Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%

  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%

  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%
  • Total voters
    161
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Scribe

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gb9 said:
a few days ago, i told mr scribe that one of my good friend's sister had to spend 4 days in a hospital due to an adverse reaction to the covid vax.

he did not ask me what happened , what the symptoms were, how they were treated, nothing.

just blew it off as a fluke and carried on pushing the vax.

so, that mindset does not WANT to know, just believe in the vax no matter what.
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Your sisters experience does not trump 37 million vaccinated with no issues. That was my point and still is. People who are known to have severe allergic reactions to things should have an Epi Pen ready and should be under the watchful eye of a hospital if they decide to take the vaccine knowing that they will react but knowing that it is worth it because they can get over the reaction and be immunized. A severe reaction from allergic response in a one in a million case does not cast doubt on the overwhelming benifits of the vaccine and I won't be guilted by not asking after the welfare of your sister.

I hope she is doing ok by the way. :)
 
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gb9

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Scribe said:
Your sisters experience does not trump 37 million vaccinated with no issues. That was my point and still is. People who are known to have severe allergic reactions to things should have an Epi Pen ready and should be under the watchful eye of a hospital if they decide to take the vaccine knowing that they will react but knowing that it is worth it because they can get over the reaction and be immunized. A severe reaction from allergic response in a one in a million case does not cast doubt on the overwhelming benifits of the vaccine and I won't be guilted by not asking after the welfare of your sister.

I hope she is doing ok by the way. :)
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thanks, doing fine as far as i know ( not my sister, a close friends sister).
 
PennEd

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SophieT

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Norwegian health officials have adjusted their advice on who gets a COVID-19 vaccine as 29 frail elderly people die

  • Norwegian health officials have changed their advice on who gets a COVID-19 vaccine after more than 25 elderly people with underlying health conditions died.
  • According to the agency, "all deaths" are linked to the Pfizer vaccine, which was the only one available in the country until Friday.
  • However, Norwegian officials maintain they are not alarmed and have advised individual doctors to decide who should receive a vaccine.
  • Pfizer said they are investigating the deaths but added that "the number of incidents so far is not alarming, and in line with expectations."
Norwegian health officials have warned that vaccinating the most frail older people with serious underlying health conditions could be dangerous after the country reported more than 25 deaths.

The Norwegian Medicines Agency first reported on Thursday that 23 elderly people had died in a short time after receiving their first dose of the Pfizer vaccine, 13 of which may have suffered from deadly side effects.

However, the number of deaths has been updated to 29 people as of Sunday, according to Bloomberg.

According to the agency, "all deaths" are linked to the Pfizer vaccine, which was the only one available in the country until Friday.
 
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SophieT

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?
(the op)

As more people die, many are now refusing the 2nd shot of Pfizer's concoction and frontline health workers (man) are also saying 'no thank you'. Waiting for the long term effects. :cautious:
 
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gb9

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SophieT

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update:

It is now 33 deaths in Norway. Norway is a small country with a population of less than 5.5 million
 
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SophieT

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#928
Large Numbers Of Health Care And Frontline Workers Are Refusing Covid-19 Vaccine
Tommy BeerForbes Staff
Business
Updated Jan 3, 2021, 09:22pm EST



Despite the Covid-19 death count in the United States rapidly accelerating, a startlingly high percentage of health care professionals and frontline workers throughout the country—who have been prioritized as early receipts of the coronavirus vaccine—are reportedly hesitant or outright refusing to take it, despite clear scientific evidence that the vaccines are safe and effective.

KEY FACTS
Earlier this week, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine said he was "troubled" by the relatively low numbers of nursing home workers who have elected to take the vaccine, with DeWine stating that approximately 60% of nursing home staff declined the shot.
Dr. Joseph Varon, chief of critical care at Houston's United Memorial Medical Center, told NPR in December more than half of the nurses in his unit informed him they would not get the vaccine.


Roughly 55 percent of surveyed New York Fire Department firefighters said they would not get the coronavirus vaccine, the Firefighters Association president said last month.
The Los Angeles Times reported Thursday that hospital and public officials in Riverside, Calif., have been forced to figure out how best to allocate unused doses after an estimated 50% of frontline workers in the county refused the vaccine.
Fewer than half of the hospital workers at St. Elizabeth Community Hospital in Tehama County, Calif., were willing to be vaccinated, and around 20% to 40% of L.A. County's frontline workers have reportedly declined an opportunity to take the vaccine.
Dr. Nikhila Juvvadi, the chief clinical officer at Chicago's Loretto Hospital, said that a survey was administered in December, and 40% of the hospital staff said they would not get vaccinated.

KEY BACKGROUND:
A recent survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that 29% of healthcare workers were hesitant to receive the vaccine, citing concerns related to potential side effects and a lack of faith in the government to ensure the vaccines were safe.
 
shittim

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PennEd- I just received this from a friend, this Dr. speaks of "lysosomolisotropic" ( surely misspelled) agents, and how if proven will collapse the 69 billion dollar vaccine industry.
 
PennEd

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shittim said:
PennEd- I just received this from a friend, this Dr. speaks of "lysosomolisotropic" ( surely misspelled) agents, and how if proven will collapse the 69 billion dollar vaccine industry.
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That was an awesome video. Thanks for sharing.

Mr Scribe. Please watch while it's still available. At least from the 19:00 minute mark on.
 
shittim

shittim

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Glad you found it fruitful

Vitamin D is the biggest deal
 
CedarRose

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Maybe down the road. Depends. But I wouldn't take it any time soon. There is talk that people won't have much of choice if certain places require travellers to having the vaccine. I would rather have children before getting it, just in case.
 
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KT88

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#933
Yup, but Canada is not getting enough of the vax, probably months and months before I get the vax. I'm retired so it's not like I have to have contacts in a work environment so I can keep my exposure to a minimum.
 
Lisamn

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Scribe said:
I have a feeling that a certain type of personality is over represented here.
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That’s interesting...what type of personality do you think is over represented here?
 
breno785au

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CedarRose said:
Maybe down the road. Depends. But I wouldn't take it any time soon. There is talk that people won't have much of choice if certain places require travellers to having the vaccine. I would rather have children before getting it, just in case.
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Yes much the same as where you must have the yellow fever vaccine before returning to Australia from places like Kenya.
 
PC123

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Scribe said:
Has anyone changed their mind and decided to take the vaccine when it is available for general public?

More Than 86.4 Million COVID-19 Vaccine Shots Given

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/
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Well, let's see...

Will I be given the choice on whether or not to take the experimental vaccine???
No, laws are already being changed here to strip our God-given right to choose what goes into our bodies

Is there a general agreement amongst doctors and scientists???
No. My physician doesn't trust these experimental vaccines, same as many other medical professionals. And to make it even more untrustworthy, these experts that have differing opinions are being censored, silenced, sacked, doxed, threatened, bribes, etc...

Are the experimental vaccines safe???
No, there are many people who are dying from these experimental vaccines and many more becoming disabled from them

Will the experimental vaccine provide immunity???
No. They only reduce the severity of symptoms

Will the experimental vaccine stop transmission???
No. Not only can u still catch covid but you can still spread it too...
The experimental vaccines don't give immunity, nor does it stop transmission

Will the experimental vaccine bring life back to normal???
No. They've already said that the world is never going back to normal. Even after taking the experimental vaccine we still have to social distance, wear masks, have our income taken away as well as our lives

Will I be able to seek compensation from the experimental vaccine makers if I suffer severe adverse side effects???
No. Big pharma cannot be held liable for any ill side effects from the experimental vaccine

Let's have a look at how these experimental vaccines have impacted the covid numbers...

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Well... Since the experimental vaccine was introduced in the USA we have seen a sharp increase in covid deaths...
Therefore the experimental vaccine is not effective at all...
If it was effective then we should have seen a sharp decrease in covid deaths and cases

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And we see the same thing in the UK... A sharp increase in covid deaths after the experimental vaccine began rolling out...

I find it interesting why anyone would still be defending such a useless experimental vaccine without a shred of evidence, especially the forcing of such an experiment on the human race. Why such people cannot stand to see other people chatting amongst themselves about the immorality of these vaccines.

Im still observing, making enquires, testing, etc, so I'm hesitant to give my conclusion yet as it is complicated and draws on many branches of psychology, human nature, philosophy, and such. At the moment I'm seeing a type of deep, prolonged cognitive dissonance, influenced by peer pressure. There are also some Stockholm syndrome symptoms, along with a big dose of pride.

But the biggest influence I think is from the acceptance of one's freedom of religion... Once someone allows their firmest belief to be dictated in such a way then what they effectively did was put the government ahead of God, they put covid ahead of God. That's why we see such people barge in out of nowhere to defend their faith. For them, an attack on the experimental vaccine or covid is an attack on their God...

Now, go ahead and defend...
Defend the integrity of the experimental vaccine as if you're defending God and the word of the MSM as if it was Holy Scripture.
For you have nothing to do with our views on covid yet u cannot help but get involved in our choices
 
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Scribe

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PC123 said:
Well, let's see...

Will I be given the choice on whether or not to take the experimental vaccine???
No, laws are already being changed here to strip our God-given right to choose what goes into our bodies

Is there a general agreement amongst doctors and scientists???
No. My physician doesn't trust these experimental vaccines, same as many other medical professionals. And to make it even more untrustworthy, these experts that have differing opinions are being censored, silenced, sacked, doxed, threatened, bribes, etc...

Are the experimental vaccines safe???
No, there are many people who are dying from these experimental vaccines and many more becoming disabled from them

Will the experimental vaccine provide immunity???
No. They only reduce the severity of symptoms

Will the experimental vaccine stop transmission???
No. Not only can u still catch covid but you can still spread it too...
The experimental vaccines don't give immunity, nor does it stop transmission

Will the experimental vaccine bring life back to normal???
No. They've already said that the world is never going back to normal. Even after taking the experimental vaccine we still have to social distance, wear masks, have our income taken away as well as our lives

Will I be able to seek compensation from the experimental vaccine makers if I suffer severe adverse side effects???
No. Big pharma cannot be held liable for any ill side effects from the experimental vaccine

Let's have a look at how these experimental vaccines have impacted the covid numbers...

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Well... Since the experimental vaccine was introduced in the USA we have seen a sharp increase in covid deaths...
Therefore the experimental vaccine is not effective at all...
If it was effective then we should have seen a sharp decrease in covid deaths and cases

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And we see the same thing in the UK... A sharp increase in covid deaths after the experimental vaccine began rolling out...

I find it interesting why anyone would still be defending such a useless experimental vaccine without a shred of evidence, especially the forcing of such an experiment on the human race. Why such people cannot stand to see other people chatting amongst themselves about the immorality of these vaccines.

Im still observing, making enquires, testing, etc, so I'm hesitant to give my conclusion yet as it is complicated and draws on many branches of psychology, human nature, philosophy, and such. At the moment I'm seeing a type of deep, prolonged cognitive dissonance, influenced by peer pressure. There are also some Stockholm syndrome symptoms, along with a big dose of pride.

But the biggest influence I think is from the acceptance of one's freedom of religion... Once someone allows their firmest belief to be dictated in such a way then what they effectively did was put the government ahead of God, they put covid ahead of God. That's why we see such people barge in out of nowhere to defend their faith. For them, an attack on the experimental vaccine or covid is an attack on their God...
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I guess that's a No then?
 
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