Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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The Back Door

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The Lord tells the woman "I need you to work", the elevator being broken so that you had to take the stairs was a message I need you to work, no easy way. The man with the day old bread was a word, I don't want the day old bread, I want you to go to the word to get a fresh message.

I will share my testimony. When I started this blog I felt if 10 people read it then even if only 10% of the world are Christians we could be sharing the word to the world. When I got to 100 people I realized that there would be a lot of overlap, probably 80% of those reading this are Christians, but still if we all got to 100 people then even if we only represent 5% of the world's population we could reach everyone. When I got to 1,000 I began to realize OK, maybe we only represent 1% of the world's population, and maybe 90% of those reading this are Christians but still we could all reach the world. I am stunned that it is now 50,000. But people are looking for the word of God. This is your proof. In the dream people are bringing food in the back door. This blog is the back door.

Then the Lord said "I have anointed you, I will lead you and guard you". I do not have the anointing that Dr. Barry Awe does. That is not me, I would never try to imitate him. I also do not have the anointing Pastor Sandy has. Again, that is not me, I would not try to imitate him. But I appreciate their anointing, and I put my faith in the Lord that I also have been anointed. I don't care how I do compared to others, only that I am faithful to the Lord.
 
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Some of this fire will get on us

In the dream the woman leaves the 5th floor (grace?) and goes to the 4th floor (creation?) while there some fire falls on her hair which she pats out. They interpret this to mean that we will have to go through the fire and will get some on us.

I had to give up my job because of the vaccine mandate and my wife did too. As a result we had to move as we could no longer afford to stay in NY. We moved to South Dakota which does not have a vaccine mandate. We sold the house which is a huge process. We have had to go through some of this fire and we did it over the last few months and even while going through this I was still able to maintain about 10 posts a day on this blog.

We are going through the fire, the Lord is with us. But let's get to work!
 
My two defensive tackles


DTBM is excellent when it comes to history and Chuck Missler is excellent when it comes to science. I view these two as my defensive tackles. They are big, solid, imposing and no one is going to push them around. They are both scholars and can take on the fullbacks of the Pharisee's team head on.
 

6 When therefore he heard that he was sick, he abode at that time two days in the place where he was.
 
Ezekiel 36:32-38 Lord Jesus, Glorify your Name.

32 Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord Jehovah, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your ways, O house of Israel.

What a wonderful, encouraging word. Suppose in 1948 Israel had been this wonderful, lush, garden of Eden. There would be no glory in the transformation. Instead, those people who had ruled over it prior to Israel returning turned it into a wasteland. Now when you see how beautiful it is 70 years later it is hard to believe anyone would want to return it to those evil men who had ruled it prior to 1948. Well it will be the same with the Earth. The Earth will be turned to a wasteland before the millennial reign. During the millennial reign it will be transformed to a glorious paradise of God’s creation. This is just one more way that we shame the enemy. So the Lord is not doing this because of what you are now, but rather because once you have been transformed by His spirit He will be glorified.

I lived in NYC, the subway is horrible, despicable. In Moscow it is beautiful, a work of art. You don't have to have a nasty, dirty, dangerous subway system, instead it can be beautiful and uplifting. In the US they tell you that the school system ranks 18th in the world. That stinks, but the truth is much worse than that. In reality the school system for about 80% of the country ranks about 30th, and the school system for about 10% of the country ranks among the top 4. There are many, many things we could do which would not cost a dime of taxpayer money that would raise our school system nationwide. One of the horrible things we do is try to force everyone to go to college. Suppose I want to be a mechanic? I would be much better off having three years of technical school working with and studying engines after 9th grade. Maybe at that time I want to be an engineer, those three years are not a waste, instead your knowledge of the engine will be very helpful. Same thing if I want to be a truck driver or plumber or electrician. It is a terrible waste of money to spend $240,000 on a liberal arts education for what? So that you can now be a cashier at Walmart? That same kid who learned to be a plumber could have spent $100,000 on a van and tools and after 4 years be making $100,000 a year.

33 Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: In the day that I shall cleanse you from all your iniquities I will also cause the cities to be inhabited, and the waste places shall be builded. 34 And the desolate land shall be tilled, whereas it was a desolation in the sight of all that passed by. 35 And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities [are] fortified [and] inhabited. 36 And the nations that shall be left round about you shall know that I Jehovah build the ruined places [and] plant that which was desolate: I Jehovah have spoken, and I will do [it].

Amen Lord. Think of all the saints in all the professions that can tell you how to make improvements by simply eliminating the crooks running everything. In our school in Brooklyn if we had $60,000 for after school tutoring you would have seen a big boost to the school. We didn't have that money, instead the Mayor spent $500,000 on getting our school new desks and chairs. Nothing was wrong with our old desks and chairs, no teacher requested this. Instead these were triangle desks that you couldn't use unless you put them together forcing four kids to sit together. It is an idiotic doctrine of how it is beneficial for kids to learn to work together. sure there are benefits to this, but making this the exclusive approach in every classroom is idiotic. Why would he do this? He wanted to give the contract to someone who donated to his campaign. True, $500,000 for our school is small potatoes, but we were a tiny fraction of the NYC school system. It is very likely that the full contract was worth over $50,000,000. Donate $5 million to the Mayor's campaign and get a $50 million contract. Then have some idiot justify it.

37 Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: I will yet for this be inquired of by the house of Israel, to do it unto them; I will increase them with men like a flock.

38 As the holy flock, as the flock of Jerusalem in her set feasts, so shall the waste cities be filled with flocks of men: and they shall know that I [am] Jehovah.

How about that! He will yet be inquired of to increase the flock during the tribulation. We are going to see a great revival in the land. That is why Satan will have no choice but to chop heads off.
 
The way this blog has settled out

I searched online for other watchmen who could provide what I don't to give this blog a complete and comprehensive approach. Over time I have settled on these 10 other watchmen who give me 11 for this team.

Defensive Tackles — Chuck Missler and DTBM. I like to think of these two as my defensive tackles, they are big, imposing and impressive anchors to my line. They push the enemies line back into his face and he has to use two blockers on each allowing the linebackers to run free. Some really solid teaching here.

Defensive Ends — Repoman64 and Gevte. These guys box in the offense. They do a great job of summarizing, compiling, and putting all the documentation out there. They turn the play in so even though they don't make many of the tackles they do a very nice job of putting this all into a box.

Linebackers — Pastor Sandy, Dr. Barry Awe, and me -- We have different areas we cover. Pastor Sandy is great with the Psalms, gematria, and the Hebrew. Dr. Barry Awe is great with all the types and shadows particularly in the Old Testament. I focus on our present day experience of the word in our daily life and in the current events.

Cornerbacks — Dana Coverstone and Prophecy club. These guys pick off the enemy giving us insight into his battle plans and what is coming our way.

Safety’s — Godaminute and Steve Fletcher. These guys roam freely and plug in the gaps wherever needed. Godaminute is someone to keep everyone cheerful while Steve Fletcher focuses exclusively on current events and is a great help to tying a prophecy from prophecy club or a dream from Coverstone, or supporting Pastor Sandy or Dr. Awe, etc.

Everyday I check the posts from these other 10. They in turn have a list of sites they check everyday so I am sure if anyone discovers anything we'll learn about it.
 
Does Lazarus rising from the dead prefigure the pre-tribulation rapture?

There are a lot of watchmen looking at this so we need to spend some time with this, particularly because it takes place around March 18th which is also Purim which is next week.

Let's consider the first 12 chapters of John. I am going to look at this assuming that Lazarus prefigures the pre-tribulation rapture.

Chapter 1 — Jesus is revealed as both God and Man, as light overcoming darkness, as the eternal Son and the Lamb of God.

Chapter 2 — Two events that introduce this — there is a wedding “before Jesus’ time” and there is the cleansing of the temple. I would say that Jesus’ time refers to “The Day of the Lord” which refers to the last 7 years of this age. The cleansing of the temple is like the rededication of the temple in Hanukkah and will be fulfilled during the tribulation. So then we see the pre-tribulation rapture followed by the first half of the tribulation.

Chapter 3 — Nicodemus — a baby is born — the man child.

Chapter 4 — Samaritan woman — We are sinners saved by Grace and living water will flow out of our innermost being.

Chapter 5 — Lame man at Bethesda pool rises and walks and takes up his bed. We go from being sinners saved by grace to walking with the Lord in ministry.

Chapter 6 — we discover that Jesus is the manna from heaven, the true bread that we can feed on every day.

Chapter 7 — Feast of tabernacles is where we are heading, at that time we will be able to drink pure living water from the springs of life.

Chapter 8 — Woman caught in adultery — this is the condition of the church at the end of the age during the apostasy. They don’t just listen to the Lord but they listen to the government, worry about their tax status, put pictures of Xi up in the sanctuary, etc.

Chapter 9 — The man born blind is healed and kicked out of the synagogue. At this time we see a persecution on the true believers, a “cancel culture” that accuses the Bible of being sexist, homophobic, and condemnatory. There is a polarization of the people of God with the official religion persecuting and shunning Jesus and His believers.

Chapter 10 — More on the man born blind — Jesus leads us out of organized Christianity and the apostasy. We discover all kinds of saints around the world on Youtube and the internet. The watchmen talking about the signs of the Lord’s imminent return are no longer welcome in organized religion.

Chapter 11 — Lazarus (Eleazar) is raised with the bride. Jesus is revealed as the resurrection and the life during the rapture before the tribulation.

Chapter 12 — Jesus meets with the church in Bethany to eat dinner. The humiliated religious leaders plot on how to kill the disciples during the tribulation.

The first thing I'd point out is that chapter 1 is an introduction to the whole book, which means we could look at this as 1 chapter and 20 chapters. The first ten chapters culminate in Lazarus being raised just like the rapture would be a culmination for the believers in the pre-tribulation rapture. You don't see a tribulation prior to this but you do see an apostasy and a cancel culture. Saints are ostracized and "led out of the sheepfold" by Jesus. So then we see a difference, before Lazarus is raised the saints who follow him are only a small fraction, most stay with the "sheepfold" of the organized religion. But after Lazarus is raised the leaders say the whole world is following Him.

Now if we go back to chapter 2 we see two things -- wedding in Cana where the water is turned to wine and we see the cleansing of the temple. The pre-tribulation rapture is where the water is turned to wine, think of 1% following the Lord, then after the rapture you have the other 98% and this stampede helps cleanse the temple.

The other thing I'd point out is that I was always taught you want to be in the pre-tribulation rapture, it is like being the valedictorian or salutatorian at graduation. OK, but graduation includes the other 98 students as well. If you look at the gospel of John it would appear that this is a two pronged strategy. It is like a military campaign where you begin with the navy seals and rangers, but then follow that up with the marines, navy and army.
 
So let's look at the apostasy to set the stage for Lazarus resurrection

8 1 but Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. 2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. 3 And the scribes and the Pharisees bring a woman taken in adultery; and having set her in the midst, 4 they say unto him, Teacher, this woman hath been taken in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now in the law Moses commanded us to stone such: what then sayest thou of her? 6 And this they said, trying him, that they might have whereof to accuse him.

What we see here is that the Pharisees, the organized religion, are looking for a way to get something that they can accuse Jesus of. The plan is to see how he responds to a woman who is caught in adultery. How did they know where they could go to catch a woman caught in the act of adultery? We can theorize and hypothesize but in the end what it comes down to is the Pharisees knew of someone who was in an adulterous relationship. They arranged this trap so that they could catch her in the act. In their attempt to get an open and shut case they used "entrapment" which in the US would cause you to be freed. We see this all the time with the FBI planning, plotting and supplying the weapons for some crime and then arresting the fools that had been manipulated. This isn't speculation here. Jesus stoops down and writes in the ground. In a legal trial a judge will not allow evidence that is irrelevant. If some Pharisee had committed a sin that had no bearing on this trial it would be deemed irrelevant. So these were not just their sins, but sins that were relevant to this trial which is why they will drop the charges.

So what do we learn here? The pharisees are fully invested and sold out in attempting to discredit Jesus. They are not acting as servants of God but rather usurpers of God's kingdom.

12 Again therefore Jesus spake unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life. 13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest witness of thyself; thy witness is not true.

There is a full blown legal battle going on between Jesus and the Pharisees at this point. But look at this:

28 Jesus therefore said, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself, but as the Father taught me, I speak these things. 29 And he that sent me is with me; he hath not left me alone; for I do always the things that are pleasing to him.

A debate is not going to do it. They must lift up the Lord on the cross before they will believe. Think about that, there are some seeds you simply put them in the ground, water them and they grow. Other seeds will not germinate unless there is a forest fire. Some people will simply hear the word and believe, others cannot believe until they see Jesus crucified. We see this in creation and we see this in the gospel of John. Let's stop tryin to think that this is a failure, or because they were lukewarm. The Samaritan woman was a sinner when she was saved, how is it any different for those who repent and rededicate themselves to the Lord after the rapture?

31 Jesus therefore said to those Jews that had believed him, If ye abide in my word, then are ye truly my disciples; 32 and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

This is the issue, you have to abide in the Lord's word. Some believers do not abide in the Lord's word. This is what the apostasy is all about. They buy into the idea that the word of God is out of date, or is sexist, or you only need to heed the verses you want to listen to, or it is simply good teachings, or their are too many different interpretations to really know what is being said. In other words they have many excuses to not abide in the word. But that is the the sword that divides soul from spirit. Two kinds of Christian believers, those that abide in the word of God and those that don't.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof. 45 But because I say the truth, ye believe me not.

I have learned this on social media and the internet. There are those who cannot understand what you speak. They will twist, distort, and even lie about what you say. They will do anything to discredit and kill your testimony. The problem is not that you are not speaking the truth, rather it is because you speak the truth that they don't believe you.

47 He that is of God heareth the words of God: for this cause ye hear them not, because ye are not of God.

So then, learn this lesson. We speak the word, he that is of God hears the word. Not everyone will hear them because not everyone is of God. That is fine, you are speaking for the children of God and they will hear you.

51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my word, he shall never see death.

And learn this lesson as well. The word of God is like a tank. You are on the battlefield, bullets are flying everywhere. If you step outside that tank you will die. Stay inside the tank and no matter how fierce the fight you will live.

52 The Jews said unto him, Now we know that thou hast a demon. Abraham died, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my word, he shall never taste of death. 53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, who died? and the prophets died: whom makest thou thyself? 54 Jesus answered, If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing: it is my Father that glorifieth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God;

And learn this lesson too. We do not need to be anybody. We don't need to be "greater" than anyone. We only need to be faithful to God. If we are one with the Lord there is no greater honor.

55 and ye have not known him: but I know him; and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be like unto you, a liar: but I know him, and keep his word.

This is all that matters, that you know Jesus and He knows you. This is all contradictory to the apostasy. They have left the word of God and do not abide in it, they think they know all mysteries and are wise and yet they can't understand the word of God and God thinks they are fools. They hold down the truth in unrighteousness, they are like a geiger counter that goes off when it is in the presence of someone speaking the truth. They are trying to cancel each and every believer, and they are able to "kill" those who are outside the word of God. They seek their own glory and not the glory that comes from God. Ultimately they are liars saying they know the Lord and represent Him.

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was born, I am.

But we know the great I am.
 
Hindsight is 20/20


I saw no sign of leadership in Washington DC
 
Hindsight is 20/20

Posted twice -- I think if we consider this now it seems much easier to understand.
 
Ezekiel 36:16-31 Prophecy for believers who profaned the Lord's name

16 And the word of Jehovah came unto me, saying, 17 Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a woman in her separation. 18 And I poured out my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and because they had defiled it with their idols. 19 And I scattered them among the nations, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them. 20 And when they came to the nations whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when it was said of them, These are the people of Jehovah, and they are gone forth out of his land. 21 But I had pity for my holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the nations whither they went. 22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for my holy name, which ye have profaned among the nations whither ye went.

We need to learn from what happened to the the Israelites and how God dealt with them. Bloodguiltiness and Idols, those are the two big sins that will separate us from God. Is the job an idol? Is the paycheck an idol? Right now we are dealing with this vaccine mandate. Many believers don’t want to take it, should you claim a medical exemption? Should you claim a religious exemption? I got an email from the union (a day after getting an email from the principal suggesting that you could apply for a medical exemption) and they said the minute you apply for a medical exemption you can go out on leave, use your hours, and lose your health insurance immediately. If you claim a religious exemption you go on unpaid leave and lose your health insurance. I had already rejected both those options, fortunately. Instead I decided I needed to take a stand and make a statement and do that by retiring. When I retire I can submit a letter saying why. So why is this vaccine such a big issue? It seems that it is paving the way for the Mark of the Beast and every day it seems more and more clear that is the case. It is true that they control much of the data on this vaccine making it difficult to absolutely confirm what we believe to be true. Still, if this is as terrible as the Bible says then it is involved in both idolatry and bloodguiltiness. I have seen enough of this to feel that is true. The rule I am following is to listen to the life and peace in your spirit, if you don’t have the life and peace to do something don’t do it. Right now I have the life and peace to retire, I don’t have it to get the vaccine.

23 And I will hallow my great name, which was profaned among the nations, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the nations shall know that I [am] Jehovah, saith the Lord Jehovah, when I shall be hallowed in you before their eyes.

This is a very encouraging word that I never heard before. It seems everyone talks about how terrible the Tribulation will be and yet miss this point. There are believers who have profaned the Lord’s name in the midst of the world. During the Great tribulation you will be able to glorify the Lord’s name in their midst so that He will be hallowed in you before their eyes. Simply confess your sins, repent, and obey the Lord. Be faithful to Him in the midst of the persecution.

24 And I will take you from among the nations, and gather you out of all the countries, and will bring you into your own land.

Again, let’s consider the history of Israel. Yes, they went through the holocaust, but after that they were brought into their own land.

25 And I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your uncleannesses and from all your idols will I cleanse you. 26 And I will give you a new heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and keep mine ordinances, and ye shall do them.

If you have sinned you can wash in the water of the word. This confuses people so let’s explain. Let’s say a person is a fornicator. They confess their sins, they repent and the Lord’s blood washes them white as snow. But the next day they have unclean thoughts, what do you do about those? You wash in the word. The word is clean water. Set your mind upon the word, the hymns, the songs, fellowship with saints, pray, etc.

28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers, and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

This is a big deal that many miss. If you are a billionaire it may be that money is your god. We don’t trust in money, we don’t trust in chariots, we don’t trust in armies or guns, we have one God and we trust in Him. Now He is promising that He will be our God. Don’t think that people are coming against you to take away your job, think of this as some puny upstart god is challenging you. Have faith that the God of the universe is your God and He will squash that puny upstart.

29 And I will save you from all your uncleannesses; and I will call for the corn and will multiply it, and lay no famine upon you.

We have already had prophesies that there will be a famine on the whole land for seven years. But now we have a promise that if you will set God as your God, if you will walk in His ways, wash in His blood, get a new heart, and wash your mind in the clean water of the word that there will be no famine! This is going to be a very exciting time for believers, God will be a present help in time of trouble!

30 And I will multiply the fruit of the trees and the increase of the field, so that ye may receive no more the reproach of famine among the nations.

Once again we have seen this happen with Israel. When Turkey ruled the land they taxed the inhabitants for every tree they had. As a result all the trees were cut down and Israel became a horrible waste land. Mark Twain visited the land when it was in this state and described it. But when they returned they appreciated how valuable those trees were. People replanted trees and they especially planted trees they wanted and needed like figs, olives, and other trees. Seventy years later the fruit of the trees has been multiplied and the yield from the fields has also been increased. They have come up with remarkable methods so that even the desert has bloomed again. They planted trees that soak up a lot of water in swampy areas, they planted crops that use little water in arid areas.

31 And ye shall remember your evil ways, and your doings which were not good, and shall loathe yourselves for your iniquities and for your abominations.

It is easy to remember your evil ways because you can see what the rest of the world is doing. I loathe them burning down the Brazilian rainforest so that McDonald’s can sell more hamburgers, I loathe the fact that California consumes more water than they get because of irresponsible agricultural practices. It is easy to see many, many things that we do all over the globe that is loathsome. Burn it all down, raise it to the ground, and then when you rebuild you can do it right the second time around. This what we will doin the millennial kingdom.
 
Ezekiel 37:1-14 Ezekiel prophesied of the rapture, deal with it!

1 The hand of Jehovah was upon me, and Jehovah carried me out in the Spirit, and set me down in the midst of a valley; and it was full of bones. 2 And he caused me to pass by them round about; and behold, there were very many in the open valley; and behold, they were very dry. 3 And he said unto me, Son of man, Shall these bones live? And I said, Lord Jehovah, thou knowest. 4 And he said unto me, Prophesy over these bones, and say unto them, Ye dry bones, hear the word of Jehovah. 5 Thus saith the Lord Jehovah unto these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live.

I have always looked at the Bible as a book that is living where every word is for me. When the Bible talks about Abraham having two sons I see that as historical fact, but I also see that they represent two covenants, one according to the flesh and one according to the Spirit. When they left Egypt and crossed the Red Sea that was historical fact but also my experience as well in baptism. Therefore I can see that this chapter is a prophecy and there is a historical fulfillment in 1948 for the nation of Israel, but I also believe this word applies to me as a Christian as well. Israel being reformed as a nation in one day is considered the greatest prophecy in the Bible, however, I’m going to say it is the second greatest. I believe this chapter also applies to the rapture. It was extremely difficult for anyone to believe Israel would be reformed prior to the event and in the same way it is extremely difficult for them to believe the rapture prior to the event.

6 And I will put sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live: and ye shall know that I [am] Jehovah. 7 And I prophesied as I was commanded; and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a rustling, and the bones came together, bone to its bone. 8 And I looked, and behold, sinews and flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them over; but there was no breath in them. 9 And he said unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live. 10 And I prophesied as he had commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

This is where we are at today. The sin and corruption is so great it will take a great army to deal with it. When Israel was reformed as a nation it took a few years but by the six day war they were a formidable army and since then they have only grown stronger and stronger. Likewise I believe the end of the age will see the Lord raise an army from the believers, those who are raptured in the first rapture will be the “air force” while those left behind will be the “ground game”. Those saints who refuse the mark and get their heads chopped off will be the “armor piercing shells” that completely rip apart Antichrist's army. I hear many saying there is no chance, the whole world is in Satan's control. You are not factoring in this great army that will be raised from the dead. Yes, physical death, but when that happens all those who are asleep spiritually will wake up as well.

11 And he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. Behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off! 12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, O my people, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13 And ye shall know that I [am] Jehovah, when I have opened your graves, and have caused you to come up out of your graves, O my people.

The Jews came out of the holocaust like those who were walking out of the grave. However, the rapture will also include the opening of the graves. When Israel was reformed into a nation it shocked the world, all the Christian theologians were teaching that these words were allegorical, they weren’t supposed to be taken literally. They were put to shame for their lack of faith. It is the same today as many Christian teachers deny the teaching of the rapture and all the signs that are pointing to our imminent departure.

14 And I will put my Spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I will place you in your own land: and ye shall know that I Jehovah have spoken, and have done [it], saith Jehovah.

This of course is the point. Prophecy is given so that we would know that the Lord He is God and there is no other. People were amazed when Israel was reformed and it strengthened their faith. Likewise people will be amazed when the rapture takes place and it will spark a revival, the greatest revival of the entire church age.
 
ZNP said:
Ezekiel 37:1-14 Ezekiel prophesied of the rapture, deal with it!

1 The hand of Jehovah was upon me, and Jehovah carried me out in the Spirit, and set me down in the midst of a valley; and it was full of bones. 2 And he caused me to pass by them round about; and behold, there were very many in the open valley; and behold, they were very dry. 3 And he said unto me, Son of man, Shall these bones live? And I said, Lord Jehovah, thou knowest. 4 And he said unto me, Prophesy over these bones, and say unto them, Ye dry bones, hear the word of Jehovah. 5 Thus saith the Lord Jehovah unto these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live.

I have always looked at the Bible as a book that is living where every word is for me. When the Bible talks about Abraham having two sons I see that as historical fact, but I also see that they represent two covenants, one according to the flesh and one according to the Spirit. When they left Egypt and crossed the Red Sea that was historical fact but also my experience as well in baptism. Therefore I can see that this chapter is a prophecy and there is a historical fulfillment in 1948 for the nation of Israel, but I also believe this word applies to me as a Christian as well. Israel being reformed as a nation in one day is considered the greatest prophecy in the Bible, however, I’m going to say it is the second greatest. I believe this chapter also applies to the rapture. It was extremely difficult for anyone to believe Israel would be reformed prior to the event and in the same way it is extremely difficult for them to believe the rapture prior to the event.

6 And I will put sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live: and ye shall know that I [am] Jehovah. 7 And I prophesied as I was commanded; and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a rustling, and the bones came together, bone to its bone. 8 And I looked, and behold, sinews and flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them over; but there was no breath in them. 9 And he said unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live. 10 And I prophesied as he had commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

This is where we are at today. The sin and corruption is so great it will take a great army to deal with it. When Israel was reformed as a nation it took a few years but by the six day war they were a formidable army and since then they have only grown stronger and stronger. Likewise I believe the end of the age will see the Lord raise an army from the believers, those who are raptured in the first rapture will be the “air force” while those left behind will be the “ground game”. Those saints who refuse the mark and get their heads chopped off will be the “armor piercing shells” that completely rip apart Antichrist's army. I hear many saying there is no chance, the whole world is in Satan's control. You are not factoring in this great army that will be raised from the dead. Yes, physical death, but when that happens all those who are asleep spiritually will wake up as well.

11 And he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. Behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off! 12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, O my people, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13 And ye shall know that I [am] Jehovah, when I have opened your graves, and have caused you to come up out of your graves, O my people.

The Jews came out of the holocaust like those who were walking out of the grave. However, the rapture will also include the opening of the graves. When Israel was reformed into a nation it shocked the world, all the Christian theologians were teaching that these words were allegorical, they weren’t supposed to be taken literally. They were put to shame for their lack of faith. It is the same today as many Christian teachers deny the teaching of the rapture and all the signs that are pointing to our imminent departure.

14 And I will put my Spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I will place you in your own land: and ye shall know that I Jehovah have spoken, and have done [it], saith Jehovah.

This of course is the point. Prophecy is given so that we would know that the Lord He is God and there is no other. People were amazed when Israel was reformed and it strengthened their faith. Likewise people will be amazed when the rapture takes place and it will spark a revival, the greatest revival of the entire church age.
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Those passages have to do with the restoration of the nation Israel. Nothing whatsoever to do with the rapture there
 
cv5 said:
Those passages have to do with the restoration of the nation Israel. Nothing whatsoever to do with the rapture there
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Yes, many think that, but prior to the restoration of Israel as a nation we were told by all the Bible experts that this was allegorical and shouldn't be taken literally.

Believers are part of the commonwealth of Israel

Ephesians 2:12 that ye were at that time separate from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of the promise, having no hope and without God in the world.

Those who have been crucified with Jesus are the "Israel of God".

Galatians 6:15 For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new [i]creature. 16 And as many as shall walk by this rule, peace be upon them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Those who have received the New Covenant are part of the house of Israel

Hebrews 8:
8 For finding fault with them, he saith,

Behold, the days come, saith the Lord,
That I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah;
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
In the day that I took them by the hand to lead them forth out of the land of Egypt;
For they continued not in my covenant,
And I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel
After those days, saith the Lord;
I will put my laws into their mind,
And on their heart also will I write them:
And I will be to them a God,
And they shall be to me a people:

The New Covenant was made with the House of Israel. Yes, the Old Covenant is still in effect and so even if you haven't received the New Covenant the Jews still have a covenant with God so thas prophecy in Ezekiel applies to them. But it also applies to those who have received the New Covenant.
 
Brace yourself on the word and my promises and do not rely on your own strength


The Baltic Dry index is an index of shipping and trade worldwide. For it to be dead the US dollar would no longer be the reserve currency. No one is going to unload a ship of goods if we no longer take the currency.

Long lines for food and no cars indicates oil has become very expensive to the point that we are in famine. We have taken two very big steps towards this with the war in Ukraine. They have shut off the trade in oil, fertilizer and wheat. Other countries that export food have shut down their exports realizing that they cannot afford to export wheat if they can't get rice, etc.

It is also clear that Russia has cut deals with Iran and China in an attempt to undermine and perhaps eliminate the US dollar as a reserve currency. This warning was less than 2 years ago so it is very possible that these dreams are all 2 year warnings.

He says it was during Christmas time -- so this Christmas would be 28 month warning and Christmas 2023 would be 40 month warning. Once again I would point out that giving someone a warning without giving them enough time to respond is pointless. Imagine me warning you that you needed to study for the Calculus final exam, you didn't even have any idea but OK, and then by the way the exam is this afternoon. That is pointless.

He says this dream was apocalyptic -- there is a hopeless malaise over the land and the Christians stand out like burning torches with joy and hope. The gospel message at this time was "You need Jesus now!" And they were persistent, clear that this was the truth.

He saw shopping malls converted to shelters. We are looking at a picture of a horrific great depression. If there is no world trade, massive hyper inflation, and no gas for cars then you would have no need for the malls and they could easily be used for shelters. He says it wasn't a homeless shelter but more like refugees. Also people in homes with coats on indicating no heat.

Dingy, dark grey "snow", sounds more like ash from nuclear blasts. Even in NYC the snow on the street will become dingy, but everywhere else it is bright white. This is something else. It could explain the people in shelters from converted malls who were "displaced" if dirty bombs were set off in population centers.

Nationwide outages plague the southwest -- electricity is down, hence we can't pump oil or ship it around the country. Americans don't know who to blame indicates a very confusing situation. Was this an attack from Russia? A false flag event?

America looking like a light bulb flickering about to go out -- state of the apostasy. I'm not saying that this should be interpreted as figurative, rather I'm saying that the apostasy is the light of the church flickering about to go out and that we will reap what we have sown. If this is the reality spiritually it will soon be the reality physically.

Then it concludes with a picture of people going all over the country with suitcase nukes.
 
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