The Antichrist

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iamsoandso said:
Consider this...

Revelation 20:6,before the next age...
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Rev.20:6 is referring to the resurrection of the great tribulation saints and takes place after Christ returns as revealed in Rev.19:11-21 and at the beginning of the millennial period i.e. the next age.

Revelation 19:20,,,before the next age...
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The above takes place after God's wrath and when Christ returns to the earth to end this age and establish the millennial period. As he returns he has the beast and the false prophet captured and thrown alive into the lake of fire. It is also when all of those kings, their armies and generals, etc., will be killed with that double-edged sword that proceeds from the Lord's mouth which is figurative of the word of God. Christ's return to the earth ends the age and begins the millennial age.


Revelation 20:3,,,,after the next age...
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Just curious, you identified Rev.20:6 as taking place before the next age, but you have Rev.20:3 as being after the next age?
Rev.20:3 is when Satan and his angels are bound in the Abyss, which takes place just as Christ returns to the earth to end the age and establish the millennial age and after the beast and the false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:12-15,,,after the next age...
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Rev.20:11-15 describes the great white throne judgment, which takes place at the end of the millennial age. This is where all of the unrighteous dead throughout all of history will be resurrected and be held accountable for all of their sins. Though people will have already been in punishment in Sheol/Hades, think of the great white throne as their official judgment

All of the scripture, except for Rev.20:11-15, takes place at the end of the age and the beginning of the millennial age
 
Ahwatukee said:
Rev.20:6 is referring to the resurrection of the great tribulation saints and takes place after Christ returns as revealed in Rev.19:11-21 and at the beginning of the millennial period i.e. the next age.



The above takes place after God's wrath and when Christ returns to the earth to end this age and establish the millennial period. As he returns he has the beast and the false prophet captured and thrown alive into the lake of fire. It is also when all of those kings, their armies and generals, etc., will be killed with that double-edged sword that proceeds from the Lord's mouth which is figurative of the word of God. Christ's return to the earth ends the age and begins the millennial age.




Just curious, you identified Rev.20:6 as taking place before the next age, but you have Rev.20:3 as being after the next age?
Rev.20:3 is when Satan and his angels are bound in the Abyss, which takes place just as Christ returns to the earth to end the age and establish the millennial age and after the beast and the false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire.



Rev.20:11-15 describes the great white throne judgment, which takes place at the end of the millennial age. This is where all of the unrighteous dead throughout all of history will be resurrected and be held accountable for all of their sins. Though people will have already been in punishment in Sheol/Hades, think of the great white throne as their official judgment

All of the scripture, except for Rev.20:11-15, takes place at the end of the age and the beginning of the millennial age
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Ahwatukee said:
Rev.20:6 is referring to the resurrection of the great tribulation saints and takes place after Christ returns as revealed in Rev.19:11-21 and at the beginning of the millennial period i.e. the next age.



The above takes place after God's wrath and when Christ returns to the earth to end this age and establish the millennial period. As he returns he has the beast and the false prophet captured and thrown alive into the lake of fire. It is also when all of those kings, their armies and generals, etc., will be killed with that double-edged sword that proceeds from the Lord's mouth which is figurative of the word of God. Christ's return to the earth ends the age and begins the millennial age.




Just curious, you identified Rev.20:6 as taking place before the next age, but you have Rev.20:3 as being after the next age?
Rev.20:3 is when Satan and his angels are bound in the Abyss, which takes place just as Christ returns to the earth to end the age and establish the millennial age and after the beast and the false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire.



Rev.20:11-15 describes the great white throne judgment, which takes place at the end of the millennial age. This is where all of the unrighteous dead throughout all of history will be resurrected and be held accountable for all of their sins. Though people will have already been in punishment in Sheol/Hades, think of the great white throne as their official judgment

All of the scripture, except for Rev.20:11-15, takes place at the end of the age and the beginning of the millennial age
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And post #157?,,,
 
Ahwatukee said:
The above is not parabolic language, but is meant to be interpreted in the literal sense. When you haphazardly apply symbolism to scripture information that is to be interpreted in the literal sense, you distort the word of God, which is what you have done here. If the plain literal sense makes good sense, then don't seek any other sense. That said, there is nothing in the scripture that would require a symbolic or parabolic interpretation.
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That has been the norm for churches and theologians in that if it does not say "parable" then stick with literal interpretation of what the Bible has to say in regards of certain passages. But they disregard their own rules and look at David as a type of Christ or Moses which is seen in Ex. 32:32.

There is sufficient enough evidence in the Bible to know without a shadow of a doubt that we should look at these passages along with that of the Bible as symbolic language and parabolic language, because every word of the Bible is God breathed and so we know that these are the words of God, God has proclaimed that his words are spiritual. [Jn. 6:63]

We know that God spoke in parabolic language or dark sayings in the O.T. as also in the N.T. [Ps. 78:2, Prov. 1:6, Mt. 13:34-35] yet to solidify this idea more God has said that we are to search out these ideas in which he has hidden in his word. [Prov. 25:2]

So as to this idea who is the Anti Christ is the Bible clearly shows us that he is the beast he is the son of perdition, lawless one...etc this can only point to Satan as he is the one that is control of the unsaved the ones who have his mark showing the fact that they belong to him and not of Christ. The Bible makes no mention of a famous person coming some where in the future to take control, he is here now.
 
Ahwatukee said:
This is also what people during the time of the mark are going claim. God knows I need to pay my bills, to buy gas, to feed my family, etc. During that time though, it will be time for those to take there stand and be prepared to keep their testimony of Jesus and the word of God and to resist the beast, his image and his mark, even unto death. Those who do receive it have only the following to look forward to:

“If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or hand, he too will drink the wine of God’s anger, poured undiluted into the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented in fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever. Day and night there will be no rest for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name.”
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And this is what so many people fail to see how serious this "mark" will be. The warnings are very clear and very blunt. So why there are pastors out there teaching the opposite is very very disturbing and worrying. And this is where all sorts of deceptive beliefs and teaching are going to come into place.

Such deceptive thinking and a mindset not understanding the seriousness of the times we are living, and not accepting how much worse things are going to get is going to leave many people open to deception. This kind of mentality such as follows will leave people open to deception and readily accept the "mark". For example:

- He will understand, I needed to provide my family
- He will understand, I had to pay my bills
- He will understand, I had to pay the rent

These above examples is an example of what people are going to have to deal with, BUT here is the reality, there is no room for compromise in this, it is either accept or reject. Those who accept for whatever reasons, think they are doing the right thing, but they are not, because they have compromised.
 
The Antichrist is a Person, a great Power, which have a big influence of the world.
...deadly wound was healed ...
 
Alertandawake said:
And this is what so many people fail to see how serious this "mark" will be. The warnings are very clear and very blunt. So why there are pastors out there teaching the opposite is very very disturbing and worrying.
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What is it exactly that some pastors are teaching?
 
When God delivered me from darkness over 4 decades ago there were numerous Believers speaking the truth, warning about the advent of deceivers and other Endtimes dangers. However, I since have witnessed a significant decline in the number of individuals warning about the Endtimes. What was once a popular topic is currently regarded as negative and counterproductive to the Believer's peace, prosperity, happiness, comfort, and "best life now" trend. I believe that it is actually more counterproductive to numerical growth in this time of Seeker and Emergent churches.
The blunt truth is that the overwhelming majority of professing Christians in our nation enjoy life in their self-ordered environments. Changes that involve any inconvenience or distraction from their delightful pastimes are not popular. They only want as much godliness as is required to be viewed as a valid Christian and then fill in the rest of their life with pleasing and comfortable things and activities. It appears that they are not convicted of yielding their minds and emotional systems over to stimulation by every form of entertainment of the world system. It is perplexing to witness professing Christians become possessed with delirium over sports and yet seldom respond to anointed preaching, teaching, writing, et cetera.
I view their compromise as extremely dangerous considering the period that we are in. The consequence is a permanently closed mind that cannot receive any critical information by the way of the eye or ear gates. The reality is that Christianity is critically stricken with heresy, and that the world system is near to being prepared for Antichrist. Those facts have completely escaped their detection. God in His great mercy continues to send people to warn them.
--Cedric H. Fisher
 
Nehemiah6 said:
Dualism and Pantheism are definitely not Bible truth. So you should check where you got these concepts from. Dualism originated with Zoroastrianism. Pantheism comes from Eastern religions (Hinduism, etc.).

Also, the Antichrist is a man -- "the Man of Sin" -- not a mere spirit. And because he is totally under the control of Satan, he would also be possessed by Satan (who is a spirit being).

Before Judas Iscariot betrayed Christ, Satan entered into him. Thus he was called "the Son of Perdition" (Damnation). This exact same title is also applied to the Antichrist.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that Man of Sin be revealed, the Son of Perdition (2 Thess 2:3, where I have capitalized the titles).
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Fake news indeed.
The antichrist has been referred to by many names:
Beast out of sea
The little horn
Man of sin
Why should we insist it must be a man and not a horn or a seven headed beast?
 
Trust me, we are deep into the Antichrist reign, we are almost done. There's nothing that is imminent- NOTHING.
 
ComeLordJesus said:
Does the end of the age mean the rapture, the tribulation, the second coming, and the judgment of the nations?
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Revelation 20:10,,,
The devil is not judged and cast into the lake of fire until after the mil./1000 years...
Some are cast into it and judged before the age ends some are judged after the next age,,,ect
The beast and the false prophet are before the mill,Rev. 19:20..,the devil and those in Rev. 20:12 are after the next age...
 
iamsoandso said:
Revelation 20:10,,,
The devil is not judged and cast into the lake of fire until after the mil./1000 years...
Some are cast into it and judged before the age ends some are judged after the next age,,,ect
The beast and the false prophet are before the mill,Rev. 19:20..,the devil and those in Rev. 20:12 are after the next age...
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Actually, the beast and the false prophet are thrown alive into the lake of fire at the beginning of the millennial age. When Jesus returns to the earth, the purpose is two-fold, one, to end the age and the other is to establish His millennial kingdom. They go hand in hand. That said, when Jesus returns to end the age and establish His millennial kingdom, the beast and false prophet are thrown alive into the lake of fire. Within the same event of the Lord's return, Satan and his angels are thrown into and restricted in the Abyss.

At the end of the millennial kingdom and after his last rebellion, Satan is then thrown into the lake of fire where the beast and the false will have been thrown into a thousand years earlier.

After that will be the great white throne judgment, where all of the unrighteous death throughout all of history will be resurrected and will stand before God where they will go through their official judicial proceedings, where the books will be opened and they will be held accountable for every sin they ever committed.
 
Ahwatukee said:
Actually, the beast and the false prophet are thrown alive into the lake of fire at the beginning of the millennial age. When Jesus returns to the earth, the purpose is two-fold, one, to end the age and the other is to establish His millennial kingdom. They go hand in hand. That said, when Jesus returns to end the age and establish His millennial kingdom, the beast and false prophet are thrown alive into the lake of fire. Within the same event of the Lord's return, Satan and his angels are thrown into and restricted in the Abyss.

At the end of the millennial kingdom and after his last rebellion, Sat,,,an is then thrown into the lake of fire where the beast and the false will have been thrown into a thousand years earlier.

After that will be the great white throne judgment, where all of the unrighteous death throughout all of history will be resurrected and will stand before God where they will go through their official judicial proceedings, where the books will be opened and they will be held accountable for every sin they ever committed.
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2 Thessalonian 2:3 ,,,right after the rebellion and him being revealed right?
 
iamsoandso said:
2 Thessalonian 2:3 ,,,right after the rebellion and him being revealed right?
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Hey iamsoandso,

Here is 2 Thesesalonians 2:3:

"Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness (the son of destruction) is revealed. He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God."

The above takes place in the middle of the seven years and will continue throughout the entire last 3 1/2 years of that seven year period. The antichrist/beast will set up the abomination in the temple in the middle of the seven years and at that time he will stand in the temple proclaiming himself to be God. At the end of that 3 1/2 years, Christ will return and that is when the antichrist/beast is thrown alive into the lake of fire. So, this takes place just prior to the millennial age.
 
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