The 'ELECT' vs 'Free-Choice'

[Genez]

Tell him, "שטן, יהוה גער בך"

No need to.....

In the first place, I hear that when you come together as a church, there are divisions among you, ​

and to some extent I believe it. No doubt there have to be factions among you to show which ​

of you have God’s approval." 1 Corinthians 11:18-19​

Let's just allow for God's process to finish its purpose..


grace and peace ...................

 

[Niki7]

well, this thread is slowly sinking into the sunset of gone on too long

please join me in another endeavor in the near future, where I will name everyone I wish to talk about in order to make the dreams of those who actually do so, come true

in the meantime, God actually does see the heart and the motives of everyone

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

That's not what I'm seeing. I just see a lack of genuine love. It's easier to put yokes on than take them off and tighten bonds than loosen them.

No well you haven't been on the recieving end of his ugly side every day for a month where as i have.

If i was pull up all the thread he posted to me there would be hundreds calling me evil a devil and a troll a witch a sorcerer a physic

Not just once but hundreds.

Whilst I always appreciate your devotion to being a peace maker cam and a person whos very tolerant, I know you don't like to see division.

But this person just will not quit.

As you've now noticed he threatening you with his God now.

It's not Christian Cameron, and whist i appreciate your approach.

And I've witnessed your patience and kindness many times I've read your posts and not even commented because I respect you as a person.

You took me the wrong way last week and I was quick enough to make you feel better.

Your my friend cam regardless of what we may not disagree on.

I can't stand self centred people Cameron

 

[brightfame52]

well a person can pick and choose verses they believe apply to their particular beliefs....OR....they can consider the whole biblical counsel

The Holy Spirit does not indwell someone who has not accepted Christ. there is not one indication in scripture that that occurs and there is no defense available for anyone to persuade others that He does

sounds like you don't understand how evil man is by nature.

 

[Cameron143]

No well you haven't been on the recieving end of his ugly side every day for a month where as i have.

If i was pull up all the thread he posted to me there would be hundreds calling me evil a devil and a troll a witch a sorcerer a physic

Not just once but hundreds.

Whilst I always appreciate your devotion to being a peace maker cam and a person whos very tolerant, I know you don't like to see division.

But this person just will not quit.

As you've now noticed he threatening you with his God now.

It's not Christian Cameron, and whist i appreciate your approach.

And I've witnessed your patience and kindness many times I've read your posts and not even commented because I respect you as a person.

You took me the wrong way last week and I was quick enough to make you feel better.

Your my friend cam regardless of what we may not disagree on.

I can't stand self centred people Cameron

Yes, we're friends. But Peter asked Jesus how many times are we to forgive offenses. So that's what one ought to do.
Believe it or not, we aren't put into people's lives to change them. They're put in our lives to change us. When you are able to stand self centered people, you probably won't notice so many.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

well, this thread is slowly sinking into the sunset of gone on too long

please join me in another endeavor in the near future, where I will name everyone I wish to talk about in order to make the dreams of those who actually do so, come true

in the meantime, God actually does see the heart and the motives of everyone

Why don't you tell what you truly believe niki.

What would you like people to believe most about being elect or elected or chosen.

Not what everyone thinks what you believe.

Im just asking you on the bases of what you believe.

Not to argue against whatever belief you have,

I'm giving you the opportunity to share.

I can't make out what anyone beliefs based on an argument,

When ever I come to believe a person it's normally on the bases they've shared a belief with me that hadn't come from a distressed person or an argument.

Normally when I talk to people face to face I never have arguments with people. Never

It's very rare, face to face when in with a confronting situation, you know I just raise my eyebrows nod my head, raise my hand up in stop possition and turn around.

Come on Niki tell me pls

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Yes, we're friends. But Peter asked Jesus how many times are we to forgive offenses. So that's what one ought to do.
Believe it or not, we aren't put into people's lives to change them. They're put in our lives to change us. When you are able to stand self centered people, you probably won't notice so many.

lol Cameron in a perfect world maybe but where a long way of


This time next year's we could even be in the days of mad max.

Where there's a world wide shortage of food, and it becomes dog eat dog.

What would you do then.

Because when they come to steal
And destroy you, and preaching the gospel don't work what then

What if you where the only Christian left on earth instructed By God to notice the self centred people and to stay alive at all costs

You know Cameron I appreciate you helping me to forget lol but I can't drop my guard

Lol Cameron I'm not sure about this calling to be equally yoked to self centred people

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Believe it or not, we aren't put into people's lives to change them. They're put in our lives to change us.

you'll have to show me that in scripture lol.

 

[Cameron143]

lol Cameron in a perfect world maybe but where a long way of


This time next year's we could even be in the days of mad max.

Where there's a world wide shortage of food, and it becomes dog eat dog.

What would you do then.

Because when they come to steal
And destroy you, and preaching the gospel don't work what then

What if you where the only Christian left on earth instructed By God to notice the self centred people and to stay alive at all costs

You know Cameron I appreciate you helping me to forget lol but I can't drop my guard

Lol Cameron I'm not sure about this calling to be equally yoked to self centred people

At least you can laugh. And I never worry about the future...God always provides for His people. If he could keep the people's clothes from wearing out for 40 years in the desert, I'm sure He can keep my belly full.

 

[Cameron143]

you'll have to show me that in scripture lol.

Proverbs 27:17-22.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

At least you can laugh. And I never worry about the future...God always provides for His people. If he could keep the people's clothes from wearing out for 40 years in the desert, I'm sure He can keep my belly full.

well ok you know I suppose lol.
.
He could send you a beautiful raven to feed you some food.

You know those ravens are pretty beautiful up where I live.

I have one that Flys on my widow ledge with a pure green eyes every day, it pecks on my window untill I feed it some crumbs

I always leave bread on my windows ledge and we have about 10 ravens nesting close by.

 

[Cameron143]

well ok you know I suppose lol.
.
He could send you a beautiful raven to feed you some food.

You know those ravens are pretty beautiful up where I live.

I have one that Flys on my widow ledge with a pure green eyes every day, it pecks on my window untill I feed it some crumbs

I always leave bread on my windows ledge and we have about 10 ravens nesting close by.

This works. I already have a brook

 

[Niki7]

sounds like you don't understand how evil man is by nature.

all I hear is 'let's have a fight'

be glad to, but you would whine when I hit you with the appropriate scripture

you have a problem with considering scripture as a whole, rather than the dissected parts of Calvinism and the fab 5?

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Proverbs 27:17-22.

well I'm a firm believer that I can't save anyone lol.

As for removing there folly

I find the only way to remove folly from bullies is to pick them up and chuck them out.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

This works. I already have a brook

I have been a bit hard on you lately, but ive come to respect you now.

But I'm sorry for being hard on you.

I just have my ways Cameron

And you have yours.

Tho I do appreciate having people around like you,

Be blessed son

 

[Cameron143]

I have been a bit hard on you lately, but ive come to respect you now.

But I'm sorry for being hard on you.

I just have my ways Cameron

And you have yours.

Tho I do appreciate having people around like you,

Be blessed son

I appreciate the apology, but it's never necessary.

 

[Magenta]

It's not uncommon for people who have been saved for some time to look back on their lives and see instances where God had come in part and put His mark on them long before they were actually saved.
I've seen God place these spiritual markers on my own children.

I never needed to look back to realize what happened. At the time, it was one of the most
profound things I had ever experienced in my life, and I even wrote poems about it in the
late eighties after "it" happened. I just wasn't a believer then and did not lay down my
opposition to God for another fifteen years... while attending an Alpha Course. At least
a couple of those poems are in my poetry thread, which was where I introduced myself .

 

[Cameron143]

I never needed to look back to realize what happened. At the time, it was one of the most
profound things I had ever experienced in my life, and I even wrote poems about it in the
late eighties after "it" happened. I just wasn't a believer then and did not lay down my
opposition to God for another fifteen years... while attending an Alpha Course. At least
a couple of those poems are in my poetry thread, which was where I introduced myself .

Do you have a link?

 

[HeIsHere]

Saul had a choice. He could have remained proud and Blind.

This no one has a choice stuff is not true

Yes I would agree.

19So then, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision.

 

[Magenta]

Do you have a link?

In my siggy, very bottom .