The gospel of the kingdom, the everlasting gospel, gospel of Christ, etc.

[Gideon300]

Peter was addressing the strangers scattered abroad in 1 Peter 1:1.

Only Jews can be scattered since Israel is the only nation that had a covenant with God.

Gentiles come from every other nation so no one would describe Gentile Christians as "scattered".

There are no Jewish or Gentile Christians. It's a distinction that is meaningless. The early church was entirely Jewish, either by birth or proselytes. There is no Jewish heaven; no Jewish hell for that matter.

 

[Kolistus]

I wanted to get some feedback on:

Are these all basically referring to the same gospel: gospel of the kingdom, the everlasting gospel, the gospel of Christ, the gospel of God, gospel of the grace of God, the gospel of peace, the gospel of the uncircumcision, and where the term gospel seems to be used generically.

Bonus question: is the gospel that is "preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations" in Matthew 24:14 a reference to the great commission (Matt. 28:19-20) or is it a reference to the angel who preaches the everlasting gospel to all the nations mentioned in Revelation 14:6-7?

Underlines added by me.
Bible used: KJV
Matthew 24:14
14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Mark 1:1
1The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

Acts 14:7
7And there they preached the gospel.

Acts 20:24
24But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

Romans 1:1
1Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

Romans 10:15
15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Galatians 2:7
7But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

Revelation 14:6-7
6And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

There is only one Gospel. Many names for the same one. Gospel just means glad tidings of good things. Good news thats all.

 

[brightfame52]

There is only One Gospel, the Gospel of the Kingdom is an emphasis on the fact that Salvation is accomplished and governed by the Sovereign Will of God. Matt 24:14

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

 

[Naomi123]

What happens is people read the ' content of James and try to adapt verse 1 to fit . Instead of starting with verse 1 , believing verse 1 ,and in light of verse 1 ,understand the context of the whole book . That and trying to ' harmonise ' Romans 4 ,5 with James .

just something to share..Corinthians.....this treasure is before all mankind...and the reason scripture says...today when you hear His voice..harden not your hearts...the Gospel is Gods instruction.....
so our obedience to God is purely out of love..He who created the sun...the moon the stars ⭐️ No evidence needed...those who walk to the God of Israel..they will find ...just like Moses🌅

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him

 

[throughfaith]

just something to share..Corinthians.....this treasure is before all mankind...and the reason scripture says...today when you hear His voice..harden not your hearts...the Gospel is Gods instruction.....
so our obedience to God is purely out of love..He who created the sun...the moon the stars ⭐️ No evidence needed...those who walk to the God of Israel..they will find ...just like Moses🌅

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him

10But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

 

[throughfaith]

just something to share..Corinthians.....this treasure is before all mankind...and the reason scripture says...today when you hear His voice..harden not your hearts...the Gospel is Gods instruction.....
so our obedience to God is purely out of love..He who created the sun...the moon the stars ⭐️ No evidence needed...those who walk to the God of Israel..they will find ...just like Moses🌅

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him

Have you looked into ' Lordship salvation ' . A Calvinst will portray it as a good thing , but practically its a works based mindset .

 

[Naomi123]

10But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.[/QUOTE
🌏 there is more....most people run away half way in life....but you have to do battle with that big devil who stands in our way....on their own people succumb to that dark power......then when they weak he crushes their spirit ..but with The Lord...you will cross over.....read the events leading up to the crucifixion...it is so painful to even read...to observe the cruelty Of mankind.....yet in all this is the mighty wisdom of God...who is forever watching....even mans deepest thoughts..all is revealed to God

 

[Naomi123]

Have you looked into ' Lordship salvation ' . A Calvinst will portray it as a good thing , but practically its a works based mindset .

Hopes..but will read up...thanks....we must share all these observations

 

[Naomi123]

Hopes..but will read up...thanks....we must share all these observations

Sorry meant..Nopes🌝

 

[throughfaith]

Hopes..but will read up...thanks....we must share all these observations

Don't take this in a bad way . But it does seem like you may have picked up a little ' legalism ' in your understanding?

 

[Naomi123]

Oh no definitely not🌺 ...
have You read Job...I love that book

 

[Guojing]

There are no Jewish or Gentile Christians. It's a distinction that is meaningless. The early church was entirely Jewish, either by birth or proselytes. There is no Jewish heaven; no Jewish hell for that matter.

I am distinguishing between the nation Israel, and the Body of Christ, not Jews and gentiles.

In the Body of Christ, I agree with you, there is no distinction between Jews and Gentiles.

But in the nation Israel, everyone is a Jew. Gentiles who joined Israel in the OT had to become Jews (Esther 8:17)

 

[Guojing]

The Kingdom of God is primarily spiritual. it is the place where Satan is cast out and the will of God is done. Lord Jesus will return and reign from Jerusalem for 1000 years, but that reign is over all the earth, not just Israel. Once the Millennium is finished, and Satan dealt with once and for all, there will be a new heavens and a new earth.

I see, the idea that the KOG is spiritual is a very common doctrine held by Christians.

At the same time, you also believe that the Body of Christ is spiritual Israel, is that correct too?

 

[Gideon300]

I am distinguishing between the nation Israel, and the Body of Christ, not Jews and gentiles.

In the Body of Christ, I agree with you, there is no distinction between Jews and Gentiles.

But in the nation Israel, everyone is a Jew. Gentiles who joined Israel in the OT had to become Jews (Esther 8:17)

I see, the idea that the KOG is spiritual is a very common doctrine held by Christians.

At the same time, you also believe that the Body of Christ is spiritual Israel, is that correct too?

The concept is meaningless. God's foremost covenant of salvation was with Abraham. There was no Israel and no Jews at that time. Israel should have been God's covenant nation, but they rebelled constantly. I believe that Israel is God's visible manifestation of His mighty power to bring about His will. No man, demon or the devil himself can thwart Him. The Kingdom of God will be world wide, and yes, administered if you will, from Jerusalem. Lord Jesus will continue to work through His body, the church. I believe that it will be a select group, the overcomers, who are His servants in the Kingdom. For a vastly better explanation, I suggest reading "The Glorious Church" by Watchman Nee.

 

[Naomi123]

The kingdom is the revelation of the Holy Father...as was delivered to Moses on Sinai....this is the oral Law...

 

[Gideon300]

The kingdom is the revelation of the Holy Father...as was delivered to Moses on Sinai....this is the oral Law...

I do not understand what you are getting at. Are you thinking of God revealing Himself to Moses in Exodus 34?

 

[Guojing]

The concept is meaningless. God's foremost covenant of salvation was with Abraham. There was no Israel and no Jews at that time. Israel should have been God's covenant nation, but they rebelled constantly. I believe that Israel is God's visible manifestation of His mighty power to bring about His will. No man, demon or the devil himself can thwart Him. The Kingdom of God will be world wide, and yes, administered if you will, from Jerusalem. Lord Jesus will continue to work through His body, the church. I believe that it will be a select group, the overcomers, who are His servants in the Kingdom. For a vastly better explanation, I suggest reading "The Glorious Church" by Watchman Nee.

When you call it meaningless, are you saying you believe Israel the nation has been abandoned by God?

 

[Naomi123]

I do not understand what you are getting at. Are you thinking of God revealing Himself to Moses in Exodus 34?

correct....as you will see in life...many fight against God....they want to live as they wish....unfortunately this disobedience has consequence...
we are not here to live up to the expectations of society...which is ultimately Death
but the Law which requires us to walk alone...abandoning the worldly pleasures....
God protects us all the way ..until we reach the secret room.....🔥

now we know
now we see
now we understand

the great love of God....in His infinite wisdom..not of this world

 

[Naomi123]

As it is written...you shall not put the Lord God to the test.....
therefore our love for God is from the heart....

blessed are those who wait upon the Lord...

 

[throughfaith]

" God s good news is from Genesis to revelation, its all good news every word, even the bad stuff . Ah yes good news, good news, good news . His plan from alllllll ages ,from start to finish, he always knew his plan in his mind the good news ,the plan from beginning to end to , he knew . This good news, one in number ,oh yes just one . The one singular one, oneness one from the very beginning . .."

" Israel ? " ..oh thats spiritual Israel is really God's people ,the ones that follow God from the heart thats all Israel means. Israel is really the church. The church has always been since Adam . oh yes Israel or' Churchael' as I like to say. Church , Israel, one Gospel, one truth, one love one life .

"Regeneration ? everyone was regenerated in the old testament. There is no verse ,but we just assume it because it has to be ...erm ...because....erm yeah well because they couldn't have done anything, even said his name without being born again first . Yeah that's right , a man needs to be caused to believe so he pleases God by believing this pleases God when he does this so they believe, believe me I didn't believe it when I first heard it but the professor said I'd be a universalist/ semi pelagian if I believed otherwise "