The Five Baptisms of the New Testament

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It isn't necessary for people to be familiar all with the information contained in
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. According to 1Cor 15:1-11 they only need to know
a couple of key points, to wit: Jesus gave his life a ransom to protect sinners from
retribution and that his crucified dead body was restored to life within three days.

Baptism is neither mentioned nor emphasized in that passage so i think it's safe to
assume the ritual isn't essential to salvation.

FAQ: How might an someone obtain this ransom about which you speak?

REPLY: First off; it's necessary to be agreeable with Paul's two key points listed
above.

● 1Cor 15:1-2 . . Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to
you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel
you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you
have believed in vain.

If so; then find yourself some privacy, any place will do. Cover your face with your
hands; it will give you a sense of connection. In your own words, out loud or under
your breath, tell God you've never yet met his standards and you're pretty sure you
never will. Tell Him you'd like to take advantage of His son's death to protect
yourself from retribution.
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[NightTwister]

Yes, according to “man”; but NOT according to God and the scriptures.

No, according to God and the scriptures. Immersion is an incorrect interpretation of some "men." Not that there's anything wrong with immersion, it just isn't necessary.

 

[Aaron56]

John was the son the the High priest (a Levite) who had taken the vow of the Nazarite. He was, in effect, a super-priest (if you will).
Jesus was the Lamb of God. Under the law, all sacrifices needed to be washed and checked for blemishes by the priests before they are offered to God.

When Jesus told John to baptize Him “to fulfill all righteousness” He was talking about offering Himself to John to be inspected for sacrifice: the priest (John) must wash the Lamb (Jesus). Under the Law, this was the righteousness that must be fulfilled.

This was the actual moment He gave His life up for us. His Father (Our Father) confirmed this from heaven and declared “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” In the tradition of the time, the Father said, to paraphrase, “In all manner of my business this son represents me. When you see him you are doing business directly with me as he is now executor of my estate”.

Likewise, we are called to be living sacrifices within the estate of God our Father.

To our error we have made the word "baptism" into a religious word. "Baptism" simply means to immerse. So, whenever we read "baptism" in the scriptures we should not assume it means "in water". No. It simply means "to immerse".

If I was a Greek person in the day, and I was showing my daughter how to clean a table with a wet rag, I would instruct her to "baptize" the rag into the water for cleaning. Baptizo, the Greek word from where we get "baptize", was a common word that meant "to immerse".

So, if I were going to immerse you (baptize you) into the name of someone, for example, I would not necessarily have to add water. A person's name carries with them the authority to function within a prescribed parameter. Not so long ago it was common for police to say "Stop! In the name of the law!". In this, the policeman was declaring his right of authority 1st, to make you stop and 2nd, to do so in the name of the law. The law gave him the authority to declare such a thing. He did not throw down a sticky rug with the word "law" on it in order to make the fleeing person stop.

There are 4 baptisms in the New Testament: fire, water, in the Spirit, and by the Spirit. The "one baptism" that saves us from this world is the one by which we are placed into the body of Christ: the baptism by the Holy Spirit. If we are not placed into Christ (the Holy Spirit is the One who has the power and authority to accomplish this) then we are not of Him and do not have a destiny apart from the destiny of Adam: to die in our sins.

All baptisms are important and should be standard practice of all believers.

 

[CommodoreTeach]

Yes. Water baptism expresses outwardly our decision to start believing God's word about Jesus internally, just as circumcision in the Old Testament expressed outwardly Abraham's decision to trust God's covenant offered to him. I don't think I yet have an answer from anyone about how Abraham would have fared, if He had refused to take the seal of circumcision. How did Moses fare when he refused to circumcise his own son?

Moses talked about circumcision of the heart, but the physical circumcision was also important, as demonstrated in the passage you quoted (Exodus 4).

Similarly, what is most important is being baptised into Christ, but once one is in Christ, surely it is a similar sin to that which Moses committed not to also be physically baptised? Physical baptism is simply the outworking of the faith one has in Christ (imho).

 

[Beckworth]

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It isn't necessary for people to be familiar all with the information contained in
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. According to 1Cor 15:1-11 they only need to know
a couple of key points, to wit: Jesus gave his life a ransom to protect sinners from
retribution and that his crucified dead body was restored to life within three days.

Baptism is neither mentioned nor emphasized in that passage so i think it's safe to
assume the ritual isn't essential to salvation.

FAQ: How might an someone obtain this ransom about which you speak?

REPLY: First off; it's necessary to be agreeable with Paul's two key points listed
above.

● 1Cor 15:1-2 . . Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to
you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel
you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you
have believed in vain.

If so; then find yourself some privacy, any place will do. Cover your face with your
hands; it will give you a sense of connection. In your own words, out loud or under
your breath, tell God you've never yet met his standards and you're pretty sure you
never will. Tell Him you'd like to take advantage of His son's death to protect
yourself from retribution.
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Isn’t that “doing what is right in your own eyes”? Because what you are suggesting is not found anywhere in the scriptures. 2 Tim. 3:16 tells us that God’s word is complete and thoroughly equips us with all that we need. God has told us in his word what to do to be saved. Saul of Tarsus was in a private place for 3 days praying , but Ananias told him he still had his sins and told him what to do to “wash them away.” Acts 22:16.

When the Jews in Acts 2 asked Peter what they needed to do, Peter said to “repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins.” He didn’t tell them to get in a private place and pray.

In Mark 16:16 Jesus said to “believe and be baptized” and they would be saved. Why not just tell people what God says? What the Bible says?

The gospel includes all of the teachings of Jesus. And we have just seen where Jesus told us what to do to be saved in Mark 16:16– believe and be baptized. Paul said that they ( the apostles) “had the mind of Christ.” 1 Cor. 2:16. So anything that an apostle said or wrote in the Bible was inspired by God and written by the Holy Spirit. 2 Tim 3:16 says that ALL scripture is inspired by God. I am amazed that you would treat Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John as something so less important that we would not need to “be familiar with all the information contained in them.” Romans 10:17 says we get faith by hearing the word of God. John says he specifically wrote His book so that people would believe that Jesus is the Son of God. John 20:30. Paul tells Timothy to “study” and he did not exclude Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. These books are called “the gospels.”and There is a lot of good information in them. They contain the life of Christ. We strengthen our faith when we read them. Maybe if you knew what was in Matthew, you would know that Jesus COMMANDED his disciples to go into all the world and teach and “BAPTIZE” the ones who obey.

Baptism is part of the “gospel” and I can prove it by the scriptures. In Acts 8, Phillip preached “Jesus” to the eunuch; a man from Ethiopia who had never heard of Jesus. Wouldn’t you say that Phillip taught him the “gospel”? And when they came to water, the eunuch said , “ Here is water. What hinders me from being BAPTIZED! So, how did he know to be baptized?? The only way he could possibly know he needed to be baptized was by Phillip’’s preaching about “Jesus.” Baptism is part of the gospel of Jesus.

In Acts 16, Paul had a Roman gentile in a city in Asia ask him what he needed to do to be saved. This man was hundreds of miles from Jerusalem. He had no knowledge of Jesus or who He was. In verse 32, Paul and Silas “spoke the word of the Lord to him”. And guess what the next verse says? He and all of his house were BAPTIZED IMMEDIATELY. How did they know about baptism?? How did they know to be baptized? The only way they could have known was by what Paul and Silas told them when they spoke God’s word to them. Baptism is part of the gospel of Christ —and it is a very important part; so important that both Phillip the evangelist and the apostle Paul both included it in their teaching the gospel to unsaved people. That doesn’t sound like to me that baptism is unnecessary to salvation. Just because baptism is not mentioned in 1 Cor. 15:1-11 does not prove that it was not necessary. You will not find all of the teachings of Christ in just one verse. Psalms 119:160 tells us that ALLof God’s word is TRUTH. And we are to add it all together and take the “sum” of it. All or nothing! One scripture will not get you to heaven.

 

[Webers.Home]

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I've been active on nigh unto +/- 50 different Bible forums since we got an
internet-capable computer back in 1997. The thing is: I don't know why, in
all that time, it's been only very recently that it occurred to me to make
"altar calls" --in other words to encourage folks to begin cultivating a rapport
with God and His son.

In Matt 7:22-23 a number of believers will be denied access to Messiah's
kingdom solely on the basis that Christ never knew them. Well it's my guess
that those folks failed to connect with Jesus. In other words: they believed in
God's son but never responded to his invitations, for example:

● Matt 11:28-30 . . Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I
will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am
gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my
yoke is easy and my burden is light.

● John 4:10-14 . .If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for
a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living
water.

● John 7:37 . . On the last and greatest day of the Feast, Jesus stood and
said in a loud voice: If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink!

● Rev 22:17 . .The Spirit and the bride say: Come! And let him who hears
say: Come! Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him
take the free gift of the water of life.

● Heb 4:16 . . Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that
we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

When the Bible says "come" and/or "ask" it expects hearers to respond with
an RSVP.

● John 5:39 . . .You diligently study the scriptures because you think that by
them you possess eternal life. These are the scriptures that testify about
me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.
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