Summary of Bible references on the Rapture
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if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:
Acts 5:34 Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; 35 And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men. 36 For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought. 37 After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed. 38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: 39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
I have taken this attitude towards many of the sites I visited and shared. If you have followed this blog you can see that some of them have come to naught. We don't always know ahead of time who that will be. Think of the coworkers that Paul had that abandoned him, abandoned the faith, etc. Also, some like Mark will return, so you never know. But this is why I am not quick to judge a ministry whether or not it is of God. I have heard things that very much surprised me, like the things that Vicky Goforth Parnell shares, but I figured she would crash and burn if this were of men, what she is speaking almost daily is impossible for a fraud to do. The fact that she is under withering attack and yet continues to speak, that is a big testimony to me. People have tried to overthrow her speaking and can't. That is incredible and a confirmation that she is speaking from God.
I have noticed that many of the sites have "dried up". They have withered under the intense sun. That reveals that they were quick to spring up but didn't have the roots in the Lord to support their ministry.
Acts 5:34 Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; 35 And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men. 36 For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought. 37 After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed. 38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: 39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
I have taken this attitude towards many of the sites I visited and shared. If you have followed this blog you can see that some of them have come to naught. We don't always know ahead of time who that will be. Think of the coworkers that Paul had that abandoned him, abandoned the faith, etc. Also, some like Mark will return, so you never know. But this is why I am not quick to judge a ministry whether or not it is of God. I have heard things that very much surprised me, like the things that Vicky Goforth Parnell shares, but I figured she would crash and burn if this were of men, what she is speaking almost daily is impossible for a fraud to do. The fact that she is under withering attack and yet continues to speak, that is a big testimony to me. People have tried to overthrow her speaking and can't. That is incredible and a confirmation that she is speaking from God.
I have noticed that many of the sites have "dried up". They have withered under the intense sun. That reveals that they were quick to spring up but didn't have the roots in the Lord to support their ministry.
When you make an agreement with the kingdom of darkness, and when you sin you are making an agreement with the kingdom of darkness, when you do this you give them a perimeter within which they can work.
However, when you confess that sin, take the Lord's blood and fully repent. (You can't rob a bank and then say "I'm sorry Lord, I confess". You have to also repent and that means returning the money. According to the law you have to pay back what you stole double, and if you don't repent but get caught by the police view that as God giving you one last chance to repent, in that case you have to pay back five fold). So then, when you confess, take the Lord's blood and repent, then you also annul that agreement with the kingdom of darkness and that perimeter they could operate in gets annulled.
However, when you confess that sin, take the Lord's blood and fully repent. (You can't rob a bank and then say "I'm sorry Lord, I confess". You have to also repent and that means returning the money. According to the law you have to pay back what you stole double, and if you don't repent but get caught by the police view that as God giving you one last chance to repent, in that case you have to pay back five fold). So then, when you confess, take the Lord's blood and repent, then you also annul that agreement with the kingdom of darkness and that perimeter they could operate in gets annulled.
Learn to interpret prophetic speaking
22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. 23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
This is so common, everyone hears what they want to hear and they pretend this is what the Lord said. I have seen so many times when someone is attacked for being a false prophet and when you dig down the issue is not that anything they said was false, but that the interpretation that this person has is false. Why does this happen? I think it is clear that the person "interpreting" the speaking is allowing their flesh and their biases to dictate. What is really a false prophet is your flesh and your biases.
22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. 23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
This is so common, everyone hears what they want to hear and they pretend this is what the Lord said. I have seen so many times when someone is attacked for being a false prophet and when you dig down the issue is not that anything they said was false, but that the interpretation that this person has is false. Why does this happen? I think it is clear that the person "interpreting" the speaking is allowing their flesh and their biases to dictate. What is really a false prophet is your flesh and your biases.
Oh that my people had hearkened unto me, and Israel had walked in my ways!
Psalm 81:1 Sing aloud unto God our strength: make a joyful noise unto the God of Jacob. 2 Take a psalm, and bring hither the timbrel, the pleasant harp with the psaltery. 3 Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day.
About 20% of Americans claim to go to church (or some other religious service) each week. In the 1950s church attendance was about 63% of the population.
4 For this was a statute for Israel, and a law of the God of Jacob.
We used to have a statute concerning Sunday and those were called "Blue laws".
5 This he ordained in Joseph for a testimony, when he went out through the land of Egypt: where I heard a language that I understood not.
This is why the US was called a "Christian nation". I grew up when everyone went to church. You simply assumed this is what everyone does. Then when I visited England and Taiwan I found out that was not true.
6 I removed his shoulder from the burden: his hands were delivered from the pots.
So consider the US history, in the 1950s we had this rapid development of appliances that washed our clothes and our pots, and which did the heavy work of digging, and hauling stuff.
7 Thou calledst in trouble, and I delivered thee; I answered thee in the secret place of thunder: I proved thee at the waters of Meribah. Selah.
The Day of Trouble for America was WW2 and the bombing of Pearl Harbor. FDR had fireside chats and the whole nation called on the Lord to save after Pearl Harbor.
8 Hear, O my people, and I will testify unto thee: O Israel, if thou wilt hearken unto me; 9 There shall no strange god be in thee; neither shalt thou worship any strange god.
But then what happened in the 1960s? You have a hippy movement, you have strange gods, you have fornication and drugs and chanting and rock and roll music. People get upset when you say this but the group Black Sabbath was clearly involved in the occult and pushing that with their music. Led Zeppelin musicians were known to be involved in the occult, the same is said of John Lennon with the Beatles, of course the Rolling Stones were very frank about having a strange god, and of course Bob Dylan has said he made a pact with the Devil. Meanwhile Grammies award shows have become worship of the occult.
10 I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.
This is the promise, God has made good on that promise, we should be able to see that God has been faithful to save when we called.
11 But my people would not hearken to my voice; and Israel would none of me.
And yet this is precisely what has happened. We have dropped from 63% of Americans attending church each week to 20%. Meanwhile we have seen divorce, abortion, drug addiction, and domestic abuse all skyrocket.
12 So I gave them up unto their own hearts' lust: and they walked in their own counsels.
All of the ills are a result of Americans walking in their own hearts lust.
13 Oh that my people had hearkened unto me, and Israel had walked in my ways!
Look at what has happened as a result of computers, the internet, AI, robots, fusion, and quantum computers. We understand that all these things are tools, extremely powerful tools. In the right hands the whole world could have become a paradise. But in the wrong hands this can be the fulfillment of demonic dreams like the Purge.
14 I should soon have subdued their enemies, and turned my hand against their adversaries.
In the 1950s there was a fork in the road. One road leads to God quickly subduing our adversaries. The other road leads to where we are today.
15 The haters of the Lord should have submitted themselves unto him: but their time should have endured for ever.
Today the haters of the Lord have exploded like a plague of mosquitos.
16 He should have fed them also with the finest of the wheat: and with honey out of the rock should I have satisfied thee.
Psalm 81:1 Sing aloud unto God our strength: make a joyful noise unto the God of Jacob. 2 Take a psalm, and bring hither the timbrel, the pleasant harp with the psaltery. 3 Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day.
About 20% of Americans claim to go to church (or some other religious service) each week. In the 1950s church attendance was about 63% of the population.
4 For this was a statute for Israel, and a law of the God of Jacob.
We used to have a statute concerning Sunday and those were called "Blue laws".
5 This he ordained in Joseph for a testimony, when he went out through the land of Egypt: where I heard a language that I understood not.
This is why the US was called a "Christian nation". I grew up when everyone went to church. You simply assumed this is what everyone does. Then when I visited England and Taiwan I found out that was not true.
6 I removed his shoulder from the burden: his hands were delivered from the pots.
So consider the US history, in the 1950s we had this rapid development of appliances that washed our clothes and our pots, and which did the heavy work of digging, and hauling stuff.
7 Thou calledst in trouble, and I delivered thee; I answered thee in the secret place of thunder: I proved thee at the waters of Meribah. Selah.
The Day of Trouble for America was WW2 and the bombing of Pearl Harbor. FDR had fireside chats and the whole nation called on the Lord to save after Pearl Harbor.
8 Hear, O my people, and I will testify unto thee: O Israel, if thou wilt hearken unto me; 9 There shall no strange god be in thee; neither shalt thou worship any strange god.
But then what happened in the 1960s? You have a hippy movement, you have strange gods, you have fornication and drugs and chanting and rock and roll music. People get upset when you say this but the group Black Sabbath was clearly involved in the occult and pushing that with their music. Led Zeppelin musicians were known to be involved in the occult, the same is said of John Lennon with the Beatles, of course the Rolling Stones were very frank about having a strange god, and of course Bob Dylan has said he made a pact with the Devil. Meanwhile Grammies award shows have become worship of the occult.
10 I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.
This is the promise, God has made good on that promise, we should be able to see that God has been faithful to save when we called.
11 But my people would not hearken to my voice; and Israel would none of me.
And yet this is precisely what has happened. We have dropped from 63% of Americans attending church each week to 20%. Meanwhile we have seen divorce, abortion, drug addiction, and domestic abuse all skyrocket.
12 So I gave them up unto their own hearts' lust: and they walked in their own counsels.
All of the ills are a result of Americans walking in their own hearts lust.
13 Oh that my people had hearkened unto me, and Israel had walked in my ways!
Look at what has happened as a result of computers, the internet, AI, robots, fusion, and quantum computers. We understand that all these things are tools, extremely powerful tools. In the right hands the whole world could have become a paradise. But in the wrong hands this can be the fulfillment of demonic dreams like the Purge.
14 I should soon have subdued their enemies, and turned my hand against their adversaries.
In the 1950s there was a fork in the road. One road leads to God quickly subduing our adversaries. The other road leads to where we are today.
15 The haters of the Lord should have submitted themselves unto him: but their time should have endured for ever.
Today the haters of the Lord have exploded like a plague of mosquitos.
16 He should have fed them also with the finest of the wheat: and with honey out of the rock should I have satisfied thee.
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
We have an interpretation of this based on 1 Thessalonians 4:16 that at the time of the rapture the dead are raised out of the ground first, and then those who are alive are also raptured at the same time. But that is not what 1 Corinthians says, rather it describes death being swallowed up in victory indicating that all of the ones being raptured, whether alive or dead are being referenced here and being described as "the dead".
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
There is an overwhelming case to that can be made and has been made by various Christian teachers that some people are raptured before the seven year tribulation and then that most are saved out of the seven year tribulation. If we examine this verse carefully "we which are alive and remain shall be caught up with them". It makes no sense to say that at the time of the rapture this is saying that the people in the graves are raised first and then those who are alive because why the use of the word "remain". That would make much more sense if it is referring to those who are alive (having not been martyred during the tribulation) and remain (after many other Christians were raptured). Then they are caught up together with them. Who is the "them"? Those that were raptured previously. In the first rapture we are caught up to meet the Lord in the air. However, there is no mention that after that event Jesus and the raptured return to heaven. On the contrary Jesus is very present in the air during the tribulation. The fallen angels were the principalities and powers in the air until they are cast down when the man child is caught up. From the time of the rapture on it is Jesus who is the principality and power of the air and the fallen angels are cast to the earth.
If we understand this then "the dead in Christ" refers to everyone who is raptured, not just those who are in the grave.
Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
After we are saved we are baptized into Jesus' death. We are supposed to abide in the death of Christ. The reason our debt is paid and Satan has no claim on us is because we are dead in Christ. We identify with that death when we receive Jesus' redeeming blood. The reason many refuse to received Jesus' redeeming blood is because they refuse to identify with the Jesus' death and to abide in that death. Paul is saying there are two kinds of Christians, there are those who abide in the death of Christ and there are those who treat Jesus redemption as "life insurance policy". They don't want to go to hell but at the same time they are not willing to crucified with Christ.
Colossians 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
Paul says that we are dead, so it is perfectly Biblical to say that the "dead in Christ" refers to all believers who have their life hid in Christ, not simply ones who are in the grave.
2 Timothy 2:11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
Why use the word "if"? Why ask the believers if they understood that they were baptized into Christ's death? Again, there is a very clear Biblical truth that not all have the testimony that they have been crucified with Christ and that it is no longer they that live but Christ that lives in them. Not all believers are "dead in Christ". Some have very much not died to themselves.
This is very relevant to the rapture. The first feast of first fruits was for barley and that was when Jesus and others rose from the grave. The second feast of first fruits is of wheat and that was when Jesus ascended to the heavens to sit on the throne. The third feast of first fruits is for wine which depicts the "blood of the grapes". It is those who have died and poured out their blood for the Lord. Hence it is the feast of "the dead in Christ" and that is the first ones to be raptured. After the rapture some are locked out and the Lord tells them to go buy oil from those that sell. The next feast of first fruits is the feast of new oil. So that is the rapture for those who are alive and remain after the first rapture.
1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
We have an interpretation of this based on 1 Thessalonians 4:16 that at the time of the rapture the dead are raised out of the ground first, and then those who are alive are also raptured at the same time. But that is not what 1 Corinthians says, rather it describes death being swallowed up in victory indicating that all of the ones being raptured, whether alive or dead are being referenced here and being described as "the dead".
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
There is an overwhelming case to that can be made and has been made by various Christian teachers that some people are raptured before the seven year tribulation and then that most are saved out of the seven year tribulation. If we examine this verse carefully "we which are alive and remain shall be caught up with them". It makes no sense to say that at the time of the rapture this is saying that the people in the graves are raised first and then those who are alive because why the use of the word "remain". That would make much more sense if it is referring to those who are alive (having not been martyred during the tribulation) and remain (after many other Christians were raptured). Then they are caught up together with them. Who is the "them"? Those that were raptured previously. In the first rapture we are caught up to meet the Lord in the air. However, there is no mention that after that event Jesus and the raptured return to heaven. On the contrary Jesus is very present in the air during the tribulation. The fallen angels were the principalities and powers in the air until they are cast down when the man child is caught up. From the time of the rapture on it is Jesus who is the principality and power of the air and the fallen angels are cast to the earth.
If we understand this then "the dead in Christ" refers to everyone who is raptured, not just those who are in the grave.
Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
After we are saved we are baptized into Jesus' death. We are supposed to abide in the death of Christ. The reason our debt is paid and Satan has no claim on us is because we are dead in Christ. We identify with that death when we receive Jesus' redeeming blood. The reason many refuse to received Jesus' redeeming blood is because they refuse to identify with the Jesus' death and to abide in that death. Paul is saying there are two kinds of Christians, there are those who abide in the death of Christ and there are those who treat Jesus redemption as "life insurance policy". They don't want to go to hell but at the same time they are not willing to crucified with Christ.
Colossians 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
Paul says that we are dead, so it is perfectly Biblical to say that the "dead in Christ" refers to all believers who have their life hid in Christ, not simply ones who are in the grave.
2 Timothy 2:11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
Why use the word "if"? Why ask the believers if they understood that they were baptized into Christ's death? Again, there is a very clear Biblical truth that not all have the testimony that they have been crucified with Christ and that it is no longer they that live but Christ that lives in them. Not all believers are "dead in Christ". Some have very much not died to themselves.
This is very relevant to the rapture. The first feast of first fruits was for barley and that was when Jesus and others rose from the grave. The second feast of first fruits is of wheat and that was when Jesus ascended to the heavens to sit on the throne. The third feast of first fruits is for wine which depicts the "blood of the grapes". It is those who have died and poured out their blood for the Lord. Hence it is the feast of "the dead in Christ" and that is the first ones to be raptured. After the rapture some are locked out and the Lord tells them to go buy oil from those that sell. The next feast of first fruits is the feast of new oil. So that is the rapture for those who are alive and remain after the first rapture.
Make a joyful noise unto the Lord
Psalm 100:1 Make a joyful noise unto the Lord, all ye lands.
Be at peace and rejoice in the Lord.
2 Serve the Lord with gladness: come before his presence with singing.
Don't get caught up in all the anxiety that is in the world.
3 Know ye that the Lord he is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.
God is the creator. God is omnipotent. God is omniscient. There is nothing that man can make that can rival God and that includes AI. There is nothing man can do unless God allows it and that includes nuclear war. If you lose your job know that the Lord is the shepherd, we are the sheep of His pasture and He is simply moving us to another pasture.
4 Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name.
The world is filled with complaining, they are all like sheep without a shepherd, to be thankful and filled with praise is the contrast. Bless God's name for all that is going on, because this is all how He will get a glorious bride and bring in the Kingdom of the heavens.
5 For the Lord is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.
The world accuses the Lord of being bad, there is no mercy in the world, they are ruthless, and they have no clue what the truth is. They are so filled with deceit that you can't know what the truth is. But praise the Lord, His truth endures to all generations despite deep fakes, and all the deceit they can throw at us.
Psalm 100:1 Make a joyful noise unto the Lord, all ye lands.
Be at peace and rejoice in the Lord.
2 Serve the Lord with gladness: come before his presence with singing.
Don't get caught up in all the anxiety that is in the world.
3 Know ye that the Lord he is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.
God is the creator. God is omnipotent. God is omniscient. There is nothing that man can make that can rival God and that includes AI. There is nothing man can do unless God allows it and that includes nuclear war. If you lose your job know that the Lord is the shepherd, we are the sheep of His pasture and He is simply moving us to another pasture.
4 Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name.
The world is filled with complaining, they are all like sheep without a shepherd, to be thankful and filled with praise is the contrast. Bless God's name for all that is going on, because this is all how He will get a glorious bride and bring in the Kingdom of the heavens.
5 For the Lord is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.
The world accuses the Lord of being bad, there is no mercy in the world, they are ruthless, and they have no clue what the truth is. They are so filled with deceit that you can't know what the truth is. But praise the Lord, His truth endures to all generations despite deep fakes, and all the deceit they can throw at us.
Reflecting on key things we learned this year
1. May 14, 1948 is a critical date. This is the "birthday" for the modern state of Israel. We can debate the year and day that Jesus was born or crucified, but there are certain dates that have been given to us as a firm nail that we can hang our hat on and the importance of this date is first and foremost.
2. Israel is now 77 years old, we learned how significant this was since Jacob a shadow of Israel was around 77 years old when he began working seven years to marry Rachel. We can see the wedding of both Rachel and Leah over a seven day period as a type of the Feast of Tabernacles which would be the conclusion of the seven year period known as "the tribulation".
3. These two things have helped to focus watchmen. There is no word in the New Testament that says we cannot know the year of the rapture. Because of this we have seen many other connections. For example, if the seven year tribulation begins in 2025 then Israel will be 80 at the mid point of this tribulation and that would be the full length of a generation according to Moses, a significant year based on the Lord's prophecy of the fig tree.
4. Also, we have realized that it is absurd to teach that we cannot know the year that the seventieth week begins. The prophecy was given by Daniel so that they could know the year that Jesus would be crucified. You can't use this prophecy to determine when the 69th week is and then say you can't use it to determine when the 70th week is. This brought us to the meaning of the 70th week. That in turn reminded us of the Lord's word that we are to forgive 70x7 times. That is what the 70th week is, it is 70x7. This age ends with a 70th week for the entire earth, both Jews and Gentiles. This is also what we see in Revelation, that the gospel of grace does come to an end. We see the period of God's forgiveness to both Jews and Gentiles expires and then God pours out His wrath. This also explains the pause after the Messiah is cut off. The Jews are given a "time out", a period of punishment to think about what they have done while the gospel goes to the four corners of the earth. 4 x 70 x 7 = 1960. In 70AD the temple was destroyed, the Jews scattered and the gospel went to the four corners of the earth. 1,960 years later is 2030. Therefore we can expect that 9th of Av in 2030 is when the gospel of grace expires. In 71 AD the Romans celebrated the defeat of Israel and so we can expect in 2031 we will see the armies of Armageddon assemble.
5. We also know that a shemitah, a week of seven years always begins on the first day of the year. We have had some dispute over whether that is Nisan or Tishrei, but the argument is foolish. If you see that this is the 70th week for the entire earth then it must begin on the birthday for the entire earth which is Tishrei 1, or Feast of Trumpets. The Feast of trumpets announces the coming of the King. Think of Jacob making a covenant with Laban for Rachel. The minute he makes that covenant it is like a trumpet blowing for Rachel that Jacob is coming and will be there in seven years. Seven years later we would have the day of judgment and then prepare for the wedding feast. That is clearly a picture of the day of atonement followed by Feast of Tabernacles five days later.
6. This is a love story. That is why Antichrist will be revealed at the start of the seventieth week. This is how the Lord sorts out those that love Him and those that love the world. The temptation of the world has been here the entire church age, however, during the last seven years everything is sped up because we no longer have time for a slow and deliberate work. Think of the church age as a time of refining silver. You melt the ore, the impurities float to the surface and you skim them off. Every time you do that the silver becomes more pure. You can add elements that will attract the impurities and make them clump together. That is what the Antichrist is. The stuff you skim off is called "slag" but it still might have some silver in it. So you can crush and melt this as well to try and get a little more silver out of the slag. That is what "The tribulation is". The Lord takes the pure silver in the rapture. This leaves behind slag which still has small bits of silver. That is crushed, melted and refined to get that last bit of silver.
7. Therefore, if we have learned all these things this means that Antichrist should be revealed on Tishrei 1 of 2025. Which is something else we learned. The watchmen learned that the feasts of the Lord were prophetic. So they began studying them and in every feast you saw a shadow of the resurrection life which can be likened to rapture. That is because Jesus is the resurrection and the life. The feasts of the Lord are prophetic for the key days of the Lord Jesus. This is why He said "no one knows the day or the hour" concerning the rapture. The feasts of the Lord are not the key days of the bride, they are the key days of the Lord. Jesus was crucified on Passover, but believers can receive Jesus Christ as their Passover on any day of the year. However, the Feast of Tabernacles is a feast of the marriage of Jesus and the Bride. That day is a day we can hang our hat on for both the Lord Jesus and the Bride. The Feast of Trumpets is when the seven year period known as "the Tribulation" begins. It also marks the beginning of Jacob's trouble. Basically the Feast of trumpets is known as "the longest day" and is two days. The next day begins an eight day count to the Day of Judgement and that period is called Jacob's trouble. The longest day would have started on Tishrei 1 2020 when the UN declared a global pandemic. That would be when there was no moon visible, it was very dark. On Tishrei 1 2021 they began vaccine mandates illegally and at that point you could see the sliver of the moon. On Tishrei 1 2022 the feast of Trumpets would be over and Jacob's trouble would officially begin. At first we see a populist movement spread across the globe. Then in 2023 we see Hamas attack Israel. This would take us to 2031 at which time that year (Fall of 2031 to fall of 2032) would be the day of Judgement for the earth. However, you can also say that Jacob's trouble is seven years because of the seven years Jacob works for Rachel. That would be the fall of 2029, Apophis is supposed to hit the earth in the Spring of 2029 and if this is the mid point of the tribulation it would be when the Jews that receive Jesus as the Messiah flee Jerusalem.
1. May 14, 1948 is a critical date. This is the "birthday" for the modern state of Israel. We can debate the year and day that Jesus was born or crucified, but there are certain dates that have been given to us as a firm nail that we can hang our hat on and the importance of this date is first and foremost.
2. Israel is now 77 years old, we learned how significant this was since Jacob a shadow of Israel was around 77 years old when he began working seven years to marry Rachel. We can see the wedding of both Rachel and Leah over a seven day period as a type of the Feast of Tabernacles which would be the conclusion of the seven year period known as "the tribulation".
3. These two things have helped to focus watchmen. There is no word in the New Testament that says we cannot know the year of the rapture. Because of this we have seen many other connections. For example, if the seven year tribulation begins in 2025 then Israel will be 80 at the mid point of this tribulation and that would be the full length of a generation according to Moses, a significant year based on the Lord's prophecy of the fig tree.
4. Also, we have realized that it is absurd to teach that we cannot know the year that the seventieth week begins. The prophecy was given by Daniel so that they could know the year that Jesus would be crucified. You can't use this prophecy to determine when the 69th week is and then say you can't use it to determine when the 70th week is. This brought us to the meaning of the 70th week. That in turn reminded us of the Lord's word that we are to forgive 70x7 times. That is what the 70th week is, it is 70x7. This age ends with a 70th week for the entire earth, both Jews and Gentiles. This is also what we see in Revelation, that the gospel of grace does come to an end. We see the period of God's forgiveness to both Jews and Gentiles expires and then God pours out His wrath. This also explains the pause after the Messiah is cut off. The Jews are given a "time out", a period of punishment to think about what they have done while the gospel goes to the four corners of the earth. 4 x 70 x 7 = 1960. In 70AD the temple was destroyed, the Jews scattered and the gospel went to the four corners of the earth. 1,960 years later is 2030. Therefore we can expect that 9th of Av in 2030 is when the gospel of grace expires. In 71 AD the Romans celebrated the defeat of Israel and so we can expect in 2031 we will see the armies of Armageddon assemble.
5. We also know that a shemitah, a week of seven years always begins on the first day of the year. We have had some dispute over whether that is Nisan or Tishrei, but the argument is foolish. If you see that this is the 70th week for the entire earth then it must begin on the birthday for the entire earth which is Tishrei 1, or Feast of Trumpets. The Feast of trumpets announces the coming of the King. Think of Jacob making a covenant with Laban for Rachel. The minute he makes that covenant it is like a trumpet blowing for Rachel that Jacob is coming and will be there in seven years. Seven years later we would have the day of judgment and then prepare for the wedding feast. That is clearly a picture of the day of atonement followed by Feast of Tabernacles five days later.
6. This is a love story. That is why Antichrist will be revealed at the start of the seventieth week. This is how the Lord sorts out those that love Him and those that love the world. The temptation of the world has been here the entire church age, however, during the last seven years everything is sped up because we no longer have time for a slow and deliberate work. Think of the church age as a time of refining silver. You melt the ore, the impurities float to the surface and you skim them off. Every time you do that the silver becomes more pure. You can add elements that will attract the impurities and make them clump together. That is what the Antichrist is. The stuff you skim off is called "slag" but it still might have some silver in it. So you can crush and melt this as well to try and get a little more silver out of the slag. That is what "The tribulation is". The Lord takes the pure silver in the rapture. This leaves behind slag which still has small bits of silver. That is crushed, melted and refined to get that last bit of silver.
7. Therefore, if we have learned all these things this means that Antichrist should be revealed on Tishrei 1 of 2025. Which is something else we learned. The watchmen learned that the feasts of the Lord were prophetic. So they began studying them and in every feast you saw a shadow of the resurrection life which can be likened to rapture. That is because Jesus is the resurrection and the life. The feasts of the Lord are prophetic for the key days of the Lord Jesus. This is why He said "no one knows the day or the hour" concerning the rapture. The feasts of the Lord are not the key days of the bride, they are the key days of the Lord. Jesus was crucified on Passover, but believers can receive Jesus Christ as their Passover on any day of the year. However, the Feast of Tabernacles is a feast of the marriage of Jesus and the Bride. That day is a day we can hang our hat on for both the Lord Jesus and the Bride. The Feast of Trumpets is when the seven year period known as "the Tribulation" begins. It also marks the beginning of Jacob's trouble. Basically the Feast of trumpets is known as "the longest day" and is two days. The next day begins an eight day count to the Day of Judgement and that period is called Jacob's trouble. The longest day would have started on Tishrei 1 2020 when the UN declared a global pandemic. That would be when there was no moon visible, it was very dark. On Tishrei 1 2021 they began vaccine mandates illegally and at that point you could see the sliver of the moon. On Tishrei 1 2022 the feast of Trumpets would be over and Jacob's trouble would officially begin. At first we see a populist movement spread across the globe. Then in 2023 we see Hamas attack Israel. This would take us to 2031 at which time that year (Fall of 2031 to fall of 2032) would be the day of Judgement for the earth. However, you can also say that Jacob's trouble is seven years because of the seven years Jacob works for Rachel. That would be the fall of 2029, Apophis is supposed to hit the earth in the Spring of 2029 and if this is the mid point of the tribulation it would be when the Jews that receive Jesus as the Messiah flee Jerusalem.
Reflecting on key points we have discovered over the last five years (part 1)
The global Pandemic
First you have to realize the global pandemic was a very significant event that was prophesied in the book of Joel.
The book of Joel begins telling us this is an event that has never happened in human history. Many people will argue that we have had pandemics before. So that is not what Joel is talking about.
First he describes a Frankenstein bug that is like five different bugs all stitched into one bug. Seeing as the evidence is very strong that Covid19 was created in a bioweapons lab that would be one key criteria that would eliminate Black Plague, Bubonic plague and even the Spanish flu. But the emphasis in Joel is not that this bug kills people but that it destroys the economy. At the time of Joel the economy was agricultural based and these bugs eat leaves, stems, bark, and everything. Also in Joel it describes what is taking place as God declaring a global sabbath day rest. Think about the Sabbath day laws. Businesses are closed, just as they were in Covid. You aren't allowed to travel very far, again, just as in covid. That is what had never happened before in human history, God declaring a global sabbath day rest, not for the purpose of resting but for the purpose of fasting because the day of the Lord is at hand. That term is very important, it means "next door". So the global pandemic which shut down businesses around the world is the event that takes place "right next door" to the Day of the Lord. Joel describes other things taking place as well, he precisely describes social distancing and he makes it clear this bug will go into places like the Whitehouse (you may remember that Trump got Covid19). Joel is also the book that tells us God will be giving people dreams and visions. I got saved in 1972, I never saw so many rapture dreams as I have seen in the last five years. Joel also tells us that the event that takes place immediately before the day of the Lord is that the world leaders will "divide God's land". This is what the current Saudi peace plan is proposing.
The Revelation 12 sign
I have spoken extensively on this sign in this blog. In 2017 there was a sign in the heavens that showed the woman (Virgo) crowned with 12 stars (the stars in Leo plus the wandering stars), in her womb was Jupiter which had been there for nine months after the conception comet came from the Lion and appeared to impregnate Virgo. After nine months Jupiter came out of Virgo's womb. We call this the Revelation 12 sign because it was what is described in Revelation 12. In the last six thousand years of human history we have only seen a sign similar to this sign once before, it would have been at the time of Adam and Eve and could have signified the seed of the woman crushing the serpents head. This sign caused many to wake up and begin saying that the rapture was about to take place. However, we then learned that the word for Manchild does not refer to an infant, it refers to a child. If you are not familiar with this sign you should look it up because it is a very significant event. See post #2,666
The writing on the Wall sign
This one I found to be even more amazing. Again, probably the first time in human history this has happened. Beginning in August of 2017, then Fall of 2023 and the Spring of 2024 we had three solar eclipses traverse the continental United States from one end to the other. The paths of total eclipse traced out the Hebrew letters Aleph and Tav. In Greek that would be "Alpha and Omega". It was as though the Lord Jesus traced his initials on the US. The path is then interpreted based on the places this crossed. The first eclipse crossed over Oregon near the Columbia gorge, the single most impressive remnant from Noah's flood in the US and then crossed the East coast at the place where the US civil war began. In that path it went over seven cities names Salem which we interpreted to mean we would have seven years of peace from 2017 to 2024 (in the US). The second one also started in that same spot near the Columbia gorge and finished at the place where the Civil war officially ended. The third one crossed these two lines crossing the US at our border with Mexico, going directly over Uvalde (where there was a horrific school shooting) and intersecting the first path at a place called "Little Egypt" and going over a place where they have a yearly festival for the gathering of the vultures. This third path went over a place called Rapture Indiana, which I think might be the only place in the US named that, and it left the US at Maine along our border with Canada with the last place it crossed being the Post road, indicating this was a letter sent to us by Jesus. The interpretation of the writing on the wall sign was that the Great Babylon (the US) has been weighed in the balance, found wanting and will be destroyed.
Here is a summary of what I posted on this blog concerning the Writing on the Wall sign along with what I have shared on Daniel.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vTKT7SKSow7Ihz83lcqErW50IG5Hod9w/view?usp=sharing
The global Pandemic
First you have to realize the global pandemic was a very significant event that was prophesied in the book of Joel.
The book of Joel begins telling us this is an event that has never happened in human history. Many people will argue that we have had pandemics before. So that is not what Joel is talking about.
First he describes a Frankenstein bug that is like five different bugs all stitched into one bug. Seeing as the evidence is very strong that Covid19 was created in a bioweapons lab that would be one key criteria that would eliminate Black Plague, Bubonic plague and even the Spanish flu. But the emphasis in Joel is not that this bug kills people but that it destroys the economy. At the time of Joel the economy was agricultural based and these bugs eat leaves, stems, bark, and everything. Also in Joel it describes what is taking place as God declaring a global sabbath day rest. Think about the Sabbath day laws. Businesses are closed, just as they were in Covid. You aren't allowed to travel very far, again, just as in covid. That is what had never happened before in human history, God declaring a global sabbath day rest, not for the purpose of resting but for the purpose of fasting because the day of the Lord is at hand. That term is very important, it means "next door". So the global pandemic which shut down businesses around the world is the event that takes place "right next door" to the Day of the Lord. Joel describes other things taking place as well, he precisely describes social distancing and he makes it clear this bug will go into places like the Whitehouse (you may remember that Trump got Covid19). Joel is also the book that tells us God will be giving people dreams and visions. I got saved in 1972, I never saw so many rapture dreams as I have seen in the last five years. Joel also tells us that the event that takes place immediately before the day of the Lord is that the world leaders will "divide God's land". This is what the current Saudi peace plan is proposing.
The Revelation 12 sign
I have spoken extensively on this sign in this blog. In 2017 there was a sign in the heavens that showed the woman (Virgo) crowned with 12 stars (the stars in Leo plus the wandering stars), in her womb was Jupiter which had been there for nine months after the conception comet came from the Lion and appeared to impregnate Virgo. After nine months Jupiter came out of Virgo's womb. We call this the Revelation 12 sign because it was what is described in Revelation 12. In the last six thousand years of human history we have only seen a sign similar to this sign once before, it would have been at the time of Adam and Eve and could have signified the seed of the woman crushing the serpents head. This sign caused many to wake up and begin saying that the rapture was about to take place. However, we then learned that the word for Manchild does not refer to an infant, it refers to a child. If you are not familiar with this sign you should look it up because it is a very significant event. See post #2,666
The writing on the Wall sign
This one I found to be even more amazing. Again, probably the first time in human history this has happened. Beginning in August of 2017, then Fall of 2023 and the Spring of 2024 we had three solar eclipses traverse the continental United States from one end to the other. The paths of total eclipse traced out the Hebrew letters Aleph and Tav. In Greek that would be "Alpha and Omega". It was as though the Lord Jesus traced his initials on the US. The path is then interpreted based on the places this crossed. The first eclipse crossed over Oregon near the Columbia gorge, the single most impressive remnant from Noah's flood in the US and then crossed the East coast at the place where the US civil war began. In that path it went over seven cities names Salem which we interpreted to mean we would have seven years of peace from 2017 to 2024 (in the US). The second one also started in that same spot near the Columbia gorge and finished at the place where the Civil war officially ended. The third one crossed these two lines crossing the US at our border with Mexico, going directly over Uvalde (where there was a horrific school shooting) and intersecting the first path at a place called "Little Egypt" and going over a place where they have a yearly festival for the gathering of the vultures. This third path went over a place called Rapture Indiana, which I think might be the only place in the US named that, and it left the US at Maine along our border with Canada with the last place it crossed being the Post road, indicating this was a letter sent to us by Jesus. The interpretation of the writing on the wall sign was that the Great Babylon (the US) has been weighed in the balance, found wanting and will be destroyed.
Here is a summary of what I posted on this blog concerning the Writing on the Wall sign along with what I have shared on Daniel.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vTKT7SKSow7Ihz83lcqErW50IG5Hod9w/view?usp=sharing
Reflecting on key points we have discovered over the last five years (part 1b)
Here is a discussion of the book of Joel
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13NxsCdR9nUF8O-J0bktOhkoTIuhymTGF/view?usp=sharing
Here is a discussion of the book of Joel
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13NxsCdR9nUF8O-J0bktOhkoTIuhymTGF/view?usp=sharing
Reflecting on key points we have discovered over the last five years, part 2a
Who is the Great Babylon?
I have heard many different theories, and every theory I have heard has been based on the
Bible, but none of them put together all the pieces. I was taught that the Great Babylon was the whore who was on the seven hills, that refers to Rome and so she was the Vatican. That teaching came from JN Darby and Watchman Nee also subscribed to that teaching. However, both of those brothers taught the word prior to the US being the superpower on the earth. From their perspective the Vatican was clearly the best candidate. But today the US is the only possible candidate that fulfills all the criteria.
Matthew 1:11 and Josiah the father of Jechoniah and his brothers, at the time of the
deportation to Babylon.
This is the first use of Babylon in the New Testament and it is used three times in chapter 1
of Matthew, every time with a reference to this word translated here as "deportation"
(metoikesia).
Definition of metoikesia -- removal from one abode to another, esp. a forced removal
In the Old Testament there was a removal of people from Israel to Babylon. How about in the church age? This is a key criteria to identify Babylon in the New Testament. I think it is simple to eliminate Iraq, in all of the church history there has not been a great removal of people from one place to Iraq. I think we can also eliminate the Vatican. They might be the
puppeteer but certainly there has been no great removal of people to go live in the Vatican. In fact, when I visited Taiwan and Asia that is what struck me, how homogenous the population was. There has not been a great removal of people to go live in Asia. No, during the last two thousand years there has been one great removal of people to go live in the
New World. That can refer to both North and South America, but primarily it would refer to the US.
When we look at the description we learn the following: concerning the Great Babylon at the
end of the age:
1. Is the place where the believers moved to. That could be the US or Israel.
2. They were the country that God considered His people that practiced abortion (could be
US or Israel) and
3. A place that celebrated the star of Replan. That could refer to either the US, UK or Catholic church, but not to Iraq or Israel.
4. It is also the country where the evangelists to the whole world sent out the message. That could refer to the US, UK or Catholic church.
5. It is the nation that made all the nations of the earth drink the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality. This cannot refer to the Catholic church. It can refer to the US with Hollywood and the Music industry.
6. They are the glory of Kingdoms. At one point in history that might have referred to the Catholic church, later to the UK, but today that can only refer to the US.
7. It is where the most elite military is. That could refer to either the US or Israel.
8. They have become like Sodom and Gomorrah. That could refer to the US, UK or Israel.
9. It is clear in Revelation 16 that Jerusalem is not the Great Babylon and neither are the great cities of the nations. Given the context of when the book of Revelation was written this could only refer to the US because the Great Babylon was still a mystery 2,000 years ago.
10. We are told that the Great Babylon will be thoroughly and utterly cut off and sure enough in the book of Revelation we see absolutely nothing concerning the US. The fact that the last seven years center on the Middle East and Israel is proof positive that they are not the Great Babylon that is judged at the start of the tribulation.
11. In Revelation 17 we see that the Great whore sits on many waters. The United States sits on the Bering Sea, the Beaufort Sea, Chukchi Sea, the Arctic ocean, the Pacific Ocean, the Gulf of Mexico, and the Atlantic Ocean. We have military bases on the Indian Ocean, the Caribbean Sea and Mediterranean Sea. This used to apply to the UK but no more and this could also be said of the Catholic church.
12. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls. Yes, the Catholic church is arrayed in purple and scarlet, but so are a number of other denominations. They are not, however, arrayed in gold, precious stones and pearls. That would be the prosperity gospel, rappers, Music industry and Hollywood elites.
13. having a golden cup in her hand In the Bible gold refers to the word of God. The Catholic church could claim to have the Bible, the UK used to be the center of evangelism to the world, and now today it is the US that is the country sending out missionaries. When it comes to handing out Bibles no country can compare to the US. The top two ministries for distributing Bibles are headquartered in the US, and they have distributed so many Bibles it is absurd to even consider any other ministry.
14. full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication. So yes, you can argue that the Catholic church is full of idols (abominations). You can claim that something like 3% of the priests are involved in filthy fornication, but that is not "full". No, the US sends out missionaries to the whole world with Bibles, but they also send out their multinational corporations like McDonalds, Coca Cola, Hollywood, Music industry, and the arms industry. Both the music industry and Hollywood are full of the filthiness of her fornication.
Who is the Great Babylon?
I have heard many different theories, and every theory I have heard has been based on the
Bible, but none of them put together all the pieces. I was taught that the Great Babylon was the whore who was on the seven hills, that refers to Rome and so she was the Vatican. That teaching came from JN Darby and Watchman Nee also subscribed to that teaching. However, both of those brothers taught the word prior to the US being the superpower on the earth. From their perspective the Vatican was clearly the best candidate. But today the US is the only possible candidate that fulfills all the criteria.
Matthew 1:11 and Josiah the father of Jechoniah and his brothers, at the time of the
deportation to Babylon.
This is the first use of Babylon in the New Testament and it is used three times in chapter 1
of Matthew, every time with a reference to this word translated here as "deportation"
(metoikesia).
Definition of metoikesia -- removal from one abode to another, esp. a forced removal
In the Old Testament there was a removal of people from Israel to Babylon. How about in the church age? This is a key criteria to identify Babylon in the New Testament. I think it is simple to eliminate Iraq, in all of the church history there has not been a great removal of people from one place to Iraq. I think we can also eliminate the Vatican. They might be the
puppeteer but certainly there has been no great removal of people to go live in the Vatican. In fact, when I visited Taiwan and Asia that is what struck me, how homogenous the population was. There has not been a great removal of people to go live in Asia. No, during the last two thousand years there has been one great removal of people to go live in the
New World. That can refer to both North and South America, but primarily it would refer to the US.
When we look at the description we learn the following: concerning the Great Babylon at the
end of the age:
1. Is the place where the believers moved to. That could be the US or Israel.
2. They were the country that God considered His people that practiced abortion (could be
US or Israel) and
3. A place that celebrated the star of Replan. That could refer to either the US, UK or Catholic church, but not to Iraq or Israel.
4. It is also the country where the evangelists to the whole world sent out the message. That could refer to the US, UK or Catholic church.
5. It is the nation that made all the nations of the earth drink the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality. This cannot refer to the Catholic church. It can refer to the US with Hollywood and the Music industry.
6. They are the glory of Kingdoms. At one point in history that might have referred to the Catholic church, later to the UK, but today that can only refer to the US.
7. It is where the most elite military is. That could refer to either the US or Israel.
8. They have become like Sodom and Gomorrah. That could refer to the US, UK or Israel.
9. It is clear in Revelation 16 that Jerusalem is not the Great Babylon and neither are the great cities of the nations. Given the context of when the book of Revelation was written this could only refer to the US because the Great Babylon was still a mystery 2,000 years ago.
10. We are told that the Great Babylon will be thoroughly and utterly cut off and sure enough in the book of Revelation we see absolutely nothing concerning the US. The fact that the last seven years center on the Middle East and Israel is proof positive that they are not the Great Babylon that is judged at the start of the tribulation.
11. In Revelation 17 we see that the Great whore sits on many waters. The United States sits on the Bering Sea, the Beaufort Sea, Chukchi Sea, the Arctic ocean, the Pacific Ocean, the Gulf of Mexico, and the Atlantic Ocean. We have military bases on the Indian Ocean, the Caribbean Sea and Mediterranean Sea. This used to apply to the UK but no more and this could also be said of the Catholic church.
12. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls. Yes, the Catholic church is arrayed in purple and scarlet, but so are a number of other denominations. They are not, however, arrayed in gold, precious stones and pearls. That would be the prosperity gospel, rappers, Music industry and Hollywood elites.
13. having a golden cup in her hand In the Bible gold refers to the word of God. The Catholic church could claim to have the Bible, the UK used to be the center of evangelism to the world, and now today it is the US that is the country sending out missionaries. When it comes to handing out Bibles no country can compare to the US. The top two ministries for distributing Bibles are headquartered in the US, and they have distributed so many Bibles it is absurd to even consider any other ministry.
14. full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication. So yes, you can argue that the Catholic church is full of idols (abominations). You can claim that something like 3% of the priests are involved in filthy fornication, but that is not "full". No, the US sends out missionaries to the whole world with Bibles, but they also send out their multinational corporations like McDonalds, Coca Cola, Hollywood, Music industry, and the arms industry. Both the music industry and Hollywood are full of the filthiness of her fornication.
Reflecting on key points we have discovered over the last five years, part 2b
15. And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth. Yes, the Catholic church can be considered the mother of the denominations and they have some idols and yes the UK can be considered the mother of the US. However, the US is the mother of harlots (multinational corporations) and Abominations (idolatry).
16. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: History is very clear that the Catholic church has been involved in the martyrdom of Christians. However, some really horrific information has begun to come to light based on human trafficking, Epstein Island, and something called Adrenochrome that this is not something figurative, but in the US this is literally what has been going on.
17. And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. This is the key verse that is used to tie the Catholic church to the Great Babylon. But the Vatican sits on Rome which is a city on seven hills, not mountains. Meanwhile the US has 750 military bases on 80 other countries. The US has bases and installations on all seven continents. The UK has the second most with 13 military bases on other countries.
18. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. The UN currently has a plan to divide the earth into ten regions. This is referred to as a "globalist agenda". They want one world government with ten regions like ten states. The only thing standing in their way is the "populist movement". You see some protests in the UK (Brexit) and the MAGA movement in the US is a populist movement. The primary objection to this one world government are Evangelical Christians who see this as the Antichrist kingdom prophesied in the Bible. They also want one world religion which unites Catholicism, Judaism, and Islam under the "Noahide" laws. This would make it a crime, punishable by death, to claim that Jesus is God. So then, you can rule out the Catholic church, the only thing stopping this from coming about is the United States. Compared to the US the UK is simply a speed bump.
19. Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. We have seen at the Grammies, at the Hollywood award shows, at the Superbowl halftime show, and during the Biden administration that this is clearly the case in the US.
20. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. This verse cannot possibly refer to the Catholic church. At the time of Darby it could have referred to the UK, but it is a very precise description of the US today. The US is the biggest consumer nation in the world. Look at how rich the Middle East got from selling oil to us, and how rich China got from selling stuff to us.
21. And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. This also eliminates the Catholic church. If you understand that Thyatira represents the Catholic church you can see that you can be saved within the Catholic church so long as you don't know the deep things of Satan that are there. The only church that believers are told to come out of is Laodicea, which is what much of Christianity in the US has become. Church that is run by the laity. Jesus is not Lord, the Bible is not Lord, they pick and choose what they like and what they don't like.
22. How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously. That is a fair description of the prosperity gospel.
23. saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! So here Babylon is equated to a mighty city. Based on this some think it is Jerusalem but clearly we have covered many other verses that completely eliminate Jerusalem. You could equate this to Rome, but today would the kings of the Earth lament at that "great city"? Rome is more a museum of what once was. great city. Same thing with London. Yes, it is still a "great city" but more because of history than currently. No, the great city that rules over the whole earth is Washington DC. When you look at the US dollar you can see this city and this dollar is called "King dollar". No one says that about lira or pound sterling.
24. the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more. This cannot possibly refer to any other country than the US. We are the biggest consumer nation on the planet. The US imports $3.3 trillion a year. The UK imports a fourth of that. Israel imports 3% of that. That Vatican imports 0.00001% of that.
25. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, If we were talking about Jerusalem or Rome we would not be talking about every shipmaster. The same thing with London. Because the US is on every major body of water therefore every shipmaster would be impacted. Our imports don't simply come the Continental US, they also come to the bases on 80 other countries and our installations on all seven continents.
26. And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee. This is a reference to our music industry. England has a music industry, the Catholic church has music, but only the US music industry is something that the merchants from all the nations would be bewailing.
27. for thy merchants were the great men of the earth. Once again this eliminates the Vatican. The "great men of the Earth". That would be Bill Gates, that would be Bezos, that would be the Walton family. The US has 902 billionaires, more than any other country.
28. for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. The US has the most influence worldwide commercially. But this word "sorcery" refers to Pharmacy, drugs, and vaccines. We are not talking about God judging her for life saving medication. We are talking about deceiving people claiming life saving medication when what you are really pushing is sorcery. I think this may refer to the vaccine manufactured in the US and pushed on the whole world.
15. And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth. Yes, the Catholic church can be considered the mother of the denominations and they have some idols and yes the UK can be considered the mother of the US. However, the US is the mother of harlots (multinational corporations) and Abominations (idolatry).
16. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: History is very clear that the Catholic church has been involved in the martyrdom of Christians. However, some really horrific information has begun to come to light based on human trafficking, Epstein Island, and something called Adrenochrome that this is not something figurative, but in the US this is literally what has been going on.
17. And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. This is the key verse that is used to tie the Catholic church to the Great Babylon. But the Vatican sits on Rome which is a city on seven hills, not mountains. Meanwhile the US has 750 military bases on 80 other countries. The US has bases and installations on all seven continents. The UK has the second most with 13 military bases on other countries.
18. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. The UN currently has a plan to divide the earth into ten regions. This is referred to as a "globalist agenda". They want one world government with ten regions like ten states. The only thing standing in their way is the "populist movement". You see some protests in the UK (Brexit) and the MAGA movement in the US is a populist movement. The primary objection to this one world government are Evangelical Christians who see this as the Antichrist kingdom prophesied in the Bible. They also want one world religion which unites Catholicism, Judaism, and Islam under the "Noahide" laws. This would make it a crime, punishable by death, to claim that Jesus is God. So then, you can rule out the Catholic church, the only thing stopping this from coming about is the United States. Compared to the US the UK is simply a speed bump.
19. Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. We have seen at the Grammies, at the Hollywood award shows, at the Superbowl halftime show, and during the Biden administration that this is clearly the case in the US.
20. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. This verse cannot possibly refer to the Catholic church. At the time of Darby it could have referred to the UK, but it is a very precise description of the US today. The US is the biggest consumer nation in the world. Look at how rich the Middle East got from selling oil to us, and how rich China got from selling stuff to us.
21. And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. This also eliminates the Catholic church. If you understand that Thyatira represents the Catholic church you can see that you can be saved within the Catholic church so long as you don't know the deep things of Satan that are there. The only church that believers are told to come out of is Laodicea, which is what much of Christianity in the US has become. Church that is run by the laity. Jesus is not Lord, the Bible is not Lord, they pick and choose what they like and what they don't like.
22. How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously. That is a fair description of the prosperity gospel.
23. saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! So here Babylon is equated to a mighty city. Based on this some think it is Jerusalem but clearly we have covered many other verses that completely eliminate Jerusalem. You could equate this to Rome, but today would the kings of the Earth lament at that "great city"? Rome is more a museum of what once was. great city. Same thing with London. Yes, it is still a "great city" but more because of history than currently. No, the great city that rules over the whole earth is Washington DC. When you look at the US dollar you can see this city and this dollar is called "King dollar". No one says that about lira or pound sterling.
24. the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more. This cannot possibly refer to any other country than the US. We are the biggest consumer nation on the planet. The US imports $3.3 trillion a year. The UK imports a fourth of that. Israel imports 3% of that. That Vatican imports 0.00001% of that.
25. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, If we were talking about Jerusalem or Rome we would not be talking about every shipmaster. The same thing with London. Because the US is on every major body of water therefore every shipmaster would be impacted. Our imports don't simply come the Continental US, they also come to the bases on 80 other countries and our installations on all seven continents.
26. And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee. This is a reference to our music industry. England has a music industry, the Catholic church has music, but only the US music industry is something that the merchants from all the nations would be bewailing.
27. for thy merchants were the great men of the earth. Once again this eliminates the Vatican. The "great men of the Earth". That would be Bill Gates, that would be Bezos, that would be the Walton family. The US has 902 billionaires, more than any other country.
28. for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. The US has the most influence worldwide commercially. But this word "sorcery" refers to Pharmacy, drugs, and vaccines. We are not talking about God judging her for life saving medication. We are talking about deceiving people claiming life saving medication when what you are really pushing is sorcery. I think this may refer to the vaccine manufactured in the US and pushed on the whole world.
Reflecting on points we have discovered over the last five years part 3
The traditional day for Jesus ascension and for Pentecost are not Biblical.
According to Acts 1:3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
Jesus appeared to the Disciples 40 times after his resurrection.
1st time -- John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
2nd Time -- John 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
3rd time -- John 21:1 After these things Jesus shewed himself again to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he himself. 2 There were together Simon Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, and the sons of Zebedee, and two other of his disciples.
The Sea of Tiberius is at least four days journey from Jerusalem. Therefore this is now the 13th or 14th day after the resurrection at least. If we add 37 more days to get to the fortieth time we get 50 or 51 days from the Resurrection to the Ascension. This is not trivial, the feasts of the Lord are prophetic, they are a shadow of things to come. Jesus ascension fulfilled Shavuot.
Acts 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
They are all assembled in Jerusalem for Shavuot. If this is the night before Shavuot why would they leave? This is one piece of evidence that the ascension was at Shavuot.
Acts 1:12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
This is the second piece of evidence, it shows they had already been in Jerusalem for Shavuot and this did not happen on the way to Jerusalem.
Acts 1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,) 16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. 17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.
This is the third and fourth piece of evidence. Those days refers to the days they remained in Jerusalem.
So from the Bible we know that it was at least 50 or 51 days after the resurrection that Jesus ascended. We know that the disciples had all gone to Jerusalem and then watched as Jesus ascended and then returned to Jerusalem. This was obviously during Shavuot and Jesus telling them to remain would have been completely unnecessary if Shavuot had not yet taken place. We know that they remained in Jerusalem for multiple days, and during that time they had an election to replace Judas.
Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
This verse also indicates a passage of time more than simply a couple of days.
Acts 2:13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
This verse indicates that "Pentecost" refers to the feast of new wine which is 50 days after Shavuot.
Acts 2:15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
This verse also confirms that this is the Feast of new wine. This statement makes no sense at all as proof that they aren't drunk on new wine except for one day, the day the Priests pour out the new wine onto the earth at the third hour of the day. That would be the only day and the only time of that day that you could prove men were not drunk on new wine. Before you could drink the new wine it had to be blessed by the Priests.
Luke 5:35 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.
This describes Jesus ascension and the fifty days where they fasted and prayed in the upper room.
36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old. 37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.
The Holy Spirit was poured out onto the Earth at the 3rd hour as a fulfillment of this prophecy. The church is filled with new wine, that is the Spirit. 38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.
The church is the new bottle that holds the new wine. Pentecost was the beginning of the church, the bottle that holds the Spirit.
Jesus conception, birth, circumcision, crucifixion, death and burial and resurrection all took place on Feasts of the Lord. This proves that the Ascension also took place on a feast of the Lord. Now consider this, if all the Feasts of the Lord are prophetic, a shadow of things to come, what about the feast of the church? We are given two feast days, one is the Lord's table and the other is Pentecost. Are these two feasts prophetic, a shadow of things to come? The way you count for Pentecost means that it will always be on the Lord's day. The day after the seventh sabbath.
The traditional day for Jesus ascension and for Pentecost are not Biblical.
According to Acts 1:3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
Jesus appeared to the Disciples 40 times after his resurrection.
1st time -- John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
2nd Time -- John 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
3rd time -- John 21:1 After these things Jesus shewed himself again to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he himself. 2 There were together Simon Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, and the sons of Zebedee, and two other of his disciples.
The Sea of Tiberius is at least four days journey from Jerusalem. Therefore this is now the 13th or 14th day after the resurrection at least. If we add 37 more days to get to the fortieth time we get 50 or 51 days from the Resurrection to the Ascension. This is not trivial, the feasts of the Lord are prophetic, they are a shadow of things to come. Jesus ascension fulfilled Shavuot.
Acts 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
They are all assembled in Jerusalem for Shavuot. If this is the night before Shavuot why would they leave? This is one piece of evidence that the ascension was at Shavuot.
Acts 1:12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
This is the second piece of evidence, it shows they had already been in Jerusalem for Shavuot and this did not happen on the way to Jerusalem.
Acts 1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,) 16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. 17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.
This is the third and fourth piece of evidence. Those days refers to the days they remained in Jerusalem.
So from the Bible we know that it was at least 50 or 51 days after the resurrection that Jesus ascended. We know that the disciples had all gone to Jerusalem and then watched as Jesus ascended and then returned to Jerusalem. This was obviously during Shavuot and Jesus telling them to remain would have been completely unnecessary if Shavuot had not yet taken place. We know that they remained in Jerusalem for multiple days, and during that time they had an election to replace Judas.
Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
This verse also indicates a passage of time more than simply a couple of days.
Acts 2:13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
This verse indicates that "Pentecost" refers to the feast of new wine which is 50 days after Shavuot.
Acts 2:15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
This verse also confirms that this is the Feast of new wine. This statement makes no sense at all as proof that they aren't drunk on new wine except for one day, the day the Priests pour out the new wine onto the earth at the third hour of the day. That would be the only day and the only time of that day that you could prove men were not drunk on new wine. Before you could drink the new wine it had to be blessed by the Priests.
Luke 5:35 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.
This describes Jesus ascension and the fifty days where they fasted and prayed in the upper room.
36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old. 37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.
The Holy Spirit was poured out onto the Earth at the 3rd hour as a fulfillment of this prophecy. The church is filled with new wine, that is the Spirit. 38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.
The church is the new bottle that holds the new wine. Pentecost was the beginning of the church, the bottle that holds the Spirit.
Jesus conception, birth, circumcision, crucifixion, death and burial and resurrection all took place on Feasts of the Lord. This proves that the Ascension also took place on a feast of the Lord. Now consider this, if all the Feasts of the Lord are prophetic, a shadow of things to come, what about the feast of the church? We are given two feast days, one is the Lord's table and the other is Pentecost. Are these two feasts prophetic, a shadow of things to come? The way you count for Pentecost means that it will always be on the Lord's day. The day after the seventh sabbath.
I was asked to clarify what I am saying about the day of Pentecost.
This was in response to post #14,015
This is my response:
I said that after the third time Jesus appeared 37 more times so that on Ascension day he had appeared 40 times to the disciples.
What I am saying is that the first three appearances happened over a 14 day period, maybe a 13 day period but that is unlikely. Therefore the 40th time the Lord appeared either 50 or 51 days after the resurrection.
I am also saying that when Jesus told them to stay in Jerusalem He said they needed to "return" meaning they were just there for Shavuot. Why would they leave Jerusalem if this was happening before Shavuot? Makes no sense.
I am also saying that the evidence is overwhelming that the disciples stayed for multiple days after the ascension and before Pentecost.
I am also saying that the fact that it is the third hour of the day is not proof that someone is not drunk on new wine unless this is the Feast of New Wine, because on that day the Priest pours out the new wine onto the earth at the third hour to bless it and only after he does that do they drink new wine.
I am also saying that in the gospels Jesus made it clear that the church is the bottle that holds new wine. We are a new wine skin. Hence the first day that the church began and was filled with the Spirit is likened by the Lord to pouring new wine into new wine skins.
I am also saying that the Lord told us to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees, that is their traditional teaching and that includes the day of the Ascension and the day of Pentecost.
I am also saying that Jesus' ascension fulfilled Shavuot.
And in conclusion I am saying all this is important because this means Pentecost is a feast of the church, not one of the feasts of the Lord in Leviticus and it is a shadow of things to come just as Paul said.
This was in response to post #14,015
This is my response:
I said that after the third time Jesus appeared 37 more times so that on Ascension day he had appeared 40 times to the disciples.
What I am saying is that the first three appearances happened over a 14 day period, maybe a 13 day period but that is unlikely. Therefore the 40th time the Lord appeared either 50 or 51 days after the resurrection.
I am also saying that when Jesus told them to stay in Jerusalem He said they needed to "return" meaning they were just there for Shavuot. Why would they leave Jerusalem if this was happening before Shavuot? Makes no sense.
I am also saying that the evidence is overwhelming that the disciples stayed for multiple days after the ascension and before Pentecost.
I am also saying that the fact that it is the third hour of the day is not proof that someone is not drunk on new wine unless this is the Feast of New Wine, because on that day the Priest pours out the new wine onto the earth at the third hour to bless it and only after he does that do they drink new wine.
I am also saying that in the gospels Jesus made it clear that the church is the bottle that holds new wine. We are a new wine skin. Hence the first day that the church began and was filled with the Spirit is likened by the Lord to pouring new wine into new wine skins.
I am also saying that the Lord told us to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees, that is their traditional teaching and that includes the day of the Ascension and the day of Pentecost.
I am also saying that Jesus' ascension fulfilled Shavuot.
And in conclusion I am saying all this is important because this means Pentecost is a feast of the church, not one of the feasts of the Lord in Leviticus and it is a shadow of things to come just as Paul said.