The Holy Spirit and Salvation !

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All Three Beings of the One Godhead took part in the Salvation of the Elect, from its Eternal Purpose to its actual application of each vessel of mercy. Now it is the Covenant Work of God the Holy Spirit to make known to God's Elect, their Salvation to their consciousness. Thats being Justified by the Spirit of God as stated in 1 Cor 6:11

11And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Here Paul tells these believers that they were Justified in the Name of the Lord !

What does Paul mean by they were sanctified and Justified in the Name of the Lord ? The word Name means everything that Person represents, so they had been Sanctified and Justified by the Person and Work of Jesus Christ. They were Justified by His Blood Rom 5:9

9Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

They were made Righteous by His Obedience Rom 5:19


19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

They were Sanctified by His Offering of Himself for them Heb 10:10

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

This simply means, they were set apart unto the Holy Purpose of God by Christ Death or Blood !

Now this being the case, they must be Sanctified experimentally, this is the Work of God the Holy Spirit 2 Thess 2:13


13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

This Sanctifying Work follows behind the Person and Work of Jesus Christ as it is stated in 1 Cor 6:11

The Spirit of God in His Justification of us, He reveals in us and to us what Christ has done for us by His work of the Cross. He lets us in on it Eph 1:9

Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

The Elect know nothing of their Salvation in Christ until it is made known unto them by the Spirit of God.

He reveals unto the consciousness of all those Christ died for that they are Truly Children of God Rom 8:16

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: or the Children of Promise:

Rom 9:8

That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Now it is through this Work of the Spirit that the Elect become Believers, through this Covenant Work of His, God the Holy Spirit !
Yes, the triune God relates to saved humanity as the Holy Spirit.

While I appreciate Paul's bookending of Adam and Christ, interpreting RM 5:19 (For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous) is problematic for a few reasons:

1. Adam and Eve sinned together.
2. "Many" presumably means all, but saying all will be saved does not jibe with judgment.
3. "Made sinners" does not jibe with biblical teaching that each soul is accountable for their own sin.
4. "Made righteous" may jibe with being credited as righteous through faith but not with being forced to do right.

Right?
 

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Yes, the triune God relates to saved humanity as the Holy Spirit.

While I appreciate Paul's bookending of Adam and Christ, interpreting RM 5:19 (For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous) is problematic for a few reasons:

1. Adam and Eve sinned together.
2. "Many" presumably means all, but saying all will be saved does not jibe with judgment.
3. "Made sinners" does not jibe with biblical teaching that each soul is accountable for their own sin.
4. "Made righteous" may jibe with being credited as righteous through faith but not with being forced to do right.

Right?
You sound confusing to me
 

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I agree with what you have posted, but I just want to add that I understand communicating is tricky, so that it is difficult to state a whole truth and nothing but the truth in one succinct post--or even in a few long ones!

And this is true of Scripture, which treats topics piecemeal: some here, some there, but I try to bypass as much verbiage as possible regarding the topic of election and sovereignty by saying that the crucial choice regarding what to believe about free will is between universalism and blasphemy (attributing unrighteous hate to God). I err on the side of believing GW teaches that God is omniloving (1TM2:3-4, JN 3:16, etc.), but souls may reject rather than reflect His love/grace.

IOW, Jesus, Paul and John define divine righteousness most succinctly as love for all (MT 5:44&48, 22:37-40, 1TM 2:3-4, 1JN 4:8).
I reject your premise when you say "attributing unrighteous hate to God". This comes from a place of a "disconnected from reality" starting point. You make it sound like all people are born on an even playing field and it's up to us to choose up or down. This isn't true in any sense, this is why when other speak of Gods sovereignty you HAVE to think like this, in terms of God choosing who goes to heaven and hell. This just isn't what His word teaches at all. Guess what? The starting point of this equation is ALL people are under God's righteous wrath, from birth, and doomed to Hell with no hope at all of even identifying the problem in the first place, neverminded fixing the problem.

So the fact ANYONE of us at all are saved, is testament of His mercy and grace and you don't get to condemn Him for "sending people to hell", no matter what theological group you aim it at. Why is your main concern always making sure we get glory for our salvation. It doesn't matter the topic really, you always aim the conversation towards the glory you deserve for making the right choice. And nothing seems to upset you more that God getting all the glory. Does your position not raise any red flags to you? That you are always in the "Men deserve glory too" camp, and it pits you in direct opposition to anyone that says all glory to God?

Just seem satanic in nature to me, not that YOU are satanic, or I'm trying to say anything about your salvation status at all. I can't and wouldn't want to be able to, but just on it's face in the most basic breakdown of your everyday argument, you preach a very man dependent, man centered, man glorifying message that really puts your "free will" at the center of everything. That then results in ill informed arguments against those that glorify God alone, like saying people are, "attributing unrighteous hate to God " by proclaiming the truth of His sovereignty by saying this ='s Him picking who goes to hell. When that is an illogical and irrelevant point that holds NO water based on the FACT and TRUTH that we are all going to hell from the start anyway, but it's your bedrock. How can you not see these things?
 

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Well, you were vague about what is confusing, so let us take one point at a time.

1. Adam and Eve sinned together. Right? (GN 3:6-7)
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The Work of the Holy Ghost !

It is the Holy Spirit's job unto the Elect of God, those Christ died for, to save them from their sins, it is His mission to teach them about sin Jn 16:8-9

8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

9Of sin, because they believe not on me;

Jn 6:45

45It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all[The Children] taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

By Nature we know nothing about sin, how terrible it is, and how deep it is. Oh yes, by nature we know about good morals, morality, we know its wrong to steal, become a drunkard, and commit murder, but sins of pride, self righteousness and covetousness we are ignorant of by nature. Look at Jn 3:19-21

19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

You know what deeds are spoken of here as being evil ? Its the religious deeds of the nation ! Its the jews trying to make themselves right with God by the deeds of the Law. Rom 10:3

3For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

Being caught up into False Religion, no matter how sincere, that is evil deeds. When Paul spoke of those things in Phil 3:5-6

5Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

6Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.

Those things were his evil deeds spoken of in Jn 3:19

Now the only thing that can expose these things as evil, is the Work of the Holy Spirit. Jn 16:8

8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

That word reprove is the same word in Jn 3:20

20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

I understand this to mean, no man can come to the light unless their religious sinful deeds are reproved by a work of the Holy Spirit.

You see, it does not take a work of the Spirit to convince the natural man that stealing is an evil deed, or fornication and hate is a evil deed, but tell a man that his sincere effort to serve and please God without Christ is evil deeds, then you will see how difficult a task that is.

But, when God the Holy Spirit implants New Life from Christ in a sinner, with an application of God's Law, that sinner is effectually taught his sinfulness, in its deep spirituality, but also this sinner will be taught the Gospel of their Salvation !

Each elect vessel of Mercy will be Taught their sinfulness before God, even if its sincere false religion, and each one will come to Christ, that is Believe on Him. 2
 

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I reject your premise when you say "attributing unrighteous hate to God". This comes from a place of a "disconnected from reality" starting point. You make it sound like all people are born on an even playing field and it's up to us to choose up or down. This isn't true in any sense, this is why when other speak of Gods sovereignty you HAVE to think like this, in terms of God choosing who goes to heaven and hell. This just isn't what His word teaches at all. Guess what? The starting point of this equation is ALL people are under God's righteous wrath, from birth, and doomed to Hell with no hope at all of even identifying the problem in the first place, neverminded fixing the problem.

So the fact ANYONE of us at all are saved, is testament of His mercy and grace and you don't get to condemn Him for "sending people to hell", no matter what theological group you aim it at. Why is your main concern always making sure we get glory for our salvation. It doesn't matter the topic really, you always aim the conversation towards the glory you deserve for making the right choice. And nothing seems to upset you more that God getting all the glory. Does your position not raise any red flags to you? That you are always in the "Men deserve glory too" camp, and it pits you in direct opposition to anyone that says all glory to God?

Just seem satanic in nature to me, not that YOU are satanic, or I'm trying to say anything about your salvation status at all. I can't and wouldn't want to be able to, but just on it's face in the most basic breakdown of your everyday argument, you preach a very man dependent, man centered, man glorifying message that really puts your "free will" at the center of everything. That then results in ill informed arguments against those that glorify God alone, like saying people are, "attributing unrighteous hate to God " by proclaiming the truth of His sovereignty by saying this ='s Him picking who goes to hell. When that is an illogical and irrelevant point that holds NO water based on the FACT and TRUTH that we are all going to hell from the start anyway, but it's your bedrock. How can you not see these things?
Re "I reject your premise when you say "attributing unrighteous hate to God": You don't think that is wrong?

Re "This comes from a place of a "disconnected from reality" starting point. You make it sound like all people are born on an even playing field and it's up to us to choose up or down." I do not think folks start with equal opportunities. I guess you have not seen me say that I admit being raised in accordance with God's "plan A", so that I have always believed in Christ. Also, you apparently missed my referencing the Parable of the Talents as indicating the basis of God's just judgment: He judges people on the basis of the revelation they have had the opportunity to seek.

Re "ALL people are under God's righteous wrath, from birth, and doomed to Hell with no hope at all of even identifying the problem in the first place, neverminded fixing the problem.": I am astonished that you do not see this attributes unrighteous hatred to God.

Re "So the fact ANYONE of us at all are saved, is testament of His mercy and grace": Only toward those.

Re "you don't get to condemn Him for "sending people to hell": No, God could act like the devil, but GW teaches that He loves everyone. It just so happens that in my study of the TOP I just covered 2PT 3:9&15, which I hope you will learn rather than try to explain away.

Re "Why is your main concern always making sure we get glory for our salvation.": My main concern is giving God the glory.

Re "you always aim the conversation towards the glory you deserve for making the right choice.": No, but you seem to think saving faith/will is meritorious, whereas Paul teaches that it is NOT in RM 4:1-25.

Re "Just seem satanic in nature to me": Well, thanks for asking so that I had the opportunity to dispel your doubts about my beliefs,

Re "free will at the center of everything": I do think volition is the reason souls are accountable and justly damnable if they misuse or ignore God's grace.

Over...
 

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Yes, A&E ignored the HS, and the consequence was not having salvation, unless/until they repented.

Are we ready for the next point? Do you remember what it was?

(I don't :^)
 

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He shall Glorify Me !

The Lord Jesus Christ said of the Work of Holy Spirit in the world after His Death, Burial, Resurrection and Ascension would be to Glorify Him, this is because He would be an extension of Himself being Glorified. Jesus said Lk 24:26

Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

Jn 12:16,23

These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him.

And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.

You see, arminiansim, freewillism, these false teachings attribute the application of Salvation to the will of man, they say it is up to man to crown the Saviour's work a success to save a soul. They say it is up to man to choose who shall or shall not be saved by the Work of Christ, however scripture teaches no such LIE, but it is God the Holy Spirit who effectually applies the blood of Christ to Chosen and Redeemed sinners. He quickens them by His Almighty Power Jn 6:63

63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

The word quickeneth is the greek word zōopoieō and means:


to produce alive, begat or bear living young

2) to cause to live, make alive, give life

He, Glorifies Jesus Christ by giving Spiritual Life, or making alive Spiritually everyone Christ died for and redeemed by His Blood. He applies Justification to Life to all whom Christ represented in His act of obedience Rom 5:18

18Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

It is He, the Holy Spirit, through the Gospel that calls those Chosen and Redeemed sinners with effectual grace, remember when Paul said he was called by His Grace ? Gal 1:5. See also 2 Thess 2:14; Ps 65:4;110:3; Jn 16:8-11

For He by His Power gives Faith to the Chosen, for Faith is the Fruit or effect of the Spirit Gal 5:22. However, the adversaries of the Cross deny His Sovereign Work which crowns Christ's work with success and Glorifies Him, and attribute it to the freewill of man ! 2
 

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He shall Glorify Me !

The Lord Jesus Christ said of the Work of Holy Spirit in the world after His Death, Burial, Resurrection and Ascension would be to Glorify Him, this is because He would be an extension of Himself being Glorified. Jesus said Lk 24:26

Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

Jn 12:16,23

These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him.

And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.

You see, arminiansim, freewillism, these false teachings attribute the application of Salvation to the will of man, they say it is up to man to crown the Saviour's work a success to save a soul. They say it is up to man to choose who shall or shall not be saved by the Work of Christ, however scripture teaches no such LIE, but it is God the Holy Spirit who effectually applies the blood of Christ to Chosen and Redeemed sinners. He quickens them by His Almighty Power Jn 6:63

63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

The word quickeneth is the greek word zōopoieō and means:


to produce alive, begat or bear living young

2) to cause to live, make alive, give life

He, Glorifies Jesus Christ by giving Spiritual Life, or making alive Spiritually everyone Christ died for and redeemed by His Blood. He applies Justification to Life to all whom Christ represented in His act of obedience Rom 5:18

18Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

It is He, the Holy Spirit, through the Gospel that calls those Chosen and Redeemed sinners with effectual grace, remember when Paul said he was called by His Grace ? Gal 1:5. See also 2 Thess 2:14; Ps 65:4;110:3; Jn 16:8-11

For He by His Power gives Faith to the Chosen, for Faith is the Fruit or effect of the Spirit Gal 5:22. However, the adversaries of the Cross deny His Sovereign Work which crowns Christ's work with success and Glorifies Him, and attribute it to the freewill of man ! 2
Good point!

It just so happens that a little while ago I updated my website with the TOP that concluded with that point:

TOP #313: Live godly lives as you look forward to a new home and heaven on earth. [2PT 3:1-14] This is how people can be ready for the second coming of the Son of Man (MT 24:42-44, TOJ #146).

TOP #314: Although some of Paul’s doctrine may be difficult to understand, his wisdom is inspired by God. [2PT 3:15-16] Paul claimed to preach the wisdom of God and have the mind of Christ (in 1CR 1:23-25 & 2:6-16, TOP #78 & 80).

TOP #315: Ignorant and unstable people distort or misinterpret Scripture to their own destruction. [2PT 3:16]

TOP #134&264: Guard against being tempted by ungoldy people to commit apostasy. [2PT 3:17 = HB 6:4-6] Apparently this was becoming too common as time passed.

TOP #81&191: Grow in grace and knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. [2PT 3:18 = 1CR 3:1-3 & COL 1:10] Knowledge increases as a believer learns the didache, and grace grows as what is learned is applied or manifested as spiritual fruit (GL 5:22-23).

TOP #73&44: May Jesus be praised/glorified now and forever, Amen! [2PT 3:18 = RM 9:5] Amen!
 

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Holy Spirit's role in Salvation !

It is the Sovereign Spirit that not only reveals [ 1 Cor 2:10] the Truth to the Elect sinners and causes them to believe, but also He secures them in the Truth by sealing them unto Glory. Paul states that believers are sealed by the Holy Spirit after they believe the Truth Eph 1:13

13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

This word sealed is aorist passive, and denotes we were sealed permanently. The word also means:

to set a seal upon, mark with a seal, to seal

a) for security: from Satan

in order to prove, confirm, or attest a thing

1) to confirm authenticate, place beyond doubt

A True believer can never apostatize from the Truth. Redemption was in wisdom perfectly planned and purposed by the Father, accomplished by the work of the Son, but it is also applied or made experimental to the Vessels of Mercy, by the Holy Spirit, by efficacious Calling Heb 9:12-15. It is only by His Sovereign work that any of the Elect are made partakers of Christ's redemption and experience Godly conversion. The Work of God the Holy Spirit is an necessary extension of the work of Christ on the Cross. It's through His Work that sinners are converted to God, on the Sole Merits of Christ's Cross Work !
 

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Holy Spirit's role in Salvation !

It is the Sovereign Spirit that not only reveals [ 1 Cor 2:10] the Truth to the Elect sinners and causes them to believe, but also He secures them in the Truth by sealing them unto Glory. Paul states that believers are sealed by the Holy Spirit after they believe the Truth Eph 1:13

13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

This word sealed is aorist passive, and denotes we were sealed permanently. The word also means:

to set a seal upon, mark with a seal, to seal

a) for security: from Satan

in order to prove, confirm, or attest a thing

1) to confirm authenticate, place beyond doubt

A True believer can never apostatize from the Truth. Redemption was in wisdom perfectly planned and purposed by the Father, accomplished by the work of the Son, but it is also applied or made experimental to the Vessels of Mercy, by the Holy Spirit, by efficacious Calling Heb 9:12-15. It is only by His Sovereign work that any of the Elect are made partakers of Christ's redemption and experience Godly conversion. The Work of God the Holy Spirit is an necessary extension of the work of Christ on the Cross. It's through His Work that sinners are converted to God, on the Sole Merits of Christ's Cross Work !
The Holy Spirit also loves everyone (JN 3:16), so if He were going to cause, secure and seal anyone, He would do so for everyone (2PT 3:9).
 

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The Holy Spirit also loves everyone (JN 3:16), so if He were going to cause, secure and seal anyone, He would do so for everyone (2PT 3:9).
False witnessing
 

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The Spirit's work in Salvation !

He shall testify of me ! Jn 15:26

26But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

Jesus here speaking to His disciples, those He had Chosen vs 16 [Note: judas not present at this time] representing the Church, He promises that the Holy Spirit or Comforter shall testify of him, bear witness of Him. The greek word for testify is martyreō:


to be a witness, to bear witness, i.e. to affirm that one has seen or heard or experienced something, or that he knows it because taught by divine revelation or inspiration

a) to give (not to keep back) testimony

b) to utter honourable testimony, give a good report

c) conjure, implore

This means, all for whom Christ died that comprised His Church [Eph 5:25] He will testify to them, He will make it known to them, The reality of Christ's Work, and that He gave Himself a ransom for them [personally] ! This is the Spirit's role in Salvation. This is what Paul means in 1 Tim 2:6

6Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

The All for whom Christ gave Himself a ransom for [The Church] it shall be testified to each one of them in due time by the Spirit of God. The Holy Spirit's work is in direct conjunction with Christ's Work, and extends the application of it to all whom He died in behalf of. He testifies of Christ before the quickened conscience, and sets Him before them as being crucified for him. He takes the things of Christ [His Righteousness, Salvation] and shews it to them Jn 16:14. He will work Faith in their Hearts [fruit of His Gal 5:22] and enable them to believe in Him, which believing makes their Election and Son Ship manifest Jn 1:12-13, and He will continue to bear witness with their Spirit, that they are the Children of God Rom 8:16

Jesus said that the Spirit shall Glorify Him Jn 16:14. The word Glorify is in the present tense, He would be continually Glorifying Christ by revealing Him to every soul that Christ died for and giving them Faith in Him !
 

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Jn 16:7

7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

The word expedient also conveys the meaning of [appropriate for a purpose]. The Lord Jesus Christ is giving His disciples [The Church] to know the importance of the need of the comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, to come and to assist in their commission of evangelism, not only would He aid them, but He is needed for the gathering in of the rest of the Church, the people Christ died for.

The Holy Spirit was responsible to apply the saving benefits to all Christ died for, the Church, His Body. He came to regenerate all of God's elect as it was according to The Everlasting Covenant of which Christ is the Surety.

Isa 59:21

As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.

The coming of the Spirit to regenerate is a covenant promise [Ezk 36:26-27] and blood purchased, He works by means of the Father and the Son [Jn 14:26], as this is realized we give Glory To God Triune for the Salvation of a sinner, and Thank Them for the saving Operations of the Spirit.

The Holy Spirit works from the Father's decree 2 Thess 2:13

13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

And the Son's redemption Gal 4:5

To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Rom 8:15

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

And so He is sent to make effective what was counseled in the Everlasting Covenant for the experimental salvation of God's people that Christ died for.

To all the Father elected, all whom Christ died, the Spirit is given to them as the Spirit of promise. The Holy Spirit is the bond of union between the elect members and Christ their Head, He unites us to Christ experimentally because we have the Same Spirit He has, that is the Holy Spirit in the Head is in the members, so He works like effects for the same, if He quickens the Head as here:

Rom 8:11

But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

1 Pet 3:18

For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

He will also quicken the Members..

Thats why each dead spiritually elect or chosen in Christ Eph 1:4 will be quickened while dead in trespasses and sins Eph 2:1,4,5

1And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved )

This is a work of the Spirit in Salvation, why it was expedient that Christ go away that He may come and begin His Saving, quickening Ministry, at this time He would mostly work in behalf of the apostles to prepare the elect to receive their word..
Did you notice they were required to keep his word in order to receive the spirit to begin with though ? When you began your post you left out the condition for receiving his spirit

If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

…He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.


Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:15-17, 21, 23-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And those afterwards ?

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38

Notice it’s not that some are chosen and saved beforhand and then they are given the spirit apart from conditions ….instead he’s told them and the people how to receive the spirit do it requires thier hearing and believing and then of course acting in that belief for it to come to pass