FYI the term Modern tongues is not in the Bible or in Context to what is Known as the Gifts of the Holy Spirit.
This has already been addressed in a few previous posts, q.v.
FYI the term Modern tongues is not in the Bible or in Context to what is Known as the Gifts of the Holy Spirit.
yes, it has as many continue to assert the term modern tongues which is not Biblical. Just pointing out the unbiblical error repeated.This has already been addressed in a few previous posts, q.v.
In our Pentecostal church - The Revival Fellowship
ALL members who believe are baptised in water and are baptised in the Holy Spirit; with the Bible evidence of ALL speaking
in new tongues (our daily prayer language).
At our worship meetings we conduct the three voice gifts of the Holy Spirit (as we are commanded to in 1Corinthians 14)
first a person will speak out in an unknown tongue and this is followed by the gift of interpretation;
this is done to a maximum of three times (decently and in order).
to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various
kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. [1Corinthians 12:10] ESV
Here one can see how this voice gift is truly very different from the sign given to all Pentecostal disciples upon baptism in the
Holy Spirit.
For when a person who can pray in tongues operates the voice gift of tongues in a worship meeting the sound and style of this
voice gift is distinctly different from their usual daily prayer language.
But the cherry on the cake are the gifts of prophecy wherein God [both the Father and Jesus] speaks to his church and tells us
wonderful things about the church of God, about world events; glimpses of the future …
....which points back to paul speaking in unknown tongues where is mind was unfruitful,and as he said ,to God not man.@CS1 -
The term "modern tongues" is used to differentiate it from "tongues" as referenced in the Bible, which are all references to real, rational language(s). Modern tongues are non-cognitive non-language utterance.
The problem for all of you is that how a Spirit-filled church is to function and prosper is written in detail specifically in
I Corinthians 12 and 14 (and referred to and upheld throughout Acts and the epistles).
We enjoy the nine gifts of the Holy Spirit and they are readily applied throughout the body as required;
plus we also operate our worship meetings in full accord with the scriptures.
Thus what was in the beginning has been revived again for these last of last days - the latter rain of the outpouring of the
Holy Spirit.
....which points back to paul speaking in unknown tongues where is mind was unfruitful,and as he said ,to God not man.
Same as modern tongues.
Same God,same power,same Spirit,same gifts.
All for us the church.
All the church able to reject it.
It is up to us.
I find it fascinating that God takes control of the one thing man cannot control as evidence of His abiding presence; the tongue.
"For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
But the tongue can no man tame;" (James 3:7-8) However, with God all things are possible. (Matt 19:26)
In addition, on the Day of Pentecost a flame resembling a cloven (split) tongue appeared above each person when the Spirit entered their body. This record in Acts points to a couple things considering each believer is to be God's dwelling place upon rebirth:
1. The Israelites knew when God was present in the darkness of night by the pillar of flame that appeared above the Old Testament tabernacle. (Exodus 25:8, 22, 29:43,40:34-38)
2. The cloven (split or divided in two) tongue appears to represent that there are two types of tongues: One as the initial evidence of the infilling of the Holy Spirit, and two; the Spiritual gift of tongues.
The 7 letters to the 7 churches sums it up.The problem is the idea of a "Spirit filled church". Some like the ring of it . All churches are filled with the Spirit. Right from the beginning he gives us His Spirit without measure . Those who seek after a signs and wonders gospel make it into a filling station …."fill her up" with self edification on the weekends.
2 Corinthians 10:12-14 King James Version (KJV) For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.
But we will not boast of things without our measure, but according to the measure of the rule which God hath distributed to us, a measure to reach even unto you. For we stretch not ourselves beyond our measure, as though we reached not unto you: for we are come as far as to you also in preaching the gospel of Christ:
Not sure what you meanAccording to the law in respect to the doctrine of tongues.(1 Corinthians 14:21-22) What does the sign that follows represent as to what it does confirm? Once that is established as a foundation then you can build on it.
What does Isaiah 28 have to offer as the foundation. What is it confirming?
The 7 letters to the 7 churches sums it up.
Some were dead and in danger of anathema...or were already there.
The ones today that even preach against the Holy Spirit are already dead.
But to them,sadly,they are dead right
Not sure what you mean
The problem is the idea of a "Spirit filled church" … All churches are filled with the Spirit.Simply not true. A falsehood.
Catholic, protestant and orthodox churches are not Spirit-filled nor Spirit lead.
I write from personal experience having grown up in the Roman Catholic church with some involvements with Lutherans.
I can assure you Garee (and others) that their is NO equivalency to a ridgy didge true blue pentecostal church in which ALL are
baptized in the Holy Spirit and ALL have testimonies to being converted, cleansed, tongues, miracles, healings, blessings, and
the daily manifestation of the power of God and the gospel in our lives.
You know nothing.I am not saying this church has the Holy Spirit and another does not . But the whole fueling station where a person runs low idea and needs refilling .Maybe a tongue maybe slain in the spirit or another devise for topping it off.
It's fine that you don't believe in speaking in tongues. You don't need to make a ridiculous caricature of it.I am not saying this church has the Holy Spirit and another does not . But the whole fueling station where a person runs low idea and needs refilling .Maybe a tongue maybe slain in the spirit or another devise for topping it off.