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I don't see the connection between Yahweh and Yahshua and the descriptionof the four creatures.
Ezekiel 1:3 The word of YHWH came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of YHVH was there upon him.
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It states "the word of YHWH", as in a representation, not as in this is a description of Yahweh. Other verses describe wings, straight feet with the soles of calves and sparkled like burnish brass.
Ezekiel 1:3 The word of YHWH came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of YHVH was there upon him.
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rnkjv.bible.rnkjvbible.biblernkjv
It states "the word of YHWH", as in a representation, not as in this is a description of Yahweh. Other verses describe wings, straight feet with the soles of calves and sparkled like burnish brass.
Is not being a messianic Jew mean you believe Jesus is God?
Does not Jesus being the Messiah.. mean He is God?
If not.. how is He the Messiah.. but not God?
This sentence is totally false.
From Dictionary.com
What does persona mean? A persona is the image or personality that a person presents in public or in a specific setting—as opposed to their true self. The word is especially used in the phrase public persona, referring to the personality that a person presents in public and that they are known for by most people.
God doesn't have 3 personas, for that would be hypocritical.
God is 3 distinct persons with 100% unified purpose, thus 3 in 1.
This is not to cause you insult or injury, just to help you to see that you may have misused 'persona.'
Persona is just the Greek term behind the person's word. I don't like person's because it makes me think of 3 separate beings. It's really the same thing.
Just something for myself to get it
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The Word exists simultaneously as the eternal spirit being of John 1:1 and
the temporal material being of John 1:14. So if you add The Father + The
Spirit + the plurality of the Word; it comes out to four.
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The Word exists simultaneously as the eternal spirit being of John 1:1 and
the temporal material being of John 1:14. So if you add The Father + The
Spirit + the plurality of the Word; it comes out to four.
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I am not Messianic.
Yahweh is an Elohim. Yahshua is his Son. The 2 are not one.
It is a hiarchy, just as in royalty you have a King and his son is a prince. The prince is not the King. The prince represents the King and even performs duties in the Kings name, 2 separate people. The same wirh Yahweh and Yahshua, Father and Son.
Yahweh is an Elohim. Yahshua is his Son. The 2 are not one.
It is a hiarchy, just as in royalty you have a King and his son is a prince. The prince is not the King. The prince represents the King and even performs duties in the Kings name, 2 separate people. The same wirh Yahweh and Yahshua, Father and Son.
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It depends on your belief.
I do not believe in the trinity the ministery I belong to does not either(I use to, as I was born and raised Catholic, even went to a Catholic school)
I pray to the Father through the Son. All of Paul's greattings in the New Testament include the Father and the Son, none state the Holy Spirit.
We believe the Holy Spirit is the power of Yahweh, Pentacost is a great example of this as well as Mary getting pregnant by the Holy Spirit.(otherwise Yahweh would not be Yashua's Father)
The bible(we use the kjv) does not support a trinity belief.
There is one bible verse, in the New Testament that claims the 3 are one. That is an added verse, actually was not included in the first translation.
The bible tells us that the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Could this be, if you are denying the power of the Holy Spirit, you are denying Yahweh, and if you are denying Yahweh, then you are denying Yashua also?
The commandments & bible tell us to believe in One Elohim(g-d). To pray/belive in no others.
Do your research and decide for yourself. Blessings to you on your journey
I do not believe in the trinity the ministery I belong to does not either(I use to, as I was born and raised Catholic, even went to a Catholic school)
I pray to the Father through the Son. All of Paul's greattings in the New Testament include the Father and the Son, none state the Holy Spirit.
We believe the Holy Spirit is the power of Yahweh, Pentacost is a great example of this as well as Mary getting pregnant by the Holy Spirit.(otherwise Yahweh would not be Yashua's Father)
The bible(we use the kjv) does not support a trinity belief.
There is one bible verse, in the New Testament that claims the 3 are one. That is an added verse, actually was not included in the first translation.
The bible tells us that the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Could this be, if you are denying the power of the Holy Spirit, you are denying Yahweh, and if you are denying Yahweh, then you are denying Yashua also?
The commandments & bible tell us to believe in One Elohim(g-d). To pray/belive in no others.
Do your research and decide for yourself. Blessings to you on your journey
Even though I believe scripture makes it clear there is a distinction and an authority in the Godhead, Jesus (or Yeshua) is called God a couple different places. Elohim is plural. Jesus said he is one with the Father. I see different ditches people can fall into with this subject when we don't just take what the bible says and don't add or take away. Also, it is called a mystery.
Thank you. You show you do read all of the Word.
Well, Jesus claimed to be existing before Abraham. 'Before Abraham was, I AM' That's a big pointer that He is fully God.
The next is that He accepted worship. Not just from people like a servant to a king.. but from angels. That's also a big pointer. He accepted worship also from Thomas, who called Him his God.
The next is that He forgives sin of those who have not directly offended Him. So, a normal person.. could forgive someone who they are offended by or has hurt them..
But Jesus can come along-- as a 3rd being and say to the person offended.... 'I forgive you'
That's having power over sin, to forgive it in another person. That's God's power.
The next is Jesus, in Revelation is given the same terms for the Father. The 'Alpha, Omega, first and last'
I could go on and on. It's all through the bible. Even in the Old Testament with shadows and types of Him plus the prophecies.
'Emmanuel, God with us'
op: The Holy Trinity?
160 Scriptural Reasons 'The LORD Jesus Christ Is God Almighty'!
Yes, you surely could:
160 Scriptural Reasons 'The LORD Jesus Christ Is God Almighty'!
It is a collage .. Thank you!
I can do chalk pastel painting, and like doing colour pencil drawing of lions, tigers and birds.
Depends on how you believe. Many instances when Yashua was representing the Father, this was one of them. He states, "if you have seen me, you have seen the Father."
I look so much like my mother that people have said I could pass for her. Does that mean I am her? No, I represent what she looked like.
Yashua constantly states the Father is the authority.
Yashua did exist before Abraham, but the bible tells us that Yahweh always existed, not Yashua.
Of course he forgives sin, by the author His Father Yahweh.
Matthew 28:18 ...All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth.
"Given to me", not that as the Father I have that power
Questions
If they are the the same one;
1. Why does Yashua say only the Father knows when the end is ?
2. Is Yahweh not really His father as He was conceived by the Holy Spirit?
3. Yashua was praying to Himself in the garden when he asked if this cup could be passed by Him?
4. When dying on the cross and he cried, "my Elohim my Elohim why have you forsaken me?" He was talking to Himself?
5.If They are the same, then Yashua raised Himself from the dead? Then if He did, He didn't really die as a dead person cannot raise Himself.
As for Thomas, He did not accept or rebuke him. Saying He did, is just your interpretation of it. He did say, you believe because you have seen, blessed are they who believe and have not seen.
John 20:31 - But these are written, that ye might believe that Yashua is the Messiah, the Son of Yahweh; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
More verses that states Yashua is the Son of Yahweh.
Mark 1:1
Matthew 16:17
Acts3:13
John 6:68
I look so much like my mother that people have said I could pass for her. Does that mean I am her? No, I represent what she looked like.
Yashua constantly states the Father is the authority.
Yashua did exist before Abraham, but the bible tells us that Yahweh always existed, not Yashua.
Of course he forgives sin, by the author His Father Yahweh.
Matthew 28:18 ...All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth.
"Given to me", not that as the Father I have that power
Questions
If they are the the same one;
1. Why does Yashua say only the Father knows when the end is ?
2. Is Yahweh not really His father as He was conceived by the Holy Spirit?
3. Yashua was praying to Himself in the garden when he asked if this cup could be passed by Him?
4. When dying on the cross and he cried, "my Elohim my Elohim why have you forsaken me?" He was talking to Himself?
5.If They are the same, then Yashua raised Himself from the dead? Then if He did, He didn't really die as a dead person cannot raise Himself.
As for Thomas, He did not accept or rebuke him. Saying He did, is just your interpretation of it. He did say, you believe because you have seen, blessed are they who believe and have not seen.
John 20:31 - But these are written, that ye might believe that Yashua is the Messiah, the Son of Yahweh; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
More verses that states Yashua is the Son of Yahweh.
Mark 1:1
Matthew 16:17
Acts3:13
John 6:68