It was still an act of Jonah's will to go to the Ninevites after he was disciplined by God. He could have fled to Tarshish a second time. God did not go to Nineveh for him. He went himself.
Steven Anderson is wrong - Sodomites can still be saved.
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Have no sin, do no sin.Notice it does not say in 1 John 1:8, "If we say that we do no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us."
Because if it did, it would be in contradiction to its context in 1 John 3:5-0.
And you are right that He came to save...
He came to save us from our sins (Matthew 1:21) and to redeem us from all iniquity (Titus 2:13-14).
No difference my friend.
If you claim you are sinless you are decieved
Yes, I do not deny that we can gain added insight from looking at the Greek and Hebrew.Lol,
You do not have to be a brain surgeon. You can look at the greek word. Look at the defenition. Look at the language used. And realise. That what is written in english does not actually fit perfectly with what was said.
Case in point is when Jesus asked peter if he loved him. No english text properly interprets that passage. Although it is not so bad people will misinterpret it. It is just that the depth of what happened there is not able to be sEven, Because the english word love is to open. Where as the greek has multiple words for love.
That is just one example.
However, the English is sufficient to give us everything that we need for life and godliness.
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eternally-gratefull
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Good God man, I told you I use the KJV.He did...even in the kjv.
However, because you are one who does not endure sound doctrine, you heap for yourselves teachers in the translators of other versions.
Unfortunately for you, you cannot even trust any Bible. You have to learn Greek and Hebrew to the point of being able to read and speak these languages; or else you will never be able to get God's unadulterated message (from your perspective).
I love when you people come in here thinking how smart and perfect you are yet you can not even listen to what people tell you.
Thats the problem with you cultists. You think you are so smart you know exactly what other people think. So you make a fool of yourself like you just did.
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eternally-gratefull
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the last half of Mark 16 is illogical.Consider Luke 9:55-56 in the NIV vs. the kjv.
This is only one example.
Another example is Romans 13:9 in both of these versions.
There are many more.
Some versions entirely remove the first half of John 8 and the last half of Mark 16.
People have been born of God and died because they were given poison or bit by snakes.
If your not following a cult. You would easily recognize this.. Not to mention. In all the other accounts of this conversation, the last half of mark 16 was not stated. Why did the other authors leave it out?
I never said I was perfect now did I. But I can test the spirits of what people tell me..
You can;t do that if you hold yourself only to an eng;ish text.
The english language is flawed. If the language is flawed then you expect an interpretation to that language to be flawed.
Literally the word would be twice and large if they accurately and correctly completely interpreted the word..
{baptism is not even an english word it is a transliteration of the greek. And because they di dnot translate it. We have so many false teachers misapplying baptism and many applying water baptism to a false gospel of works.
So, you are saying that God, who is the Word, created English as a flawed language and then decided to place His word primarily in a flawed language (English) in the last days of the gospel being preached?
So that only those who are educated in the Hebrew and Greek can receive His unadulterated message?
Personally, I think that those who are educated are more inclined to reject Jesus; while the common people might hear Him gladly.
So, I would never entrust my interpretation of the Bible to an amateur Greek or Hebrew scholar (not even myself).
I believe that the Holy Spirit is more able to illuminate the scriptures to us when we read them in our own language.
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eternally-gratefull
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Says who? The Bible says on;y SOME are given the gift of Tongues.Speaking in tongues is an evidence of being filled with the Spirit.
And people speak in tongues all the time who do nto even Know God.
Are you questioning my salvation?
I think that there might be a rule against doing that.
In answer to your first question, my answer is 1 Corinthians 4:3-4.
On;y God can question yur salvation.
I am questioning your words.
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eternally-gratefull
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LolIt was still an act of Jonah's will to go to the Ninevites after he was disciplined by God. He could have fled to Tarshish a second time. God did not go to Nineveh for him. He went himself.
God gave him no choice my friend. Jonah went against his will. Then he got mad when ninevah repented.
I know. You do not want to give credit to God. Its ok..
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eternally-gratefull
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Yeah it can.Yes, I do not deny that we can gain added insight from looking at the Greek and Hebrew.
However, the English is sufficient to give us everything that we need for life and godliness.
But it will not give you a complete picture. And can also lead to misapplication of the word. Because it is not properly translated.
Why do you think we have so many beliefs of the same passage?
the last half of Mark 16 is illogical.
People have been born of God and died because they were given poison or bit by snakes.
If your not following a cult. You would easily recognize this.. Not to mention. In all the other accounts of this conversation, the last half of mark 16 was not stated. Why did the other authors leave it out?
See James 3:7 (kjv). It explains the verse you are having trouble with.
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eternally-gratefull
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Um you realise English is not one of the origional languages, It is actually a mix of different languages correct?So, you are saying that God, who is the Word, created English as a flawed language and then decided to place His word primarily in a flawed language (English) in the last days of the gospel being preached?
So that only those who are educated in the Hebrew and Greek can receive His unadulterated message?
Personally, I think that those who are educated are more inclined to reject Jesus; while the common people might hear Him gladly.
So, I would never entrust my interpretation of the Bible to an amateur Greek or Hebrew scholar.
I believe that the Holy Spirit is more able to illuminate the scriptures to us when we read them in our own language.
It was not even really created until the 5th century.
Jonah still had a choice in the matter; though he may have suffered more greatly if he had made a different one.Lol
God gave him no choice my friend. Jonah went against his will. Then he got mad when ninevah repented.
I know. You do not want to give credit to God. Its ok..
Are you a mormon?But it will not give you a complete picture. And can also lead to misapplication of the word. Because it is not properly translated.
Because that is a mormon point of view.
They contend that "the scriptures are correct only insofar as they are correctly translated".
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eternally-gratefull
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James 3: 7 authorized KJVSee James 3:7 (kjv). It explains the verse you are having trouble with.
7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
yep this explains about poison and snakes and death.. smh
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eternally-gratefull
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If he did not he would have suffered death.Jonah still had a choice in the matter; though he may have suffered more greatly if he had made a different one.
he had a choice of live or die.
English is the language that is spoken of in Zephaniah 3:9, impaho.Um you realise English is not one of the origional languages, It is actually a mix of different languages correct?
It was not even really created until the 5th century.
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eternally-gratefull
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Lil.Are you a mormon?
Because that is a mormon point of view.
They contend that "the scriptures are correct only insofar as they are correctly translated".
dude, How can I take you seriously When you make comments like this?
Mormons actually wrote a book using KJV old English language and claim that they got it from an ancient Egyptian language. Not from the greek or hebrew.
They shall take up serpents and will not be hurt...because they tamed the serpents so that they did not bite them.James 3: 7 authorized KJV
7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
yep this explains about poison and snakes and death.. smh
The verse in Mark 16 does not mandate the practices that you are thinking of.
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eternally-gratefull
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Kind of hard to be true when english was not even formed yet.English is the language that is spoken of in Zephaniah 3:9, impaho.
Look up the history fo the language.
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eternally-gratefull
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What practices?They shall take up serpents and will not be hurt...because they tamed the serpents so that they did not bite them.
The verse in Mark 16 does not mandate the practices that you are thinking of.
I am talking about believers who accidentally got bitten by a snake and ended up dying from the poison of the snakes.
I suggest you stop trying to figure out what you think I am saying and just listen to me..