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Chr said:
People don't kill themselfs to experience greater suffering they are deceived into thinking there suffering will end.
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You saying they go to hell? (wether they think so or not) That better not be true. They don't deserve that.
 
I was once suicidal Big mistake. Like i said hell is alot worse than any suffering here, some people think there pain will end only to find out the worst suffering ever that made there pain on earth seem like a holiday.
 
I want to give people hope here on earth real hope not mind over matter, God has changed my life He really is a miracle working God
 
Chr said:
I was once suicidal Big mistake. Like i said hell is alot worse than any suffering here, some people think there pain will end only to find out the worst suffering ever that made there pain on earth seem like a holiday.
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Chr said:
I want to give people hope here on earth real hope not mind over matter, God has changed my life He really is a miracle working God
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Well if your god is a truly loving god i can't believe he would let suiciders descend into something much worse than what they were trying to escape...

and god does not work for everyone. everyone is different. some people need something else...

but i'm glad you want to help people feel better. I wish you luck with that.
 
DarkVoid, so if someone told you they were suicidal, you'd say "Well, go ahead. That's fine."

I don't mean that in an accusatory tone, I suppose I'm just curious as to what you would do.
 
But your life is not your own. We were all created by God Himself. Our lives were planned and set into motion by our Father in heaven. This is true whether you believe in Him or not, but it carries a much greater weight for one who says they serve Him. When we serve Him not only is our life His simply by default, but we choose with our own human will to make it His also. You see, our life is not ours. Saying we can take our life is our own so we can take it is like saying, "My child has my DNA in it. I created him/her. So I can determine their life." We didn't create ourselves. We shouldn't claim that authority over our
lives.
I say this with the utmost compassion for those are suicidal because I've been there so many times. It's a hard place to be. It's beyond description really. Yes, it's sin. It's pride to take your life into your own hands and become your own God. It's choosing to believe a lie which is oh-so-hard to forsake. It's lying to yourself. It's lacking love for yourself and others. It's selfishness. And it's not worth it.
 
rachelsedge said:
DarkVoid, so if someone told you they were suicidal, you'd say "Well, go ahead. That's fine."

I don't mean that in an accusatory tone, I suppose I'm just curious as to what you would do.
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No i would not.

I would tell them they should probabaly hold on as long as they possibly can.

and i would do anything in my power to help them feel better.

but i would not make them feel like if they did it they would be wrong.

if they have to, they have to. just hope they don't have to...
 
Jordache said:
But your life is not your own. We were all created by God Himself. Our lives were planned and set into motion by our Father in heaven. This is true whether you believe in Him or not, but it carries a much greater weight for one who says they serve Him. When we serve Him not only is our life His simply by default, but we choose with our own human will to make it His also. You see, our life is not ours. Saying we can take our life is our own so we can take it is like saying, "My child has my DNA in it. I created him/her. So I can determine their life." We didn't create ourselves. We shouldn't claim that authority over our
lives.
I say this with the utmost compassion for those are suicidal because I've been there so many times. It's a hard place to be. It's beyond description really. Yes, it's sin. It's pride to take your life into your own hands and become your own God. It's choosing to believe a lie which is oh-so-hard to forsake. It's lying to yourself. It's lacking love for yourself and others. It's selfishness. And it's not worth it.
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It's also selfish to expect them to hold on for too long with no peace.

it can be looked at both ways.

but i don't know...like i said before, god does not help some peopel feel better...it's like they are not compatible.

so for those people, who can't feel better no matter what, what's the point?

you may have been there but "god" helped you...that's why you're still here, but it seems like some people can't be helped...and i don't know why...
 
Hmmm.... I've learned wonderful things.... Thank you all.... Yes contemplating suicide is not putting your trust in God to lead the way out of any misery.... So it must be a sin.... Thank you....
 
Well, it is true that God helped me, and continues to do so... But I had to make the choice to allow Him to do so. I had to reach out for help. I had to believe in truth. You see this isn't just about the poor person who wants to die. I can definately empathize with that. That person is trapped within themselves, but that doesn't mean they don't still have dominion over their thoughts and actions. They can make a choice to take one more day, to believe that there may be hope just around the corner. They can reach out even if its just calling a friend. They can look up, scream at God, and tell Him they don't believe Hes there. But if they do nothing, they are giving their lives over to death. No one and nothing is taking it from them. If they keep trying to hope. If they keep wrestling with God, He will make Himself known. Its their choice to choose Him or not. Peace is available to anyone who seeks it, but its not a peace of this world. Peace is available but it must be accepted.
Dark, I only speak this way because I have lived this way my whole life. I do not judge a person who is so lost that they can see nothing else but death. I have been there so many times, and I know that it feels like there is no hope or peace. But there is and to live in it is just a matter of believing just a little bit... Just enough to reach your hand out from under the covers to brush your hand across it. Then you reach a little farther, getting a tighter grip... Sooner or later the hope and peace become recognizable even to you.
Dark, the truth is there is no hope without God. None whatsoever. Death is your only hope... well you think it's hope. But really it's just speeding up the progression of your torment. But the great thing is you can be without God, but he is never without you. In desperate times people who do not believe in God cry out to him accidentally all the time. In a fit of rage or sorrow, they find themselves trapped in a slip of the tongue. They start praying... Even unconsciously. Even if it was your mistake God hears you. You spirit knows there is a God. God will reach into the life of any person, but the person must respond. God doesn't force himself on us.
 
Jordache said:
Well, it is true that God helped me, and continues to do so... But I had to make the choice to allow Him to do so. I had to reach out for help. I had to believe in truth. You see this isn't just about the poor person who wants to die. I can definately empathize with that. That person is trapped within themselves, but that doesn't mean they don't still have dominion over their thoughts and actions. They can make a choice to take one more day, to believe that there may be hope just around the corner. They can reach out even if its just calling a friend. They can look up, scream at God, and tell Him they don't believe Hes there. But if they do nothing, they are giving their lives over to death. No one and nothing is taking it from them. If they keep trying to hope. If they keep wrestling with God, He will make Himself known. Its their choice to choose Him or not. Peace is available to anyone who seeks it, but its not a peace of this world. Peace is available but it must be accepted.
Dark, I only speak this way because I have lived this way my whole life. I do not judge a person who is so lost that they can see nothing else but death. I have been there so many times, and I know that it feels like there is no hope or peace. But there is and to live in it is just a matter of believing just a little bit... Just enough to reach your hand out from under the covers to brush your hand across it. Then you reach a little farther, getting a tighter grip... Sooner or later the hope and peace become recognizable even to you.
Dark, the truth is there is no hope without God. None whatsoever. Death is your only hope... well you think it's hope. But really it's just speeding up the progression of your torment. But the great thing is you can be without God, but he is never without you. In desperate times people who do not believe in God cry out to him accidentally all the time. In a fit of rage or sorrow, they find themselves trapped in a slip of the tongue. They start praying... Even unconsciously. Even if it was your mistake God hears you. You spirit knows there is a God. God will reach into the life of any person, but the person must respond. God doesn't force himself on us.
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Well it still doesn't make sense why it would be like that...

I still don't agree with the way your god supposedly has everything set up.

And you say it's suppose to work if we choose it. But that's not proof that its real as you can choose to believe in anything (even santa claus and unicorns)

The idea of any loving god just does not make sense to me. I wish I could believe in a loving god. But I can't believe in something that does not make sense to me...
 
Hey darkvoid you can check out Paul Washer on youtube type paul washer the gospel the most.That video should help answer your questions, Im glad your an honest guy with good questions that need answers.
 
Chr said:
Hey darkvoid you can check out Paul Washer on youtube type paul washer the gospel the most.That video should help answer your questions, Im glad your an honest guy with good questions that need answers.
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Hm, ok yea, I will take a look.
 
Also John piper the gospel in six minutes. I am a christian and i still need the gospel. God bless you darkvoid
 
I understand DarkVoid. I really do. I'm a pretty analytical, touch and taste kind of person. I've had to fight for my faith. But God has always been faithful to prove Himself to me.
 
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