Just tell me what I have to look forward to. Anything?
Is this as good as it gets?
TEMPLE......TO BE OR NOT TO BE....THAT IS MY QUESTION!!!!!
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Is this as good as it gets?
Thats pretty much the size of this continuation theology heresy.
Oh and don't forget......according to "continuation theology", Israel has been kicked to the curb forever, no Second Coming earthly reign of Jesus evah, no millennium, no end to sin, no reversal of the curse on the ground, no swords being beaten into plowshares......
Such is the doctrine of this cancer that must not be allowed to take root and metastasize.
THIS.......is what is ACTUALLY going to transpire. And soon.
Isaiah 2
This is the message that was revealed to Isaiah son of Amoz concerning Judah and Jerusalem:
2In the last days the mountain of the house of the LORD
will be established as the chief of the mountains;
it will be raised above the hills,
and all nations will stream to it.
3And many peoples will come and say:
“Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD,
to the house of the God of Jacob.
He will teach us His ways
so that we may walk in His paths.”
For the law will go forth from Zion,
and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
4Then He will judge between the nations
and arbitrate for many peoples.
They will beat their swords into plowshares
and their spears into pruning hooks.
Nation will no longer take up the sword against nation,
nor train anymore for war.
Here is some Romans for you buddy:
Rom 16:17
Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them.
Just doing my job @Cameron143 just doing my job.......
the first born of Isreal are still under Judgment as is the second born of Isreal.
No one can escape Gods Judgements.
And if the first born should go round in circles why shouldn't the second born
Because God the king of the borns went round in circles with them yes
Oh in a continuous motion to @cv5 who is still continuing in his continuous narrative of scare tactics to arouse suspicion of heresy towards a brother
Rom 16:18the first born of Isreal are still under Judgment as is the second born of Isreal.
No one can escape Gods Judgements.
And if the first born should go round in circles why shouldn't the second born
Because God the king of the borns went round in circles with them yes
Oh in a continuous motion to @cv5 who is still continuing in his continuous narrative of scare tactics to arouse suspicion of heresy towards a brother
For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple.
your lucky I'm still talking.
Romans 2:6Principle of Judgment #7: God's judgment is just -- every man will get exactly what he deserves. "(God) will render (give back) to every (each) man according to his deeds (works)." Here we have perfect justice at work. God evaluates a man's works and judges accordingly.
Right. As I said, just doing my job @Thunderrr-mental just doing my job.
And it is not much fun believe it. But somebody has to take out the trash and clean out the sewers right?
As far as the rapture goes, it's always spoken of as imminent. But it was written to 1st century Jews largely. It was only imminent to them. If you believe the rapture has yet to occur, then it's only imminent to the generation it comes in. To speak of imminency to someone 500 years in the future when the event is 1000 years in the future is a false imminency. It wasn't actually imminent. Likewise, to speak of an event that happens, according to you, 2000 years later is a false imminency. It wasn't actually imminent to the original audience. A 1st century rapture is actually imminent.
Why is Jacob's trouble not worse than the flood? Has God ever cut off a nation before? Has there ever been a nation that God had created for the purpose of bringing His Son into the world, made such great promises to, who He has miraculously protected and provided for, set His presence amongst, and made the people of God? Did ever a nation before or since lose so much?
I appreciate the fact that you believe I'm in a pickle. But I'm not the one who believes scripture doesn't have to make sense to the people it is written to, that imminency means any future time, and that the only nation God took as His people and who found their whole identity in their relationship with Him wouldn't believe that is worse than anything else.
when he wrote revelation has been a debate since the Bible existed there are two main schools of thought and niether side has proof it’s just a matter of what a person believes and the information they have about early ad history
I understand your chart and the scripture you base it on. What I don't understand why you believe it doesn't apply to the people it was written to. Or why in the same passage when it makes reference to the time frame of the desolation being armies doesn't apply to the armies that surrounded Jerusalem in the time of those to whom it is written. In other words, you have done an excellent job telling what the verses might mean if they were written to us today, but you have ignored what they actually mean to the people they are actually written to.
“And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up,
behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.”
Acts 1:9-11 KJV
“knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
… But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
2 Peter 3:3-4, 8-9 KJV
“He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
the field is the world;
the good seed are the children of the kingdom;
but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
the enemy that sowed them is the devil;
the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”
Matthew 13:37-43
Just one question Cameron if all the sleeping in Christ had been raised to life would we not be allowed to see them
Of course you do. Eye has not seen, nor any person ever imagined the things God has prepared for you.
When the time comes that you are absent from your body, you will be forever in presence of the Lord.
This, as you call it, is nothing in comparison. And neither was it ever intended to be. You look for a city whose Maker and Builder is God. C S Lewis wrote about it something like this...if you find you have desires that nothing in this world can satisfy then the most obvious conclusion is that you were made for a different world...
I know I butchered the quote, but that's gist of it.
the prophecy indicates when the final Judgment comes
The sleeping in Christ will be raised to life.
If there is no more rapture to come for the sleeping how come we can't see our loved ones
I see. I don't believe the rapture is a future event. I believe it occurred 1st century. I believe it applied to those in and around Jerusalem. The purpose of the rapture was to protect 1st century believers from the wrath that befell Jerusalem in 70 AD.
So I don't believe it applies to a coming rapture. I do believe we will see our loved ones in glory and recognize them.
the final judgement also indicates our loved one will walk on earth in a glorified body.
And Jesus will walk amongst his people on earth with his glorified body.
Can you see why I'm asking you now
Shouldn't we be seeing are loved ones now if a full rapture had occured