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GaryA

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#41
This is a ridiculous response, sorry but true.
"Render what's due to your spouse in marriage," as the Bible says.
It is not a ridiculous response - it is the biblical intent that God has for every marriage - like it or not.

What is ridiculous is that people do not want to take it seriously - before and/or after getting married.
 

GaryA

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#42
Thank you dear for sharing this wonderful story with us. it's a pathetic situation I pray Bill and Sara receive the healing they need and have a wonderful time together. My fear is different I fear it will not go well, they may want sex like many others and I will end up being heart broken especially because I will not yield to it.
I am not sure I properly understand your statement. Do you mean 'not yield to sex' (in general) or 'not yield to a perverted manner/method of sexual activity' (such as sodomy)?
 

GaryA

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#43
I'm not interested in dating anyone, so I don't have a profile anywhere. But these are interesting questions! I hope someone can give feedback on them!


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You just might be able to offer some valuable insights by explaining why you are not interested in dating anyone...? (depending on why that is)
 

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#44
It is not a ridiculous response - it is the biblical intent that God has for every marriage - like it or not.

What is ridiculous is that people do not want to take it seriously - before and/or after getting married.
As per usual people take Paul's statement out of its historical context.
 

GaryA

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#45
As per usual people take Paul's statement out of its historical context.
Or, perhaps, they invent a reason not to accept the truth about what Paul is saying?

1 Corinthians 7:

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. 6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment. 7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that. 8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

Verses 2-5 go together - all or nothing. IF you are going to be married, THEN all of it applies.

Verse 6 is referring to the overall subject expressed by Paul in the verses before and after 2-5.

Even if not the direct commandment of God - is it not from the wisdom of God?

Otherwise, would God let Paul write/include it in Holy Scripture on a whim based on his own personal preference?



Yeah - go right ahead and 'neglect' your spouse - see how that works out for you...
 

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Or, perhaps, they invent a reason not to accept the truth about what Paul is saying?

1 Corinthians 7:

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. 6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment. 7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that. 8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

Verses 2-5 go together - all or nothing. IF you are going to be married, THEN all of it applies.

Verse 6 is referring to the overall subject expressed by Paul in the verses before and after 2-5.

Even if not the direct commandment of God - is it not from the wisdom of God?

Otherwise, would God let Paul write/include it in Holy Scripture on a whim based on his own personal preference?



Yeah - go right ahead and 'neglect' your spouse - see how that works out for you...
Do you know what was happening in the Corinthian church that caused Paul to write these words?
 

GaryA

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#47
Do you know what was happening in the Corinthian church that caused Paul to write these words?
Lots of fornication going on is beside the point - the truth of what he says remains for-all-time.

IF you are going to be married, THEN both husband and wife must be willing to "render unto the other due benevolence"...

If either of them is not willing to do this - then, they should not be married. And, it really is that simple...
 

GaryA

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#48
Keep in mind that I am talking about that which is healthy for a marriage - 'due benevolence' does not include just any form of perverted sexual activity the husband might come up with, for example. I am not saying that the wife should simply go along with "anything goes" according to the whim of her husband - don't even think it - if that is what you are afraid of.

If he truly loves her, he is not going to try to get her to do anything that is morally wrong or that will put her in a mental/emotional predicament. If he truly loves her, he only wants to please her - to give her 'due benevolence'.

However, it is reasonable for him to expect that 'due benevolence' should be rendered between them - each to the other.