SO MANY FALSE PASTORS TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!

[Musicmaster]

These cookie cutter videos are sometimes quite pathetic. How one feels is nothing but an appeal to that which is inferior. We ALL sin daily, so continuing to sin after salvation by grace through faith, with the sealing of Holy Spirit, that's not about emotions or conscience, it's just the way it is. My brother Paul of Tarsus also continued to struggle with sin in the flesh, and, like him, when we sin, it is no longer we who sins but sin within us.

So, if I were you, I'd dispense with those silly videos based on middle-of-the-road Evangelical bandwagoneering. Read scripture fornwhat it says and share only that.

MM

 

[Ceph]

These cookie cutter videos are sometimes quite pathetic. How one feels is nothing but an appeal to that which is inferior. We ALL sin daily, so continuing to sin after salvation by grace through faith, with the sealing of Holy Spirit, that's not about emotions or conscience, it's just the way it is. My brother Paul of Tarsus also continued to struggle with sin in the flesh, and, like him, when we sin, it is no longer we who sins but sin within us.

So, if I were you, I'd dispense with those silly videos based on middle-of-the-road Evangelical bandwagoneering. Read scripture fornwhat it says and share only that.

MM

I'd rather be at total peace with God than live with a tormented concious.
If I sin, it aught to be that I didn't intend to.

 

[Musicmaster]

I'd rather be at total peace with God than live with a tormented concious.
If I sin, it aught to be that I didn't intend to.

Yes, and the gang out there who promotes the belief one can lose his salvation, they are the most miserable of any because of their having no idea where that line is located for an alleged loss of their salvation. They cannot ever really know if they have crossed that line due to daily sins. Some will claim, "Well, I've never murdered anyone or robbed a bank or slep with my neighbors wife..."

On and on they will brag about what they have never done to lose their salvation, as if they can prove those items are the threshold for loss, and yet they have not one verse of scripture to show those items as that imaginary line. They end up basking in a contrived comfort rooted in their self pride. Either way, it's a miserable existence with the latter being a false, fleshly comfort.

MM

 

[Musicmaster]

I'd rather be at total peace with God than live with a tormented concious.
If I sin, it aught to be that I didn't intend to.

That's essentially what Paul said. He clearly stated that when he does that which he would not normally have done, it is no longer he who sinned but rather sin within him. That shifts the blame squarely where it belongs in the life of a redeemed soul by grace through faith.

Our sins are no longer of effect upon our salvation, but rather reward. That shatters the pathetic claim that we follow after easy believism. It's not easy to give no occasion for sin that can and does affect our rewards in Heaven. Sin still comes at a price, both for those who are unsaved and also those who are saved.

MM

 

[HaynesLindaDarlene]

Christians: Pastors Who Don’t Know God.


Many (not all) of these men and women who inhabit the pulpit have exalted themselves above correction, or so they think. Members dare not correct them. Outsiders are pushed away. And day after day, men and women not of God continue to deceive the hearts of the simple. The simple with itching ears who heap to themselves teachers full of comfortable lies, nonsense and false promises. But this time I am not going to start off by calling out Creflo “man of God but confused and deceived by Kenneth Copeland” Dollar, former false teacher Fred Price Sr., T.D. Fakes, Paula “sleep with married Benny Hinn” White, Dale “put your name on everything to promote yourself Bronner, Peter “sucker you with free spring water packets” Popoff, Juanita “profit-ess with serious mental issues” Bynum nor Joel “Don’t Worry Be Happy” watered down Gospel Osteen. Come on people, stop falling for the show. Well I guess I did call them out.

Full article:

Christians: Pastors Who Don’t Know God. (msn.com)

Hello! How are you doing today? I hope you had a peaceful night. It's nice to meet you, and I would love for us to get to know each other better. If you don't mind sharing, I would love to hear more about yourself.

 

[Ceph]

Hello! How are you doing today? I hope you had a peaceful night. It's nice to meet you, and I would love for us to get to know each other better. If you don't mind sharing, I would love to hear more about yourself.

Yes mam I got my credit card info ready and plenty of bitcoins to send to your wallet. I can't wait to pay for your dinner from across the world with a gift card.

 

[Musicmaster]

Hello! How are you doing today? I hope you had a peaceful night. It's nice to meet you, and I would love for us to get to know each other better. If you don't mind sharing, I would love to hear more about yourself.

I had no idea this was a dating site too. Talk about versatility...

Being happily married keeps me from needing to make use of that feature of this site...

MM

 

[Musicmaster]

This pretty much shows that the Kingdom Gospel preached to Israel was different from the Gospel of grace preached to Gentiles by Paul:

Mark 16:17-18 — And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

So, those charlatans behind pulpits who spout this kind of mumbo-jumbo, as if it were still active today, it's interesting that these things allegedly take place today but always in isolation from the eyes of public viewing. All we hear about are stories, never an actual video recording of the event of terminal believers being verifiable healed of a verified terminal disease, or a limb growing back in the place of the severed limb, etc.

The proverbial dog returning to its own vomit to lap it up is the fodder of modern-day hyper charismaticism.

MM

 

[Ceph]

This pretty much shows that the Kingdom Gospel preached to Israel was different from the Gospel of grace preached to Gentiles by Paul:

Mark 16:17-18 — And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

So, those charlatans behind pulpits who spout this kind of mumbo-jumbo, as if it were still active today, it's interesting that these things allegedly take place today but always in isolation from the eyes of public viewing. All we hear about are stories, never an actual video recording of the event of terminal believers being verifiable healed of a verified terminal disease, or a limb growing back in the place of the severed limb, etc.

The proverbial dog returning to its own vomit to lap it up is the fodder of modern-day hyper charismaticism.

MM

Jesus himself couldn't do many mighty works in his hometown, because of their unbeleif and lack of faith.

 

[Musicmaster]

Jesus himself couldn't do many mighty works in his hometown, because of their unbeleif and lack of faith.

True. Blessedly, nobody loses the salvation they already have.

MM

 

[Avery]

Please…let’s not resurrect this subject; even with a ’get to know you’

Your‘re killin me, Smalls.

 

[Dino246]

This pretty much shows that the Kingdom Gospel preached to Israel was different from the Gospel of grace preached to Gentiles by Paul:

Mark 16:17-18 — And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

So, those charlatans behind pulpits who spout this kind of mumbo-jumbo, as if it were still active today, it's interesting that these things allegedly take place today but always in isolation from the eyes of public viewing. All we hear about are stories, never an actual video recording of the event of terminal believers being verifiable healed of a verified terminal disease, or a limb growing back in the place of the severed limb, etc.

The proverbial dog returning to its own vomit to lap it up is the fodder of modern-day hyper charismaticism.

MM

I encourage you to read Lee Strobel’s The Case For Miracles .

 

[Musicmaster]

I encourage you to read Lee Strobel’s The Case For Miracles .

What's His thesis? I know miracles were a routine among the disciples back then and that the Lord does miracles in the lives of a His own choosing, but men walking this earth today empowered as they at that time, no. The general populace of believers today drinking deadly things, they will die.

MM

 

[Musicmaster]

Galatians 1:11-12 — But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

What do false pastors teach along this line, either by outright falsehood, implication or silence?

Did Paul persecute the Messianic Jews because he, as a Jew, hated Jews?

No. That can't be it.

Was it because he was just a great big meanie, or was it because he knew what Peter and the other eleven were teaching about Jesus as the Messiah the Jews had killed? To Paul's ears, Christ Jesus taught as beingnthe Son of God was blasphemy. He HAD to have heard that from other men at that time because he did not encounter Jesus until some years after approving the stoning of Stephen.

Ah, but thebnon-critical thinking masses continue to believe their pastors of falsehood, ministering "another" gospel of works and self effort, which is to say that the Blood of Christ shed on that cross wasn't sufficient.

Galatians 5:2-4 — Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Although circumcision is the contextual example, we know from Paul's other writings that if it is of works, then it is no more of grace (Rom. 11:6). It cannot be both.

So, Paul's gospel was NOT the gospel by which he persecuted the Messianic Jews who, under that gospel preached by the twelve, was still rooted in the Law and works as the means by which their faith was alive, although then upon the completed work of the cross and the resurrection. Paull's gospel was not known to any created being until revealed to Paul:

1 Corinthians 2:7 — But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

1 Corinthians 2:8 — Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Many false teaching pastors claim it was the resurrection that was hidden, but that can't be given that Jesus stated to His disciples and the Jews in general His coming death and resurrection.

The Gentiles were dogs and so in Satan's back pocket, so to speak. So please check everything your pastor claims by reading scripture yourself through systematic study.

MM

 

[Ouch]

Christians: Pastors Who Don’t Know God.


Many (not all) of these men and women who inhabit the pulpit have exalted themselves above correction, or so they think. Members dare not correct them. Outsiders are pushed away. And day after day, men and women not of God continue to deceive the hearts of the simple. The simple with itching ears who heap to themselves teachers full of comfortable lies, nonsense and false promises. But this time I am not going to start off by calling out Creflo “man of God but confused and deceived by Kenneth Copeland” Dollar, former false teacher Fred Price Sr., T.D. Fakes, Paula “sleep with married Benny Hinn” White, Dale “put your name on everything to promote yourself Bronner, Peter “sucker you with free spring water packets” Popoff, Juanita “profit-ess with serious mental issues” Bynum nor Joel “Don’t Worry Be Happy” watered down Gospel Osteen. Come on people, stop falling for the show. Well I guess I did call them out.

Full article:

Christians: Pastors Who Don’t Know God. (msn.com)

This topic is very sad to me, as I once followed a baptist preacher!

HE'S A PASTOR RIGHT!!!

Is it just laziness following a man who calls himself a preacher or pastor?

Since our walk is between JESUS and us alone it is our job to look in HIS word and if a pastor says something check him out with what JESUS says.

Today we have man-made pastors, who other men teach them about GOD'S word and what it says and means.

And we have JESUS disciples preachers who are lead by the Holy Ghost just like the ones after JESUS ascended in Acts 1.

Today's false preachers,
Say this prayer and your saved.
We are saved by grace or faith alone.
Baptism is for show.
Paul preached a different message.
Once saved always saved.

All leading people down the wide road, Satan likes us following his team.

GOD'S word has two parts ONLY, OT and NT.

The first message JESUS promised to be preached still stands today.

Acts 2:38-39
King James Version
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Some chose to follow Peter the ones JESUS gave the keys to the kingdom, some will not.

There are examples in HIS word where others other than Jews were grafted in with the foundation of Acts 2:38-39

Acts 8, Samaritans, they believed were baptized in JESUS name and days or weeks later received the Holy Ghost.

Acts 10, Gentiles, they believed and JESUS filled them with the Holy Ghost and was baptized moments later.

Acts 19, Ephesians, they were following of John who never heard of the Holy Ghost, Paul went to work they believed were baptized in JESUS name, Paul laid hands on them and they received the Holy Ghost.

Example of receiving the Holy Ghost,
Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

ANYTHING ELSE IS SINKING SAND.

So we all have choices to make, follow men who think they are right or JESUS and HIS WORD.

Satan's plan keep them out of the water, if they get in the water keep JESUS name out of it.

 

[Ouch]

Galatians 1:11-12 — But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

What do false pastors teach along this line, either by outright falsehood, implication or silence?

Did Paul persecute the Messianic Jews because he, as a Jew, hated Jews?

No. That can't be it.

Was it because he was just a great big meanie, or was it because he knew what Peter and the other eleven were teaching about Jesus as the Messiah the Jews had killed? To Paul's ears, Christ Jesus taught as beingnthe Son of God was blasphemy. He HAD to have heard that from other men at that time because he did not encounter Jesus until some years after approving the stoning of Stephen.

Ah, but thebnon-critical thinking masses continue to believe their pastors of falsehood, ministering "another" gospel of works and self effort, which is to say that the Blood of Christ shed on that cross wasn't sufficient.

Galatians 5:2-4 — Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Although circumcision is the contextual example, we know from Paul's other writings that if it is of works, then it is no more of grace (Rom. 11:6). It cannot be both.

So, Paul's gospel was NOT the gospel by which he persecuted the Messianic Jews who, under that gospel preached by the twelve, was still rooted in the Law and works as the means by which their faith was alive, although then upon the completed work of the cross and the resurrection. Paull's gospel was not known to any created being until revealed to Paul:

1 Corinthians 2:7 — But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

1 Corinthians 2:8 — Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Many false teaching pastors claim it was the resurrection that was hidden, but that can't be given that Jesus stated to His disciples and the Jews in general His coming death and resurrection.

The Gentiles were dogs and so in Satan's back pocket, so to speak. So please check everything your pastor claims by reading scripture yourself through systematic study.

MM

Your implying that JESUS spent app 3 years teaching HIS disciple and leading by example, giving them specific instruction's before HE ascended.

And teaching Paul a totally different message BUT Paul also had the foundation of the rest of his team?

Galatians is correct, BUT YOU IMPLYING it was a total different message IS WRONG.

1. Why was Paul baptized in JESUS name?

2. Why did Paul tell the importance and the purpose of it in the book of Romans?

3. Why did JESUS fill Paul with the Holy Ghost?

We know HE did because Paul spoke in tongues just like the rest of his team did in Acts 2:4.

4. Why did Paul speak of the importance and the purpose of it in the book of Corinthians.

5. We have SPECIFIC instructions on how to be saved, Acts 2:38 what SPECIFIC instructions does Paul give us?

If you are right those 5 questions should be simple to answer.

 

[mailmandan]

Christians: Pastors Who Don’t Know God.


Many (not all) of these men and women who inhabit the pulpit have exalted themselves above correction, or so they think. Members dare not correct them. Outsiders are pushed away. And day after day, men and women not of God continue to deceive the hearts of the simple. The simple with itching ears who heap to themselves teachers full of comfortable lies, nonsense and false promises. But this time I am not going to start off by calling out Creflo “man of God but confused and deceived by Kenneth Copeland” Dollar, former false teacher Fred Price Sr., T.D. Fakes, Paula “sleep with married Benny Hinn” White, Dale “put your name on everything to promote yourself Bronner, Peter “sucker you with free spring water packets” Popoff, Juanita “profit-ess with serious mental issues” Bynum nor Joel “Don’t Worry Be Happy” watered down Gospel Osteen. Come on people, stop falling for the show. Well I guess I did call them out.

Full article:

Christians: Pastors Who Don’t Know God. (msn.com)

Sadly, we have too many Pastors who instead of promoting Jesus Christ, end up exploiting Jesus Christ in order to promote themselves.

 

[Dino246]

What's His thesis?

That miracles still happen today.

 

[Musicmaster]

That miracles still happen today.

I agree, but not through men as in the time of the apostles.

MM

 

[Dino246]

I agree, but not through men as in the time of the apostles.

MM

Fair enough. I don't necessarily agree or disagree, but I see no point in arguing it.