are interpretations of groups of men.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[star]

I believe in God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Praise Him

 

[preacher4truth]

IN saying that, you are saying the Word of God that our Brothers and Sisters used for over 400 years is inaccurate? Is that what you are saying is that the Word of God used by our Brothers and Sisters to get Saved, was inaccurate?

No, I said the Modern Versions are more accurate. Get your facts straight and learn to comprehend what was spoken prior to making a KJVO retort.

No one has gotten saved due to the Bible version they heard the Gospel from.