The hatred of Jews

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Edit note to my previous post. "husk" , not husky. lol

In the Christian Identity movement their ideology isn't White Supremacy. It is God Supremacy.
 

cv5

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While I am loathe to give Billy's sin any traction I am more concerned this community will become an outlet for the racist Christian Identity blasphemy.

Billy's site is a husky. Most of his members are family and friends. Their ilk is like the evil that occupies their parents basement and talk dirt on Storm Front.

Guys,the dunce cap in your "religious," garb informs the public far more than your occasional marches .

To the non-CI members here,pay attention if you read those here who disparage Jesus,Israel and the Jews.


Exactly why Jesus Christ was not a Jew
https://christogenea.org/podcasts/exactly-why-jesus-christ-not-jew

"...So according to Jesus Himself, the people calling themselves Jews at this time are not "real" Jews, meaning that they are not actually of the tribe of Judah. But how can that be? First, we will see that Paul of Tarsus agrees with Jesus, and the events which Luke recorded in Acts chapter 26 had actually transpired about 35 years before John recorded the Revelation."


TruthVid's 100 Proofs that the Israelites were White, Part 5: 14, Jesus was White; 15, Inhabitants of Middle East Were Once White
https://christogenea.org/podcasts/truthvids-100-proofs-israelites-were-white-part-5



They're proselytizing here.

Unless CC wants to open a board for Christian Identity? Which could be their motive. One of them anyway.

Before someone asks,how do you know that site? I found their bible at Amazon when searching for a copy of the original Bible. Talk about Amazon getting their search engine wires crossed. Then, I did the research.

When you know the identity of the Enemy it makes it easier to identify it when it appears in your midst.

Those CI members here insist they don't hate the Jews. They lost to the contrary. Now,you know why they say that about the Jews.
Oh yes, sounds like another flavor of British Israelism humbug.
 

MeowFlower

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Oh yes, sounds like another flavor of British Israelism humbug.
Or, racist cult rhetoric invented by a convicted murderer.

This is the guy Billy who while in prison rewrote the bible from his CI perspective.

"Bill Finck is League of the South, a “theologian” in Christian Identity’s white supremacist network, and — A violent convicted felon. In 1989, Finck - then a sergeant and jail guard - beat a handcuffed Puerto Rican inmate to death in Jersey City."
https://x.com/MsEntropy/status/1423730827926458370


I'm thinking his forum members are those who espouse CI rhetoric in this thread. Because they parrot the writings at his site.

Yes,there are more than one CI site in the Net. However, repeating what's available for our review on his site is what makes that connection to Finck.
 

cv5

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Or, racist cult rhetoric invented by a convicted murderer.

This is the guy Billy who while in prison rewrote the bible from his CI perspective.

"Bill Finck is League of the South, a “theologian” in Christian Identity’s white supremacist network, and — A violent convicted felon. In 1989, Finck - then a sergeant and jail guard - beat a handcuffed Puerto Rican inmate to death in Jersey City."
https://x.com/MsEntropy/status/1423730827926458370


I'm thinking his forum members are those who espouse CI rhetoric in this thread. Because they parrot the writings at his site.

Yes,there are more than one CI site in the Net. However, repeating what's available for our review on his site is what makes that connection to Finck.
Sounds like an accurate assessment. Good to know thanks.

Red alert to the board.
 

Yahshua

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...so as I was saying...

The Jews we see killing innocent women and children by the thousands for an entire year aren't the Jews of scripture.
Some 100,000 residents trapped in Israel's north Gaza assault, Palestinians say


I'm not sure how long some of you have been here, but I hope you realize that fallacious tactics like "straw men", "guilt by association" ad hominems, "poisoning the well [board]", and threats to cancel (i.e., misusing "report"), only work on the uninformed or inexperienced as attempts to shy folks away from addressing the substance of the arguments made.

The modern State of Israel isn't the regathering of those scattered as detailed in prophecy.

This latest CI nonsense is no different than labels like anti-semitic meant to shut down the discussion. There have been labels hurled before you and there will be new labels created after you. Just know there are many different members here with different hats in this ring but unified by one cause: the crying out for the murder of the innocent. Now, it would be wrong of me to say that the members here who support the state of Israel are complicit in murder, wouldn't it? So let's stop with the fallacies. It's juvenile.

There is absolutely nothing in scripture predicting that the regathered people would receive the promise through anyone else's blood but the Messiah's; not the blood of animals by reinstituting temple sacrifice and not the blood of innocent children by slaughtering thousands. The regathering happens through the greatest act of life (Resurrection), not the greatest act of death (genocide). The Almighty is pretty precise with His prophecies if we care to pay attention.


Revelation 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.


The Messiah warned His servants that there would be liars who claimed to be Jews and that those people would be the synagogues of satan. Satan's craft is to lie, steal, and kill, and his children do what their father does. They bear his fruit rather than the Son's fruit. The Messiah also said the wheat and the tares would grow together until the harvest when each was mature enough to be distinguished from the other (Matt 13:24-30). I believe we are living through the fulfillment of these passages.

So, prove Rev 2:9 and Matt 13:24-30 aren't what we're seeing fulfilled before our eyes right now. I'd really love for us to engage in the scriptures. We can even start with definitions like originally suggested by @GaryA .

Prove it without personal attacks if you can.
 

Cameron143

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...so as I was saying...

The Jews we see killing innocent women and children by the thousands for an entire year aren't the Jews of scripture.
Some 100,000 residents trapped in Israel's north Gaza assault, Palestinians say


I'm not sure how long some of you have been here, but I hope you realize that fallacious tactics like "straw men", "guilt by association" ad hominems, "poisoning the well [board]", and threats to cancel (i.e., misusing "report"), only work on the uninformed or inexperienced as attempts to shy folks away from addressing the substance of the arguments made.

The modern State of Israel isn't the regathering of those scattered as detailed in prophecy.

This latest CI nonsense is no different than labels like anti-semitic meant to shut down the discussion. There have been labels hurled before you and there will be new labels created after you. Just know there are many different members here with different hats in this ring but unified by one cause: the crying out for the murder of the innocent. Now, it would be wrong of me to say that the members here who support the state of Israel are complicit in murder, wouldn't it? So let's stop with the fallacies. It's juvenile.

There is absolutely nothing in scripture predicting that the regathered people would receive the promise through anyone else's blood but the Messiah's; not the blood of animals by reinstituting temple sacrifice and not the blood of innocent children by slaughtering thousands. The regathering happens through the greatest act of life (Resurrection), not the greatest act of death (genocide). The Almighty is pretty precise with His prophecies if we care to pay attention.


Revelation 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.


The Messiah warned His servants that there would be liars who claimed to be Jews and that those people would be the synagogues of satan. Satan's craft is to lie, steal, and kill, and his children do what their father does. They bear his fruit rather than the Son's fruit. The Messiah also said the wheat and the tares would grow together until the harvest when each was mature enough to be distinguished from the other (Matt 13:24-30). I believe we are living through the fulfillment of these passages.

So, prove Rev 2:9 and Matt 13:24-30 aren't what we're seeing fulfilled before our eyes right now. I'd really love for us to engage in the scriptures. We can even start with definitions like originally suggested by @GaryA .

Prove it without personal attacks if you can.
I heard the other day a Hamas leader said 80% of the deaths were of Hamas soldiers and their families. Have you heard that report? Would it make a difference to you if true?
 

Yahshua

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I heard the other day a Hamas leader said 80% of the deaths were of Hamas soldiers and their families. Have you heard that report? Would it make a difference to you if true?
I have not heard the report and it wouldn't make sense considering other statements and facts. But it would make a difference because those who live by the sword shall die by the sword. This is a principle of scripture, while the killing of innocent is an abomination to The Almighty:

Proverbs 6:16-19
These six things the Lord hates,
Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
17 A proud look,
A lying tongue,
Hands that shed innocent blood,
18 A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that are swift in running to evil,
19 A false witness who speaks lies,
And one who sows discord among brethren.


Proverbs 17:15
Acquitting the guilty and condemning the innocent are abominations to the Lord.

Matthew 26:52
...all who draw the sword will die by the sword.

Revelation 13:10
He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.


We know for sure from casualty records that women and children make up the majority of the deaths as 50% of the Gazan population before October 7th were under the age of 18. So the only way to get to the 80% figure is to include young children as Hamas combatants.

Now, there is evidence of soldiers having this very sentiment; that there are no innocent people in Gaza, which would explain the multitude of fallen children with sniper head wounds (as testified by American doctors who have since returned). There are even soldiers proudly sharing on social media the creative ways they've killed several Palestinian babies. Not young men. Babies.

And only with this "moral army" is killing the families of soldiers not even given a moment's pause. Imagine if the families of American soldiers were killed by an enemy force for the acts of the soldiers in a war. We would call them barbarians.

..But oh not for the Israelis. Perish the thought.

Evil.
 

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1) The Jews we see killing innocent women and children by the thousands for an entire year aren't the Jews of scripture.

2) The modern State of Israel isn't the regathering of those scattered as detailed in prophecy.

3) There is absolutely nothing in scripture predicting that the regathered people would receive the promise through anyone else's blood but the Messiah's;
1) Yes they are. The vast majority are still the Sons of Jacob. If you have conclusive DNA evidence to the contrary present it.
2) Undoubtedly they are. I have already proven this from Scripture.
3) These regathered Israelites definitely receive the promise by the blood of Messiah.
In fact His resurrection and the fulfillment of the new covenant is obviously a necessary precursor to the Second Coming where He DELIVERS Israel from the antichrist, after which He recommission them to service.
 

cv5

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I have not heard the report and it wouldn't make sense considering other statements and facts. But it would make a difference because those who live by the sword shall die by the sword. This is a principle of scripture, while the killing of innocent is an abomination to The Almighty:

Proverbs 6:16-19
These six things the Lord hates,
Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
17 A proud look,
A lying tongue,
Hands that shed innocent blood,
18 A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that are swift in running to evil,
19 A false witness who speaks lies,
And one who sows discord among brethren.


Proverbs 17:15
Acquitting the guilty and condemning the innocent are abominations to the Lord.

Matthew 26:52
...all who draw the sword will die by the sword.

Revelation 13:10
He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.


We know for sure from casualty records that women and children make up the majority of the deaths as 50% of the Gazan population before October 7th were under the age of 18. So the only way to get to the 80% figure is to include young children as Hamas combatants.

Now, there is evidence of soldiers having this very sentiment; that there are no innocent people in Gaza, which would explain the multitude of fallen children with sniper head wounds (as testified by American doctors who have since returned). There are even soldiers proudly sharing on social media the creative ways they've killed several Palestinian babies. Not young men. Babies.

And only with this "moral army" is killing the families of soldiers not even given a moment's pause. Imagine if the families of American soldiers were killed by an enemy force for the acts of the soldiers in a war. We would call them barbarians.

..But oh not for the Israelis. Perish the thought.

Evil.
Something like two thirds (at least) of the Israelites die during the tribulation.
Same goes for the rest of mankind who dwell upon the earth.
I'm sure you will get a great deal of satisfaction from this. As does Satan.

Fortunately, we Christians are out of here. Pretrib rapture.

As for you? As your faith is so be it unto you.
 

Cameron143

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I have not heard the report and it wouldn't make sense considering other statements and facts. But it would make a difference because those who live by the sword shall die by the sword. This is a principle of scripture, while the killing of innocent is an abomination to The Almighty:

Proverbs 6:16-19
These six things the Lord hates,
Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
17 A proud look,
A lying tongue,
Hands that shed innocent blood,
18 A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that are swift in running to evil,
19 A false witness who speaks lies,
And one who sows discord among brethren.


Proverbs 17:15
Acquitting the guilty and condemning the innocent are abominations to the Lord.

Matthew 26:52
...all who draw the sword will die by the sword.

Revelation 13:10
He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.


We know for sure from casualty records that women and children make up the majority of the deaths as 50% of the Gazan population before October 7th were under the age of 18. So the only way to get to the 80% figure is to include young children as Hamas combatants.

Now, there is evidence of soldiers having this very sentiment; that there are no innocent people in Gaza, which would explain the multitude of fallen children with sniper head wounds (as testified by American doctors who have since returned). There are even soldiers proudly sharing on social media the creative ways they've killed several Palestinian babies. Not young men. Babies.

And only with this "moral army" is killing the families of soldiers not even given a moment's pause. Imagine if the families of American soldiers were killed by an enemy force for the acts of the soldiers in a war. We would call them barbarians.

..But oh not for the Israelis. Perish the thought.

Evil.
I saw a story put out by the UN that the over 50% was woman and children was wrong as well. I guess your only interested in Hamas official numbers.

And if US soldiers were using their own family members as shields, we have bigger problems than family casualties. To make such an equivalent is preposterous to begin with.

I do appreciate you taking the time to answer though. You have lost some credibility on your reporting with me, but I believe you believe your reporting is accurate.
 

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1) Yes they are. The vast majority are still the Sons of Jacob. If you have conclusive DNA evidence to the contrary present it.
Since you requested. From this post

The Origins of Ashkenaz, Ashkenazic Jews, and Yiddish
“We show that all bio-localization analyses have localized [Ashkenazi Jews] to Turkey and that the non-Levantine origins of [Ashkenazi Jews] are supported by ancient genome analyses. Overall, these findings are compatible with the hypothesis of an Irano-Turko-Slavic origin for [Ashkenazi Jews] and a Slavic origin for Yiddish…”

Ashkenazic Jews’ mysterious origins unravelled by scientists thanks to ancient DNA
For a more scientific take on the Jewish origin debate, recent DNA analysis of Ashkenazic Jews – a Jewish ethnic group – revealed that their maternal line is European. It has also been found that their DNA only has 3% ancient ancestry which links them with the Eastern Mediterranean (also known as the Middle East) – namely Israel, Lebanon, parts of Syria, and western Jordan. This is the part of the world Jewish people are said to have originally come from – according to the Old Testament. But 3% is a minuscule amount, and similar to what modern Europeans as a whole share with Neanderthals. So given that the genetic ancestry link is so low, Ashkenazic Jews’ most recent ancestors must be from elsewhere.”

2) Undoubtedly they are. I have already proven this from Scripture.
Where is The Messiah? And why isn't there peace? And why are there more and more partitions rather than unwalled villages?

3) These regathered Israelites definitely receive the promise by the blood of Messiah.
In fact His resurrection and the fulfillment of the new covenant is obviously a necessary precursor to the Second Coming where He DELIVERS Israel from the antichrist, after which He recommission them to service.
This reads as if you're saying belief in the Messiah isn't necessary to receive the promises of The Living God.
 

Yahshua

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I saw a story put out by the UN that the over 50% was woman and children was wrong as well. I guess your only interested in Hamas official numbers.

And if US soldiers were using their own family members as shields, we have bigger problems than family casualties. To make such an equivalent is preposterous to begin with.

I do appreciate you taking the time to answer though. You have lost some credibility on your reporting with me, but I believe you believe your reporting is accurate.
Meanwhile, you keep saying "I saw" and "I heard" with nothing shared. I was going to point it out but I gave you the benefit of the doubt. Lesson learned.
 

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Since you requested. From this post

The Origins of Ashkenaz, Ashkenazic Jews, and Yiddish
“We show that all bio-localization analyses have localized [Ashkenazi Jews] to Turkey and that the non-Levantine origins of [Ashkenazi Jews] are supported by ancient genome analyses. Overall, these findings are compatible with the hypothesis of an Irano-Turko-Slavic origin for [Ashkenazi Jews] and a Slavic origin for Yiddish…”

Ashkenazic Jews’ mysterious origins unravelled by scientists thanks to ancient DNA
For a more scientific take on the Jewish origin debate, recent DNA analysis of Ashkenazic Jews – a Jewish ethnic group – revealed that their maternal line is European. It has also been found that their DNA only has 3% ancient ancestry which links them with the Eastern Mediterranean (also known as the Middle East) – namely Israel, Lebanon, parts of Syria, and western Jordan. This is the part of the world Jewish people are said to have originally come from – according to the Old Testament. But 3% is a minuscule amount, and similar to what modern Europeans as a whole share with Neanderthals. So given that the genetic ancestry link is so low, Ashkenazic Jews’ most recent ancestors must be from elsewhere.”


Where is The Messiah? And why isn't there peace? And why are there more and more partitions rather than unwalled villages?



This reads as if you're saying belief in the Messiah isn't necessary to receive the promises of The Living God.
The Askhenazi Jew hoax. That's all youve got.
Did you personally DNA test every single person in Israel? No and neither did anyone else.

Don't think that everyone else is as soft in the head as you are.
 

Yahshua

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The Askhenazi Jew hoax. That's all youve got.
Did you personally DNA test every single person in Israel? No and neither did anyone else.

Don't think that everyone else is as soft in the head as you are.
You project a lot, CV.
 

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Meanwhile, you keep saying "I saw" and "I heard" with nothing shared. I was going to point it out but I gave you the benefit of the doubt. Lesson learned.
Site is JNS...10-7-24.
 

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This latest CI nonsense is no different than labels like anti-semitic meant to shut down the discussion.
So far fetched the CI nonsense, I had to look it up.

It is especially interesting when a person is unable to even defend their position just comes with bizarre accusations.
Seems like an agenda.
 

Yahshua

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So far fetched the CI nonsense, I had to look it up.

It is especially interesting when a person is unable to even defend their position just comes with bizarre accusations.
Seems like an agenda.
I did exactly the same as soon as I read it. Ridiculousness.