The final statement of Brad Sigmon, executed in South Carolina 3/7/25

[rrcn]

God executed his death penalty all throughout the old testament. God even engaged his chosen people to do so on his behalf.

Unless or until the human individual is led by God to his salvation,every person born is facing his eternal death penalty in Hell. Because we are also born dead in our sin nature.

Jesus was executed under the Roman death penalty. Because the Jewish leaders in the temple could not enforce their own death penalty upon him.

This thread discusses a man who took a baseball bat and beat the parents of his ex girlfriend to death. Imagine what is lacking in a person's conscience and moral fiber so to do that. Beat a woman to death with a bat. And then went on to beat her husband to death.

Then he whines about being shot to death as the penalty for his crime of double murder.

When,had he been given a life without parole sentence he would have been a threat to everyone in prison. Staff and inmates alike.

And he would have been let to live using the tax dollars of his victims surviving family and friends. Feeding the man who beat your mommy and daddy to death with a baseball bat for the rest of his life. Decades!

He knew what he was planning. He followed through and knew what he was doing with every swing. He didn't stop until they were destroyed at his hand.

He wanted to destroy his ex. So he did that be destroying her parents.

Who could imagine what those two poor souls went through. God rest them in peace.

Brad Sigmon issued the death penalty with his two hands and a baseball bat.
In a state where he knew the DP was law.

He chose to be executed with the first swing of the bat in his hands.

And when the firing squad pulled the triggers a single bullet struck his heart. He was dead instantly and before he hit the ground.

How long did it take his victims to perish with each strike of his bat?

Now, Brad will answer to God.
He earned that too.

The point of this post was that there isn't any sin that God can't forgive except blaspheme against the Holy Ghost. Maybe with the years he had to dwell on his sin he repented and asked for forgiveness and mercy from the Lord. The wording of his statement implies he was aware of his sins and became a Christian.

Mar 3:29 KJV
But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Luk 12:10 KJV
And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.


Isa 1:18 KJV
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
Isa 55:7 KJV
Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Eze 33:11 KJV
Say unto them, [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
1Ti 1:13 KJV
Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did [it] ignorantly in unbelief.
1Jo 5:16 KJV
If any man see his brother sin a sin [which is] not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

 

[bluejean_bible]

The point of this post was that there isn't any sin that God can't forgive except blaspheme against the Holy Ghost.

Forgiveness was part of it. However,the OP mostly addressed the old testament law and punishment. And then referred to the new code.

I see what is being overlooked is Romans 13.

Starting in verse 4 the death penalty is addressed and warned of. Not renounced nor cancelled.

In verse 4 the sword is metonymic. It speaks of government and its right to enforce the death penalty.

Romans 13:4 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except by God’s appointment,and the authorities that exist have been instituted by God. 2 So the person who resists such authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will incur judgment 3 (for rulers cause no fear for good conduct but for bad). Do you desire not to fear authority? Do good and you will receive its commendation 4 because it is God’s servant for your well-being. But be afraid if you do wrong because government does not bear the sword for nothing. It is God’s servant to administer punishment on the person who does wrong. 5 Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of the wrath of the authorities but also because of your conscience.

Maybe with the years he had to dwell on his sin he repented and asked for forgiveness and mercy from the Lord. The wording of his statement implies he was aware of his sins and became a Christian.

Mar 3:29 KJV
But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Luk 12:10 KJV
And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.


Isa 1:18 KJV
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
Isa 55:7 KJV
Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Eze 33:11 KJV
Say unto them, [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
1Ti 1:13 KJV
Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did [it] ignorantly in unbelief.
1Jo 5:16 KJV
If any man see his brother sin a sin [which is] not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

 

[rrcn]

Forgiveness was part of it. However,the OP mostly addressed the old testament law and punishment. And then referred to the new code.

I see what is being overlooked is Romans 13.

Starting in verse 4 the death penalty is addressed and warned of. Not renounced nor cancelled.

In verse 4 the sword is metonymic. It speaks of government and its right to enforce the death penalty.

Romans 13:4 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except by God’s appointment,and the authorities that exist have been instituted by God. 2 So the person who resists such authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will incur judgment 3 (for rulers cause no fear for good conduct but for bad). Do you desire not to fear authority? Do good and you will receive its commendation 4 because it is God’s servant for your well-being. But be afraid if you do wrong because government does not bear the sword for nothing. It is God’s servant to administer punishment on the person who does wrong. 5 Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of the wrath of the authorities but also because of your conscience.

I never intended to remotely imply that I disagreed with the death penalty. Rather, that every sinner can be forgiven for the sins they forsake and repent of.

 

[bluejean_bible]

I never intended to remotely imply that I disagreed with the death penalty. Rather, that every sinner can be forgiven for the sins they forsake and repent of.

This a Christian community.
Reiteration is unnecessary. We know this. God told us so.

 

[rrcn]

This a Christian community.
Reiteration is unnecessary. We know this. God told us so.

That is the gospel, we talk about it all the time.

 

[bluejean_bible]

That is the gospel, we talk about it all the time.

I'm glad you agree.

 

[Gideon300]

As Paul also did with the beast (thugs) he likely slew at Ephesus (1 Cor 15:32) to only conclude, ''No profit''. But, the soldier and civil authority amongst the people have real-time sanctioning from Rm 13 to take swift action if in fact that perpetrator is heedless. In that case, ''Mercy triumphs over judgement'' who wielded no mercy (while we were dead in trespasses Christ forgave us too) before, but had the sense to back off. By God, and if it was godly authority at the time, that authority would find NO justification for the halls of justice to strike from within the new covenant. Only for those maintainers of public tranquility.

I am not following you. Are you saying that Paul killed people after he was saved? I see nothing in God's word to suggest that. God has the principle of sowing and reaping. That applies to believers as well as the lost.

 

[rrcn]

I'm glad you agree.

Agree?

 

[maxwel]

Any other day of the week, it would be, ''My thoughts are not your thoughts'' says the Lord. Where did that go?

So, it's no longer ''Thy will'', but, 'my will' be done! That right? So, you see my invitation don't you? One that leaves reasoning this out with God's revenge and just punishment. Where in the NT will you find God carrying out His own justice upon those who take another's life? Babylon.

''In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people, of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.''(Rev 18:24)​

And you aren't capable of carrying out His level of revenge (v21) upon so much bloodshed. Oh I see, you have feelings of 'this level of heinous crime requires a separate punishment.' Really? Then what happened to the Spirit's all-inclusive precept, ,

''For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.'' (Jms 2:10)​

Yep, you still hanging in there? There's that nasty left hook by our Lord against canal thinking, , I'm also guilty of the thing your wanting to take out on everyone who lifts his hand upon another living soul, purely by association of verse 10.

“He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” (Jn 8:7)​

If all that is the case, I can't impose death on someone even if for justice because of my sin, unless I want to say in contrary fashion, ,
Life for life? Impossible to repay.

The death penalty, as a form of punishment available to the state, is IN THE BIBLE.


You've expressed many views that are either unbiblical or so circuitous and nonsensical as to suggest you don't even understand them yourself...
that leaves me unsurprised by your unbiblical response.


But we're all free to express our opinions.
Thanks for sharing, and I hope you have a great week.
.

 

[Gideon300]

Any other day of the week, it would be, ''My thoughts are not your thoughts'' says the Lord. Where did that go?

So, it's no longer ''Thy will'', but, 'my will' be done! That right? So, you see my invitation don't you? One that leaves reasoning this out with God's revenge and just punishment. Where in the NT will you find God carrying out His own justice upon those who take another's life? Babylon.

''In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people, of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.''(Rev 18:24)​

And you aren't capable of carrying out His level of revenge (v21) upon so much bloodshed. Oh I see, you have feelings of 'this level of heinous crime requires a separate punishment.' Really? Then what happened to the Spirit's all-inclusive precept, ,

''For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.'' (Jms 2:10)​

Yep, you still hanging in there? There's that nasty left hook by our Lord against canal thinking, , I'm also guilty of the thing your wanting to take out on everyone who lifts his hand upon another living soul, purely by association of verse 10.

“He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” (Jn 8:7)​

If all that is the case, I can't impose death on someone even if for justice because of my sin, unless I want to say in contrary fashion, ,
Life for life? Impossible to repay.

By your thinking, there should be no punishment for any crime. How many people would turn to crime if there were no consequences? It would be chaos. That is happening in Australia right now. Youth crime is an epidemic in some towns. The police charge the offenders and the courts release them on bail. They reoffend, get caught, could care less and are back on the streets to offend again.

Some states have introduced compulsory bail laws that are intended to stop the cycle. Bleeding hearts complain about civil liberty abuses. Perhaps if it was their home invaded, their car hijacked, their business robbed every week, they would change their minds.

God has set the authorities in place. God authorises them to punish offenders. Paul was speaking when at the time when Rome ruled Israel. (Romans 13).

God hates rebellion. Check out the history of Israel around AD 65. Israel rebelled against Roman rule yet again. Did God step in to protect His people? No. The temple was destroyed. 50 years later, Israel rebelled again. Israel was destroyed. Look up how many Israelites perished at the hands of the Romans. Where was God? Why did He not destroy the Roman army? God used gentile idolators to punish His own people. The point of this is simple: don't mess with God. Gracious, merciful, loving and kind, yes. Revealing His wrath against the wicked: also yes.

 

[PAC-fit]

By your thinking, there should be no punishment for any crime.

Premature and a gross underestimation. Fact is, they would put ME away for the type of reforms I am convinced are sorely lacking. And believe me, what I have in mind would surpass ANY fear the class of murderous perps have experienced up to this point. Where does one begin? Glad you asked, but implementation of 2Thess 3:10, or else, it will be by the perps own choice for demise. Bible-based torment, not comfort is the reform of feared corrections.