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I think this
“And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude 1:6
And this
“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:”
Matthew 25:41 KJV
The angels estate was heaven brother and they lost it because they went to war against the angels of God.
“And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
(they lost thier first estate )
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”
Revelation 12:7-9 KJV
Mostly I try to find out what’s being said about a subject in the Bible and form my ideas from that.
The biggest factor for me is the bi ke never speaks of angels repenting , being forgiven or restored bit what does appear sounds like this
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude 1:6
seems like he’s not waiting to save them it more as though they made themselves his enemy and he going to utterly devastate them now and he’s reserved them for this purpose in the day of judgement.
all I said is only my own opinion bro I respect yours also and it’s just my own thinking of what I know from the Bible doesn’t make me right ……or you wrong
“And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude 1:6
And this
“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:”
Matthew 25:41 KJV
The angels estate was heaven brother and they lost it because they went to war against the angels of God.
“And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
(they lost thier first estate )
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”
Revelation 12:7-9 KJV
Mostly I try to find out what’s being said about a subject in the Bible and form my ideas from that.
The biggest factor for me is the bi ke never speaks of angels repenting , being forgiven or restored bit what does appear sounds like this
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude 1:6
seems like he’s not waiting to save them it more as though they made themselves his enemy and he going to utterly devastate them now and he’s reserved them for this purpose in the day of judgement.
all I said is only my own opinion bro I respect yours also and it’s just my own thinking of what I know from the Bible doesn’t make me right ……or you wrong
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Returning now to our main topic after chasing that rabbit:
EPH 3:12-13 – “In him and through faith in him we may approach God with freedom and confidence. I ask you, therefore, not to be discouraged because of my sufferings for you, which are your glory.”
“In him and through faith in him” – this is the thematic or key phrase introduced in 1:3, so by now it should be clearly understood that “in/through him” refers to saving faith in the Lord JC (1:17)
“we may approach God with freedom and confidence” – approaching God implies a saved relationship with God as in Heb. 4:16 &
1John 3:21 & 5:14
“I ask you, therefore, not to be discouraged because of my sufferings for you” – Paul’s sufferings result from being a prisoner in chains per 3:1 & 6:20
“my sufferings for you, which are your glory” – Paul viewed suffering for Christ as a privilege (per Phil. 1:29-30) and an opportunity for learning how to be content in all situations (Phil.4:11-13)
EPH 3:12-13 – “In him and through faith in him we may approach God with freedom and confidence. I ask you, therefore, not to be discouraged because of my sufferings for you, which are your glory.”
“In him and through faith in him” – this is the thematic or key phrase introduced in 1:3, so by now it should be clearly understood that “in/through him” refers to saving faith in the Lord JC (1:17)
“we may approach God with freedom and confidence” – approaching God implies a saved relationship with God as in Heb. 4:16 &
1John 3:21 & 5:14
“I ask you, therefore, not to be discouraged because of my sufferings for you” – Paul’s sufferings result from being a prisoner in chains per 3:1 & 6:20
“my sufferings for you, which are your glory” – Paul viewed suffering for Christ as a privilege (per Phil. 1:29-30) and an opportunity for learning how to be content in all situations (Phil.4:11-13)
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jde 1:6
And angels (ἀγγέλους τε) the ones not guarding at some point (τοὺς μὴ τηρήσαντας, aorist active participle) the beginning state/mandate of themselves (τὴν ἑαυτῶν ἀρχὴν), but instead (ἀλλὰ) lacking away at some point (ἀπολιπόντας, aorist active participle) the own habitation (τὸ ἴδιον οἰκητήριον), into judgment (εἰς κρίσιν) of a great day (μεγάλης ἡμέρας) in endless chains (δεσμοῖς ἀϊδίοις) under darkness (ὑπὸ ζόφον) he has reserved (τετήρηκεν).
My own paraphrase of the sense of the Greek text.
And those angels, who did not stick to their own original mandate/position as servants of mankind, but instead left behind/lost access to, and are now wanting, their native dwelling-place/glory, God has reserved in unbreakable chains for a great day's judgment, when the saints will judge them.
The word for "left" in "left their own habitation" is a combination of "leipO" (I lack) and a prefix "apo" (away). It occurs six times in the New testament. It is sometimes translated as "to remain", and sometimes as "to leave". I believe the correct concept is "to leave/abandon/forsake something or someone, but realise that you lack/need it now." This meaning fits all its occurrences in the NT.
2 Tim 4:13 Paul left his cloak at Troas but feels a lack of it/wants it now,
2 Tim 4:20 Paul left Trophimus sick at Miletus, but is feeling a need for his assistance now.
Heb 4:6 and 9 it occurs in the present passive form, speaking of the rest of God offered to men that was forsaken, but he is sorely in need of now.
Heb. 10:26 The wilfully sinning once-upon-a-time believer has abandoned the sacrifice for sins, but is sorely in need of it now.
And Jude 1:6 The angels who wanted to rule men rather than serve them, have abandoned the dwelling place they were created for but a sorely missing it now. "Dwelling place" (oikEtErion) is used twice in the Bible: once here and once in 2 Cor. 5:2
2Co 5:2
For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house G3613 which is from heaven:
In 2 Corinthians it refers to the glorious heavenly body that saints have in heaven while awaiting Christ's return, and which will be overlaid upon our resurrected physical body.
We are told that the chains are temporally endless, not that the incarceration of the angels is temporally endless. That is why I translate it as unbreakable chains. Christ or the saints may be able to unloch the chains with the keys of the kingdom. I don't think the wording implies that the angels can never be released and forgiven. There may be some whose hearts at the judgment are broken and contrite.
Jde 1:6
And angels (ἀγγέλους τε) the ones not guarding at some point (τοὺς μὴ τηρήσαντας, aorist active participle) the beginning state/mandate of themselves (τὴν ἑαυτῶν ἀρχὴν), but instead (ἀλλὰ) lacking away at some point (ἀπολιπόντας, aorist active participle) the own habitation (τὸ ἴδιον οἰκητήριον), into judgment (εἰς κρίσιν) of a great day (μεγάλης ἡμέρας) in endless chains (δεσμοῖς ἀϊδίοις) under darkness (ὑπὸ ζόφον) he has reserved (τετήρηκεν).
My own paraphrase of the sense of the Greek text.
And those angels, who did not stick to their own original mandate/position as servants of mankind, but instead left behind/lost access to, and are now wanting, their native dwelling-place/glory, God has reserved in unbreakable chains for a great day's judgment, when the saints will judge them.
The word for "left" in "left their own habitation" is a combination of "leipO" (I lack) and a prefix "apo" (away). It occurs six times in the New testament. It is sometimes translated as "to remain", and sometimes as "to leave". I believe the correct concept is "to leave/abandon/forsake something or someone, but realise that you lack/need it now." This meaning fits all its occurrences in the NT.
2 Tim 4:13 Paul left his cloak at Troas but feels a lack of it/wants it now,
2 Tim 4:20 Paul left Trophimus sick at Miletus, but is feeling a need for his assistance now.
Heb 4:6 and 9 it occurs in the present passive form, speaking of the rest of God offered to men that was forsaken, but he is sorely in need of now.
Heb. 10:26 The wilfully sinning once-upon-a-time believer has abandoned the sacrifice for sins, but is sorely in need of it now.
And Jude 1:6 The angels who wanted to rule men rather than serve them, have abandoned the dwelling place they were created for but a sorely missing it now. "Dwelling place" (oikEtErion) is used twice in the Bible: once here and once in 2 Cor. 5:2
2Co 5:2
For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house G3613 which is from heaven:
In 2 Corinthians it refers to the glorious heavenly body that saints have in heaven while awaiting Christ's return, and which will be overlaid upon our resurrected physical body.
We are told that the chains are temporally endless, not that the incarceration of the angels is temporally endless. That is why I translate it as unbreakable chains. Christ or the saints may be able to unloch the chains with the keys of the kingdom. I don't think the wording implies that the angels can never be released and forgiven. There may be some whose hearts at the judgment are broken and contrite.
Continuing the systematic study of Ephesians:
EPH 3:14-17a – “For this reason I kneel before the Father, from whom his whole family in heaven and on earth derives its name. I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith.”
“For this reason I kneel before the Father” – Paul prays for the Ephesians not to be discouraged; Barclay notes that this apparently continues the line of thought that began in v.1, and he thinks kneeling indicates the great urgency felt by Paul
“from whom his whole family in heaven and on earth derives its name” – I have no idea what name Paul has in mind—and neither did Barclay
“I pray that out of his glorious riches” – Paul referred to the riches of Christ in Eph.3:8, 2:4&7 and 1:18
“he may strengthen you with power” – God’s power was cited in Eph. 3:7 & 1:19, where it referred to raising Christ from the dead
“through his Spirit in your inner being” – the Spirit was mentioned in Eph. 3:5, 2:18 & 22 and 1:13
“so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith” – this truth is found in Rev. 3:20
EPH 3:14-17a – “For this reason I kneel before the Father, from whom his whole family in heaven and on earth derives its name. I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith.”
“For this reason I kneel before the Father” – Paul prays for the Ephesians not to be discouraged; Barclay notes that this apparently continues the line of thought that began in v.1, and he thinks kneeling indicates the great urgency felt by Paul
“from whom his whole family in heaven and on earth derives its name” – I have no idea what name Paul has in mind—and neither did Barclay
“I pray that out of his glorious riches” – Paul referred to the riches of Christ in Eph.3:8, 2:4&7 and 1:18
“he may strengthen you with power” – God’s power was cited in Eph. 3:7 & 1:19, where it referred to raising Christ from the dead
“through his Spirit in your inner being” – the Spirit was mentioned in Eph. 3:5, 2:18 & 22 and 1:13
“so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith” – this truth is found in Rev. 3:20