*THE BEWITCHING HOUR?*

[Blain]

But His focus was not Deliverance Ministry, it was preaching The Kingdom of God, and coming to be The Lamb of God for our Sins. Yes he caste out demons, but it was not the focus on any of the Gospels, or even the Epistles.

True very true so do you think we should not discuss such matters?

 

[Daisy2]

I will always contend with those who misrepresent scripture and twist it or add to it. I have struggled plenty and overcome. It would be wise if people who do not know others kept their judgemental comments to themself.

If you still see yourself as a dog, I would suggest a good study of who we are in Christ.

ps: Jesus did not wander in the desert. He made Himself very visible.

I do not owe you or the other person any explanation of who I am or what I do or have done. I don't really know you or Blain and I do not believe in his demonic exploits as I am sure many others who know the subject don't either. It appears he will defend his stories forever though and I quite expect him to do so.

One thing lacking in this forum and certainly this thread, is focusing on Jesus. Demons though? Oh yeah. Lets' talk about those and tell each scary stories. Not playing

I'm sorry if you think I was casting judgment on you I was not. There are two ways of discussing the bible as I was taught. Like dog's is the first. The second is of two pastors putting their heads together and trying to understand what those passages really mean. Jesus walked the desert for 40 days contending with the devil. Even our Lord had to contend with the devil and yet as his servants you think we don't also?

 

[Blain]

I'm sorry if you think I was casting judgment on you I was not. There are two ways of discussing the bible as I was taught. Like a dog's is the first. The second is of two pastors putting there heads together and trying to really understand what those paspassag mean. Jesus walked the desert for 40 days contending with the devil. Even our Lord had to contend with the devil and yet as his servants you think we don't also?

You were not insulting I think it was a reaction to the distain towards me and they blew up on you, your a very sweet person and would never insult anyone like that

 

[Daisy2]

You were not insulting I think it was a reaction to the distain towards me and they blew up on you, your a very sweet person and would never insult anyone like that

Thank you for your kind words I really appreciate it. Honestly, I don’t see myself that way, but it means a lot coming from you. I actually think you’re the one who’s truly amazing being a faithful and diligent worker in christ in situations like this. The bible says that they will be people to prove us. And I often think God has us in situations where there is good evil is usually present.

 

[ocean]

You were not insulting I think it was a reaction to the distain towards me and they blew up on you, your a very sweet person and would never insult anyone like that

So you have an audience of one and take the opportunity to falsely accuse me of having distain towards you. Shame on you Blain.

You leave me with a very cold feeling towards you. Your passive aggressive post indicates you are not able to be what you tell others they should be. Even if a person lacks discernment, they can read how you have manipulated some here and when you don't succeed you turn snarky as you did here.

You seem quite good at dividing people and misrepresenting them. You are a legend in your own mind.

 

[ocean]

I'm sorry if you think I was casting judgment on you I was not. There are two ways of discussing the bible as I was taught. Like dog's is the first. The second is of two pastors putting their heads together and trying to understand what those passages really mean. Jesus walked the desert for 40 days contending with the devil. Even our Lord had to contend with the devil and yet as his servants you think we don't also?

I plainly stated I have overcome and who do we overcome but the devil and all that involves. Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil...that is scripture.

Honestly the level of incomprehension and a desire to play games with some people here is a real turn off.

I guess by now Blain is sending you pm's? Yeah I know about that. As I like to say...you do you. I am not interested.

 

[Blain]

Thank you for your kind words I really appreciate it. Honestly, I don’t see myself that way, but it means a lot coming from you. I actually think you’re the one who’s truly amazing being a faithful and diligent worker in christ in situations like this. The bible says that they will be people to prove us. And I often think God has us in situations where there is good evil is usually present.

Thank you I appreciate your encouraging words. We may at times come across situations like this and how you respond is the important thing we must live by the fruits of the spirit not our emotions or feelings.

 

[Blain]

So you have an audience of one and take the opportunity to falsely accuse me of having distain towards you. Shame on you Blain.

You leave me with a very cold feeling towards you. Your passive aggressive post indicates you are not able to be what you tell others they should be. Even if a person lacks discernment, they can read how you have manipulated some here and when you don't succeed you turn snarky as you did here.

You seem quite good at dividing people and misrepresenting them. You are a legend in your own mind.

You can say what you will, you have made plenty of false accusations towards me already if I misunderstood your feelings towards you I apologize but dividing people? how have I divided anyone? my purpose is to encourage and bring others together towards Christ that is why I mention the fruits of the spirit that is why I posted the scriptures I did earlier and it is why I respind to you not with anger or resentment but with patience because we are to be examples to others
many read our posts and words have inflience so if you go by that logic then we need to be careful in what we say and how we say it.

Showing the fruits of the spirit

 

[Blain]

I plainly stated I have overcome and who do we overcome but the devil and all that involves. Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil...that is scripture.

Honestly the level of incomprehension and a desire to play games with some people here is a real turn off.

I guess by now Blain is sending you pm's? Yeah I know about that. As I like to say...you do you. I am not interested.

Actually no I am not sending her pm's and your negatave attitude towards @Daisy2 is uncalled for. and honestly for that matter what pm I send is none of your concern and how you would know I send pm's I don't know but no I have not sent her a pm

 

[ocean]

True very true so do you think we should not discuss such matters?

You should have stayed with the op and not diverted it to your own persuasions

You can say what you will, you have made plenty of false accusations towards me already if I misunderstood your feelings towards you I apologize but dividing people? how have I divided anyone? my purpose is to encourage and bring others together towards Christ that is why I mention the fruits of the spirit that is why I posted the scriptures I did earlier and it is why I respind to you not with anger or resentment but with patience because we are to be examples to others
many read our posts and words have inflience so if you go by that logic then we need to be careful in what we say and how we say it.

Showing the fruits of the spirit

Self righteousness at work. I said I do not believe all your demon stories. That, is not an accusation. That, is a fact. I do not believe all your demon stories. You sure do create alot of drama Blain. I never offered logic. I offered THE FACT I do not believe all your wild demon stories. You cannot rewrite what I said. That is also a fact and not an accusation.

Actually no I am not sending her pm's and your negatave attitude towards @Daisy2 is uncalled for. and honestly for that matter what pm I send is none of your concern and how you would know I send pm's I don't know but no I have not sent her a pm

Please quit your virtue signalling.

 

[Blain]

You should have stayed with the op and not diverted it to your own persuasions



Self righteousness at work. I said I do not believe all your demon stories. That, is not an accusation. That, is a fact. I do not believe all your demon stories. You sure do create alot of drama Blain. I never offered logic. I offered THE FACT I do not believe all your wild demon stories. You cannot rewrite what I said. That is also a fact and not an accusation.




Please quit your virtue signalling.

The whole not believing my sotries thing is not the accusations I am talking about and anyways I already said you can discard them and just answer the question I asked you refused to do so and then proceeded to accuse me of having alternate motives when I simply asked a simple question from there it all went downhill and I never once responded to you in a rude way like you claimed as for my virtue signalling I am simply responding how we ought to you can say what you want about my character I answer to God not you.

however when you begin to act this way towards others especially @Daisy2 who is very kind in heart that is when I take issue with you.
You owe her an an apology and by the way your assumption that I pm her was way off and I have no clue how you even came to that conclussion

So if your done then we can end this here but if not I will not engae in in your argumentive words either have the maturity to discuss things in a christ like manner or not but do not go after other people your beef is with me not them

 

[SirSolaScriptura]

Just a friendly reminder, "speak the truth in love," (Ephesians 4:15) and "If you bite and devour one another, watch out that you are not consumed by one another." (Galatians 5:15).

Its fine to debate the content, and take on a point of view, but remember we all are Children of God.

 

[ocean]

The whole not believing my sotries thing is not the accusations I am talking about and anyways I already said you can discard them and just answer the question I asked you refused to do so and then proceeded to accuse me of having alternate motives when I simply asked a simple question from there it all went downhill and I never once responded to you in a rude way like you claimed as for my virtue signalling I am simply responding how we ought to you can say what you want about my character I answer to God not you.

however when you begin to act this way towards others especially @Daisy2 who is very kind in heart that is when I take issue with you.
You owe her an an apology and by the way your assumption that I pm her was way off and I have no clue how you even came to that conclussion

So if your done then we can end this here but if not I will not engae in in your argumentive words either have the maturity to discuss things in a christ like manner or not but do not go after other people your beef is with me not them

You wish to end the exchange on your narrative but your words are not truthful Blain. You demanded to know if I had ever dealt with a demon or had any experience in dealing with demons and you did this because how dare I question your demon stories. This was between you and I but you have now pulled someone else into your rhetoric and are trying to make this all about how cruel and nasty I was to her in order to take the focus off of yourself.

Your simple question was not polite and it was not simple. You demanded things from me in order to 'show' what you believe is some kind of superior knowledge of the demonic so that I would go into some corner and not question YOU. You have reversed or tried to reverse what is really going on here and if we were face to face I would say far more than what I have said in this forum. But this IS a forum, with rules and a certain amount of decorum expected so I say nothing other than I don't believe your stories.

It was from that moment on that your attitude changed and you became belligerent towards me when I would not show you my 'credentials' which are useless here anyway since I could say anything and it may or may not be true. Same holds true for you or anyone else here.

And yes, I also hold to what I said about your virtue signalling. You know some scripture and you use it to point at others such as telling me about the fruit of the Spirit. And again, you are now USING another person like a shield between you and me to put the focus on something...anything...but the real questions which would be why someone supposedly has all these demonic manifestations and says things like Jesus appears to you personally and fights for you etc etc.

Paul said, in speaking to believers of his time, that we know the wiles of the devil. We are not ignorant of them. He never once said that no worries Jesus gonna appear in your room and kick the ole devil in the who ha and you good.

WE have power over the enemy ONLY in the name of Jesus. And this I will write in caps because it is the truth that you do NOT seem to know.

THE BATTLE IS NOT A PHYSICAL BATTLE. IT IS NOT A POWER STRUGGLE. IT IS A TRUTH BATTLE ON THE BASIS OF THE VICTORY OF JESUS

Do I expect you to actually acknowledge any of the above? No I do not. You are well practiced in how you relate to your stories and talk to people and enjoy all that attention that comes from your renditions. Do I have experience? Oh I sure do and that is why I know what is really going on here. Your tactic here is to put me on the defensive but I have nothing to defend. What I said is the truth and you do not find room for that in your demonic stories which bring no glory to God but do, however, garner you plenty of attention.

I really do not care how much you huff and puff or how you try to appear like a little lamb. You say you take issue with me and I have seen where you have said to others that they had better not say anything about so and so because then they will deal with you. I am not as new to this forum as it appears on my bio so I have seen quite a bit from you but have not really engaged you before.

So how are you going to deal with me Blain? Huh? Those are just words too with no substance. Others just back off and leave you be because it's like talking to a wall trying to get behind the Blain story telling hour. But you have a choice. It is your choice and not mine but sadly I am pretty sure what the outcome will be.

You don't have to wrestle with demons (if you are). Jesus has provided the victory over them.

I am not going to address you anymore, in case you have managed to read this far. I don't have to deal with you or someone like you on a daily basis so I am content to leave you where you are at. Jesus is our peace but it sounds like you don't have much of it. This thread was never about demons but that is what it has become. I have seen you introduce demons into more than one thread and I think it sad that you do that and encourage people to talk all about these activities.

I am simply responding how we ought to you can say what you want about my character I answer to God not you.

While on this earth, we do answer to other Christians and especially those whom God has chosen to lead or has extended gifts to for the building up of the body of Christ. There should be no lone rangers or those who demand answers or else and so on. Saying you only answer to God is typical of someone who takes no instruction and thinks they are somehow 'special'.

But you have a choice as do we all and you are free to talk about demons all you want. But no longer with me. I choose to end this fruitless exhange and I will not engage you again as that is obviously your preference. No worries.

 

[SirSolaScriptura]

You wish to end the exchange on your narrative but your words are not truthful Blain. You demanded to know if I had ever dealt with a demon or had any experience in dealing with demons and you did this because how dare I question your demon stories. This was between you and I but you have now pulled someone else into your rhetoric and are trying to make this all about how cruel and nasty I was to her in order to take the focus off of yourself.

Your simple question was not polite and it was not simple. You demanded things from me in order to 'show' what you believe is some kind of superior knowledge of the demonic so that I would go into some corner and not question YOU. You have reversed or tried to reverse what is really going on here and if we were face to face I would say far more than what I have said in this forum. But this IS a forum, with rules and a certain amount of decorum expected so I say nothing other than I don't believe your stories.

It was from that moment on that your attitude changed and you became belligerent towards me when I would not show you my 'credentials' which are useless here anyway since I could say anything and it may or may not be true. Same holds true for you or anyone else here.

And yes, I also hold to what I said about your virtue signalling. You know some scripture and you use it to point at others such as telling me about the fruit of the Spirit. And again, you are now USING another person like a shield between you and me to put the focus on something...anything...but the real questions which would be why someone supposedly has all these demonic manifestations and says things like Jesus appears to you personally and fights for you etc etc.

Paul said, in speaking to believers of his time, that we know the wiles of the devil. We are not ignorant of them. He never once said that no worries Jesus gonna appear in your room and kick the ole devil in the who ha and you good.

WE have power over the enemy ONLY in the name of Jesus. And this I will write in caps because it is the truth that you do NOT seem to know.

THE BATTLE IS NOT A PHYSICAL BATTLE. IT IS NOT A POWER STRUGGLE. IT IS A TRUTH BATTLE ON THE BASIS OF THE VICTORY OF JESUS

Do I expect you to actually acknowledge any of the above? No I do not. You are well practiced in how you relate to your stories and talk to people and enjoy all that attention that comes from your renditions. Do I have experience? Oh I sure do and that is why I know what is really going on here. Your tactic here is to put me on the defensive but I have nothing to defend. What I said is the truth and you do not find room for that in your demonic stories which bring no glory to God but do, however, garner you plenty of attention.

I really do not care how much you huff and puff or how you try to appear like a little lamb. You say you take issue with me and I have seen where you have said to others that they had better now say anything about so and so because then they will deal with you. I am not as new to this forum as it appears on my bio so I have seen quite a bit from you but have not really engaged you before.

So how are you going to deal with me Blain? Huh? Those are just words too with no substance. Others just back off and leave you be because it's like talking to a wall trying to get behind the Blain story telling hour. But you have a choice. It is your choice and not mine but sadly I am pretty sure what the outcome will be.

You don't have to wrestle with demons (if you are). Jesus has provided the victory over them.

I am not going to address you anymore, in case you have managed to read this far. I don't have to deal with you or someone like you on a daily basis so I am content to leave you where you are at. Jesus is our peace but it sounds like you don't have much of it. This thread was never about demons but that is what it has become. I have seen you introduce demons into more than one thread and I think it sad that you do that and encourage people to talk all about these activities.



While on this earth, we do answer to other Christians and especially those whom God has chosen to lead or has extended gifts to for the building up of the body of Christ. There should be no lone rangers or those who demand answers or else and so on. Saying you only answer to God is typical of someone who takes no instruction and thinks they are somehow 'special'.

But you have a choice as do we all and you are free to talk about demons all you want. But no longer with me.

"Greater is He who is in me than who is in the world," (1 John 4:8), and "Submit therefore to God, resist the devil and he shall flee." (James 4:7). Something to remind the devils is that God is in you and you in God, 'Anyone who confesses Jesus Christ as Son of God has God living in them and they live in God." (1 John 4:15). What can then stand against us?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I already stated that the hours mentioned, have their roots in superstition. Maybe do some research. Do you pray about what yr sister is up to? Bind those demons? Rebuke them in Jesus name? But don't do that if you are weak in your faith about such things or you will pay for it

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Demons have the power people, including believers, give them. You are sadly ignorant of what scripture states if you think once you become a believer its a one and done. YOU cannot send demons anywhere. ANY authority over them a believer has is in the name of the One who defeated the devil and his kingdom.

You have 'tried' to pray for her? First you state that yr sister does her 'magic' during certain hrs and now you say you sent the demons back to hell. You know, I honestly do not care much anymore about all the different and incorrect ways people think they have some kind of protocol from God to deal with the devil, but I do care for those who are actually struggling against things that hold them captive even though they believe.

Jesus paid the price.

pay for it? no, we have the authority in Christ the illusion that any demons have power is just that an illusion if one understands the authoirty Christ has given us in his name then no demon has any power over us they are weak and pathetic creatures lower than us in Christ.
I have tried to pray for her but she is set in her ways she will not recieve Christ but I have sent demons back to hell because she hates me and has sent curses against me all to no avail because I have Christ in me there is no power she or any demon has that can stand against those in Christ

“pay for it? no, we have the authority in Christ the illusion that any demons have power is just that an illusion if one understands the authoirty Christ has given us in his name then no demon has any power over us they are weak and pathetic creatures lower than us in Christ.”

“Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.”
‭‭Jude‬ ‭1:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I have tried to pray for her but she is set in her ways she will not recieve Christ but I have sent demons back to hell because she hates me and has sent curses against me all to no avail because I have Christ in me there is no power she or any demon has that can stand against those in Christ”

Amen but it’s specific to those in Christ who reject those other spirits in tbe world . Brother I sure don’t think the failure is on you nor tbat you are ignorant of scriptures. Like you accepted Christ there are other spirits in tbe world that fill up the vessels of humankind

If someone is actively willfully rejecting Christ and the gospel that’s not something another person can fix for them . The Lord can open her eyes however and then she may be receptive to your words I’ll pray for the lord to get her attention with you

 

[ocean]

I




“pay for it? no, we have the authority in Christ the illusion that any demons have power is just that an illusion if one understands the authoirty Christ has given us in his name then no demon has any power over us they are weak and pathetic creatures lower than us in Christ.”

“Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.”
‭‭Jude‬ ‭1:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I have tried to pray for her but she is set in her ways she will not recieve Christ but I have sent demons back to hell because she hates me and has sent curses against me all to no avail because I have Christ in me there is no power she or any demon has that can stand against those in Christ”

Amen but it’s specific to those in Christ who reject those other spirits in tbe world . Brother I sure don’t think the failure is on you nor tbat you are ignorant of scriptures. Like you accepted Christ there are other spirits in tbe world that fill up the vessels of humankind

If someone is actively willfully rejecting Christ and the gospel that’s not something another person can fix for them . The Lord can open her eyes however and then she may be receptive to your words I’ll pray for the lord to get her attention with you

Umm...you are quoting my post but that sister is not mine.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

You wish to end the exchange on your narrative but your words are not truthful Blain. You demanded to know if I had ever dealt with a demon or had any experience in dealing with demons and you did this because how dare I question your demon stories. This was between you and I but you have now pulled someone else into your rhetoric and are trying to make this all about how cruel and nasty I was to her in order to take the focus off of yourself.

Your simple question was not polite and it was not simple. You demanded things from me in order to 'show' what you believe is some kind of superior knowledge of the demonic so that I would go into some corner and not question YOU. You have reversed or tried to reverse what is really going on here and if we were face to face I would say far more than what I have said in this forum. But this IS a forum, with rules and a certain amount of decorum expected so I say nothing other than I don't believe your stories.

It was from that moment on that your attitude changed and you became belligerent towards me when I would not show you my 'credentials' which are useless here anyway since I could say anything and it may or may not be true. Same holds true for you or anyone else here.

And yes, I also hold to what I said about your virtue signalling. You know some scripture and you use it to point at others such as telling me about the fruit of the Spirit. And again, you are now USING another person like a shield between you and me to put the focus on something...anything...but the real questions which would be why someone supposedly has all these demonic manifestations and says things like Jesus appears to you personally and fights for you etc etc.

Paul said, in speaking to believers of his time, that we know the wiles of the devil. We are not ignorant of them. He never once said that no worries Jesus gonna appear in your room and kick the ole devil in the who ha and you good.

WE have power over the enemy ONLY in the name of Jesus. And this I will write in caps because it is the truth that you do NOT seem to know.

THE BATTLE IS NOT A PHYSICAL BATTLE. IT IS NOT A POWER STRUGGLE. IT IS A TRUTH BATTLE ON THE BASIS OF THE VICTORY OF JESUS

Do I expect you to actually acknowledge any of the above? No I do not. You are well practiced in how you relate to your stories and talk to people and enjoy all that attention that comes from your renditions. Do I have experience? Oh I sure do and that is why I know what is really going on here. Your tactic here is to put me on the defensive but I have nothing to defend. What I said is the truth and you do not find room for that in your demonic stories which bring no glory to God but do, however, garner you plenty of attention.

I really do not care how much you huff and puff or how you try to appear like a little lamb. You say you take issue with me and I have seen where you have said to others that they had better not say anything about so and so because then they will deal with you. I am not as new to this forum as it appears on my bio so I have seen quite a bit from you but have not really engaged you before.

So how are you going to deal with me Blain? Huh? Those are just words too with no substance. Others just back off and leave you be because it's like talking to a wall trying to get behind the Blain story telling hour. But you have a choice. It is your choice and not mine but sadly I am pretty sure what the outcome will be.

You don't have to wrestle with demons (if you are). Jesus has provided the victory over them.

I am not going to address you anymore, in case you have managed to read this far. I don't have to deal with you or someone like you on a daily basis so I am content to leave you where you are at. Jesus is our peace but it sounds like you don't have much of it. This thread was never about demons but that is what it has become. I have seen you introduce demons into more than one thread and I think it sad that you do that and encourage people to talk all about these activities.



While on this earth, we do answer to other Christians and especially those whom God has chosen to lead or has extended gifts to for the building up of the body of Christ. There should be no lone rangers or those who demand answers or else and so on. Saying you only answer to God is typical of someone who takes no instruction and thinks they are somehow 'special'.

But you have a choice as do we all and you are free to talk about demons all you want. But no longer with me. I choose to end this fruitless exhange and I will not engage you again as that is obviously your preference. No worries.

Can’t really blame someone for not wanting to be insulted and dismissed repeatedly as if they are ignorant

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Umm...you are quoting my post but that sister is not mine.

Yeah I was going to but then decided to reply to blain after I read some of what you were saying to him. So it was intended for blain

 

[wolfwint]

What do you think?

I think, that people today are very open for the spirit World. You find it in books, TV, movie. The longing for supernatural expieriences are growing. Even among believers. Satan and his Demons, becoming a positive looks like in the medias.
So everything works together for to make the way for the Antichrist and his rulership.

 

[ocean]

Can’t really blame someone for not wanting to be insulted and dismissed repeatedly as if they are ignorant

LOL! That hardly happened on either side. No one is going to 'fix' the demonic problem going on as the correct way to 'fix' it involves only the victory of Christ and no wrestling with demons in the dark and some 'Jesus' figure beating it up. Come on! Jesus NEVER EVER wrestled with a demon. He overcame the power of the devil through His blood and we do the same. We don't recount unbiblical histrionics and then sit back and wait for attention.

Just sayin'