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So, this guy I know only dates younger women.........YOUNGER women.....

I asked him why, and he replied:

Bro, you see me holding an older woman, I'm holding her for the Police......

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p_rehbein said:
JTB said:
Jesus would have gone to the cross for only one.

Gandy said:

This is unBiblical :(

IMO, what Gandy might mean, and I believe IF JTB is saying that Jesus would "only die" for one person, then that does not reflect Scripture......

God gave His Son so that "ALL WHO BELIEVE" would be saved. God wants ALL to be saved!

The precious blood of Jesus covers the sins of ALL WHO BELIEVE....

so in that sense, saying He would have died for "just one" is to say that God ONLY WANTED to save ONE person...........
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I think what JTB meant was that if there was only you or I in this world under the curse Jesus would have went to the cross to save you or my souls. Hypothetically, our sins wouldn't have necessitated such an absolute scourging. So am I missing something?
 
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Blain said:
The conditioning have you ever read that book? it is a really old book so I would not be surprised if you haven't but the book is about a young man who lives in an era where more and more rules are placed on the citizens some of them outright bizzare and make no sense it starts off with little things but slowly becomes more and more tyranical until his very faith is then attacked and made illegal but because his family complied with every rule that was set before them they were conditioned to comply and take the mark of the beast against his desperate pleas.
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God tells us the mark of the beast will happen. I'm looking for the verse in the Bible that tells us we can stop it.
 
p_rehbein said:
JTB said:
Jesus would have gone to the cross for only one.

Gandy said:

This is unBiblical :(

IMO, what Gandy might mean, and I believe IF JTB is saying that Jesus would "only die" for one person, then that does not reflect Scripture......

God gave His Son so that "ALL WHO BELIEVE" would be saved. God wants ALL to be saved!

The precious blood of Jesus covers the sins of ALL WHO BELIEVE....

so in that sense, saying He would have died for "just one" is to say that God ONLY WANTED to save ONE person...........
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Jesus died for everyone who believes - I was just positing what if there was only one person in the history of the world who believed? Would Jesus have submitted to the cross for just that one person? Or would He, like so many now, say well that's not enough people saved to inconvenience myself for?
 
TabinRivCA said:
I think what JTB meant was that if there was only you or I in this world under the curse Jesus would have went to the cross to save you or my souls. Hypothetically, our sins wouldn't have necessitated such an absolute scourging. So am I missing something?
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I think because Gods Salvation Plan is based on all mankind, not just one person. Even in the beginning, God saw the need for more than one person. Ergo, He created Eve for Adam. Because of that, it isn't horrible what JTB said, it is just that Scripture tells Gods true intent. That being, to offer salvation to ALL MANKIND, not just one person.

Now, had God ONLY created Adam, and never created ANYONE ELSE, then there would have been no need for Jesus to go to the cross, for Adam would never have fallen into temptation IMO.......

I understand what JTB said in some ways because Jesus left the ninty and nine to search for the one. But, even then, the ninty and nine were safe in His care......... So it's just not a great way to present Gods Salvation Plan IMO...........but, it isn't horrible either. Just not based on Scripture.
 
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JTB said:
Jesus died for everyone who believes - I was just positing what if there was only one person in the history of the world who believed? Would Jesus have submitted to the cross for just that one person? Or would He, like so many now, say well that's not enough people saved to inconvenience myself for?
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Actually, Jesus died for ALL! Salvation comes through belief in Jesus, but His sacrifice was for ALL the world. Scripture says that while we were yet in our sin, He died for us.....

anyhoo............ I understand what you are saying. It just misses the mark a wee bit IMO.
 
JTB said:
Jesus died for everyone who believes - I was just positing what if there was only one person in the history of the world who believed? Would Jesus have submitted to the cross for just that one person? Or would He, like so many now, say well that's not enough people saved to inconvenience myself for?
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I am sorry for posting what I did but when I red it, my hair just stood up. Like p_r said I understand what you were trying to say but I know Jesus died for all of us. If only one choose to follow him it is our folly but He died for all to make that decision.
 
GandalfTheWhite said:
I see the vaccine discussion even made it here :ROFL:
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Yikes, I think that's where we're gonna wind up if we don't stop quibbling, lol and jk. On the hypothetical issue, I see both sides of the presumption and agree with EVERYONE🤩👌 Haha, I'm out of it now and can rest with a clear conscious, lol. Wait, did someone mention 'vaccines'.......adios😂!
 
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ok, this thread has been very busy. Has anyone mentioned the "C" or "D" words yet?

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