Thanx for reading my story any insight would be appriciated :)

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{ إِنَّ رَبَّكُمُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلَّذِي خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلۡأَرۡضَ فِي سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٖ ثُمَّ ٱسۡتَوَىٰ عَلَى ٱلۡعَرۡشِۖ يُغۡشِي ٱلَّيۡلَ ٱلنَّهَارَ يَطۡلُبُهُۥ حَثِيثٗا وَٱلشَّمۡسَ وَٱلۡقَمَرَ وَٱلنُّجُومَ مُسَخَّرَٰتِۭ بِأَمۡرِهِۦٓۗ أَلَا لَهُ ٱلۡخَلۡقُ وَٱلۡأَمۡرُۗ تَبَارَكَ ٱللَّهُ رَبُّ ٱلۡعَٰلَمِينَ }
[Surah Al-Aʿrāf: 54]


Your Lord is God, who created the heavens and earth in six Days, then established Himself on the throne; He makes the night cover the day in swift pursuit; He created the sun, moon, and stars to be subservient to His command; all creation and command belong to Him. Exalted be God, Lord of all the worlds!

See how clear is this verse...
John looks like a gnostic book to me but ill read it today
 

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John looks like a gnostic book to me but ill read it today
even if you joined as a Muslim apologist, i am happy to hear that. may the Lord God give you eyes to see, and ears to hear, for Jesus' sake.
 
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even if you joined as a Muslim apologist, i am happy to hear that. may the Lord God give you eyes to see, and ears to hear, for Jesus' sake.
I recognize it as the true gospel thank you very much.. im studing it right now
 
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He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
-- John 8:47
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#85
Mirmengjes grupi.

Ne lidhje me Trinitetin, kjo eshte nji nga ato gjerat qe dun i cik me shume besim pasi llogjikisht eshte pak e veshtire me e kuptu ne ketu ne ket dimension qe ndodhemi.

Shife ket viden e shkurter ketu poshte, sepse eshte me shume vizuale per ta kuptuar si funksionojne dimensionet dhe Zoti i cili mund te hyje ose te dali si te doje neper diemnsione.
Ne jemi si peshku ne akuarium ne ket dimension.

 
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Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
-- John 10:34

{ ٱتَّخَذُوٓاْ أَحۡبَارَهُمۡ وَرُهۡبَٰنَهُمۡ أَرۡبَابٗا مِّن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ وَٱلۡمَسِيحَ ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ وَمَآ أُمِرُوٓاْ إِلَّا لِيَعۡبُدُوٓاْ إِلَٰهٗا وَٰحِدٗاۖ لَّآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَۚ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥ عَمَّا يُشۡرِكُونَ }
[Surah At-Tawbah: 31]

They take their rabbis and their monks as lords, as well as Christ, the son of Mary. But they were commanded to serve only one God: there is no god but Him; He is far above whatever they set up as His partners!
 
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{ وَقَالُواْ ٱتَّخَذَ ٱلرَّحۡمَٰنُ وَلَدٗا }
[Surah Maryam: 88]

The disbelievers say, ‘The Lord of Mercy has offspring.’
{ لَّقَدۡ جِئۡتُمۡ شَيۡـًٔا إِدّٗا }
[Surah Maryam: 89]
How terrible is this thing you assert:
{ تَكَادُ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتُ يَتَفَطَّرۡنَ مِنۡهُ وَتَنشَقُّ ٱلۡأَرۡضُ وَتَخِرُّ ٱلۡجِبَالُ هَدًّا }
[Surah Maryam: 90] see this
it almost causes the heavens to be torn apart, the earth to split asunder, the mountains to crumble to pieces,
{ أَن دَعَوۡاْ لِلرَّحۡمَٰنِ وَلَدٗا }
[Surah Maryam: 91]
that they attribute offspring to the Lord of Mercy.
{ وَمَا يَنۢبَغِي لِلرَّحۡمَٰنِ أَن يَتَّخِذَ وَلَدًا }
[Surah Maryam: 92]
It does not befit the Lord of Mercy [to have offspring]:
{ إِن كُلُّ مَن فِي ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلۡأَرۡضِ إِلَّآ ءَاتِي ٱلرَّحۡمَٰنِ عَبۡدٗا }
[Surah Maryam: 93]
there is no one in the heavens or earth who will not come to the Lord of Mercy as a servant-

My spirit is troubled by reading John but I will finish it
 
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This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
-- John 15:12
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This is great thanks old testament turn.
 

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Mesazhi qe un marr nga Davidi eshte "Mos u bofsh kurr si Davidi".
Davidi ka shumë karakteristika të mira/cilësore si dhe të cilat ju duket se i anashkaloni .:unsure::cry:
 

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I follow the religion of Adam Noah and Abraham they were not christians nor judaist tell me was Noah a christian or not?
The word Christian was not in use until the book of Acts, way after Adam, Noah, and/or Abraham.

Abraham was a Hebrew. Isaac was the son of promise, NOT Ishmael.

God called Isaac Abraham's only son more than once.

Probably why Islamists never say, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
 
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The word Christian was not in use until the book of Acts, way after Adam, Noah, and/or Abraham.

Abraham was a Hebrew. Isaac was the son of promise, NOT Ishmael.

God called Isaac Abraham's only son more than once.

Probably why Islamists never say, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
{ قُلۡ يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ هَادُوٓاْ إِن زَعَمۡتُمۡ أَنَّكُمۡ أَوۡلِيَآءُ لِلَّهِ مِن دُونِ ٱلنَّاسِ فَتَمَنَّوُاْ ٱلۡمَوۡتَ إِن كُنتُمۡ صَٰدِقِينَ }
[Surah Al-Jumuʿah: 6]
Say [Prophet], ‘You who follow the Jewish faith, if you truly claim that out of all people you alone are friends of God, then you should be hoping for death.’

I dont wanna be harsh but this are our Lord word.. Quran and bible says that we all are Noah's desendants this is proved by dna research.. So God basicaly loves all that Love Fear him Worship him and follow his commandments and books.. another verse that scares me is this prophecy: Every one of the People of the Book will definitely believe in him before his death.1 And on the Day of Judgment Jesus will be a witness against them.
Becouse his real commandment was to worship God not him
 

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Davidi ka shumë karakteristika të mira/cilësore si dhe të cilat ju duket se i anashkaloni .:unsure::cry:
People find different ways and events in the Bible which inspire them.
For me, David is not one of them and i have mentioned this a few other times in different topics.
He doesn't draw me to God basically, in fact, he pushes me away from God.
So, it is what it is. Thankfully, David is not all there is to know about the Bible and there are many other topics and events in there which inspire me.
 
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The word Christian was not in use until the book of Acts, way after Adam, Noah, and/or Abraham.

Abraham was a Hebrew. Isaac was the son of promise, NOT Ishmael.

God called Isaac Abraham's only son more than once.

Probably why Islamists never say, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Ishmael was the 1stborn right. He recieved a biv blessing
 

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Ishmael was the 1stborn right. He recieved a biv blessing
Ishmael was NOT the son of promise. You do realize God had promised Abraham and Sarah a child? It was NOT Ishmael.

The child of promise was from Sarah's womb... Sarah who had been barren and was well into old age.
 
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Thank you very much for your answers i found what i was looking for!

Now about the quran it says this about us: { وَمِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ قَالُوٓاْ إِنَّا نَصَٰرَىٰٓ أَخَذۡنَا مِيثَٰقَهُمۡ فَنَسُواْ حَظّٗا مِّمَّا ذُكِّرُواْ بِهِۦ فَأَغۡرَيۡنَا بَيۡنَهُمُ ٱلۡعَدَاوَةَ وَٱلۡبَغۡضَآءَ إِلَىٰ يَوۡمِ ٱلۡقِيَٰمَةِۚ وَسَوۡفَ يُنَبِّئُهُمُ ٱللَّهُ بِمَا كَانُواْ يَصۡنَعُونَ }
[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 14]
We also took a pledge from those who say, ‘We are Christians,’ but they too forgot some of what they were told to remember, so We stirred up enmity and hatred among them until the Day of Resurrection, when God will tell them what they have done.
I see whats happening now beetwin ukraine and russia may peace come to them as well in palestine and israel they were both orthodox christian nation yet they wage war against each other.. they were in my opinion brother nations with similar language faith culture now it seems that will never happen.. what happened to europe 2 ww christians fightin each other.. i think we should keep the commandments Love GOD with all your might and love other as yourself if We love Jesus as we should love GOD i think were screwed.. i found some insight on this link:https://beityeshua.com/matthew-chapter-25/
Sorry magenta for the debate im not good at argumenting or debating.
Ishmael did get blessings from our GOD that he will be a mighty nation and a curse that he will be against anybody and near to his brothers.. he even circumstised same day with Abraham I think he loved him because they builded the kabbah in Meccah. Love and Peace
 
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The Quran does not contain the word of God.
{ تَنزِيلُ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ مِنَ ٱللَّهِ ٱلۡعَزِيزِ ٱلۡعَلِيمِ }
[Surah Ghāfir: 2]
This Scripture is sent down from God, the Almighty, the All Knowing,
{ غَافِرِ ٱلذَّنۢبِ وَقَابِلِ ٱلتَّوۡبِ شَدِيدِ ٱلۡعِقَابِ ذِي ٱلطَّوۡلِۖ لَآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَۖ إِلَيۡهِ ٱلۡمَصِيرُ }
[Surah Ghāfir: 3]
Forgiver of sins and Accepter of repentance, severe in punishment, infinite in bounty. There is no god but Him; to Him is the ultimate return.
{ مَا يُجَٰدِلُ فِيٓ ءَايَٰتِ ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ فَلَا يَغۡرُرۡكَ تَقَلُّبُهُمۡ فِي ٱلۡبِلَٰدِ }
[Surah Ghāfir: 4]
It is only the disbelievers who dispute God’s revelations. [Prophet], do not be dazzled by their movements back and forth across the land.

Doesnt this seem as a prophecy to you?
 

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{ تَنزِيلُ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ مِنَ ٱللَّهِ ٱلۡعَزِيزِ ٱلۡعَلِيمِ }
[Surah Ghāfir: 2]
This Scripture is sent down from God, the Almighty, the All Knowing,
{ غَافِرِ ٱلذَّنۢبِ وَقَابِلِ ٱلتَّوۡبِ شَدِيدِ ٱلۡعِقَابِ ذِي ٱلطَّوۡلِۖ لَآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَۖ إِلَيۡهِ ٱلۡمَصِيرُ }
[Surah Ghāfir: 3]
Forgiver of sins and Accepter of repentance, severe in punishment, infinite in bounty. There is no god but Him; to Him is the ultimate return.
{ مَا يُجَٰدِلُ فِيٓ ءَايَٰتِ ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ فَلَا يَغۡرُرۡكَ تَقَلُّبُهُمۡ فِي ٱلۡبِلَٰدِ }
[Surah Ghāfir: 4]
It is only the disbelievers who dispute God’s revelations. [Prophet], do not be dazzled by their movements back and forth across the land.

Doesnt this seem as a prophecy to you?
Muhammed was not a prophet.
 
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Muhammed was not a prophet.
Peace be unto you He didnt know how to writte and read yet a revelation was send to him through angel Gabriel from God (
this explains from a jew what ALLAH means it literally means ELOHIM if you see genesis 1 In the beginning Elohim created) in the book he singed because all the quran is poetry literally recitation is mentioned how paradise would be the garden of Eden Firdeus etc, the size of paradise, what will be on it the day of judgment what will happen how will people react and behave and finally hell and its punishments and who will go to heaven and why and who will go to hell and why... if all these things doesnt seem a prophecy to you i can type more Im reading the whole bible again i invite you to read the quran but you will never belive in it exept GOD opens your heart or eyes or ears to it but whomever he wills not to listen to it he makes his/her chest tight as if going up to sky if you dont belive me try what am i saying..
 

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Peace be unto you He didnt know how to writte and read yet a revelation was send to him through angel Gabriel from God
He actually thought he was demon possessed but then allowed his wife and another relative
to convince him that it was Gabriel. You would think an angel would know Muhammed was
illiterate.
But he did not... hence telling Muhammed to write down what was said.