The sources are numerous but because the expression is solely my own no sourcing is necessary. There are published rules on plagiarism. The general rule is when in doubt, give a citation.
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Locoponydirtman
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I copied the Athenasian creed verbatim in another thread. I dont know who wrote it. Anthenatius called it the old creed.
You did. And you gave all that information. You didn't present the information as your own.
To argue that we all plagiarize by our discussions since we have all learned from others is just lowering the bar in an attempt to make direct act of plagiarism seem less wrong.
Perhaps in a perfect world we would all go through our memory banks, notes, books and give recognition to those from whom we have learned but that does not mean we lower the bar on a message that is copied word for word, lengthy and not sourced.
Why are Christians trying to blur the lines here between right and wrong very concerning.
That's what things are coming to. Always have to be looking over our shoulder now. Big bother watching.
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Niki7
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Well you try to make it so but it isn't working since no one said the op was a bad read.
Today there is really no excuse for plagiarism. All you have to do is post the link to the original article. Then the whole world knows that you are simply quoting someone else.
If people are using the Word of God and Christianity to try and make a buck, they need to get another line of work. So-called "plagiarism" is a lie made up by the world to keep people enslaved. I don't believe it has any place in Christian circles. No one is making money here by claiming the source articles are their own, and those who feel strongly enough about it posted the sources. So no harm done.
Plagiarism is the opposite of stealing, it is sharing. If people don't want their work to be shared, they shouldn't publish it. If they want to charge for it, they should butt out of Christianity and try a worldly business. We cannot serve both God and Mammon.
If you took the card without paying for it, that would be stealing. If you make your own card, that is not. The key point is that the OP didn't take the words down from anyone's website. The words still exist at the source, so nothing was stolen.
We would all do well to remember there is nothing in the bible about "plagiarism" - this is a worldly rule. However, there is scripture against bearing false witness.
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Niki7
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Since you are the king of rude I guess you know the answer
NO ONE said she was rude. Can you read? I know you wish I would go away and that is just too bad. You don't have to
make illogical comments on my posts that have nothing to do with you because of your personal prejudice
Take a chill pill
If the card was a digital card but in order to access and share that digital card a person needed to pay $5.00 but the person was very tech savvy and found away to download/pirate the card and then shared it free of charge, the card still exists at the source but the card was also stolen.
In this case while there was no fee, ethics and integrity would demand that one would give credit where credit is due and source the material.
There is such a thing as intellectual property for a reason.
Stealing is depriving someone else of his property. Downloading it, copying it, duplicating it or otherwise "pirating" it is not stealing, irrespective of what the world states. The original owner is not deprived of his property, so it's not stealing.
(Think about it realistically. If we applied this to everything, there'd only be a few guys driving around in cars because no one else would be allowed to "steal" their ancestor's invention of the wheel. There'd be a handful using computers, phones, paper etc. "Plagiarism" is just a term invented by those who see themselves as rulers to keep everyone else poor and enslaved).
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Locoponydirtman
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Can you read? I said you were rude.
Follow the thread; you spoke to me first.
If you engage me, i may well engage you. So if you dont want to hear from me dont reply to me.
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Locoponydirtman
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Correct, intellectual property is an industrialist term used to protect monopolistic profits.
These can be strong emotions. however, we as children of GOD, we control them, we control our feeling, they don't control us, we control our minds, body's and emotions, 2 peter 1=5 fruitful growth in faith, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, virtue to knowledge, knowledge to self-control to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, to godliness brotherly kindness and to brotherly kindness love, for if these things are yours and abound, you will nether be barren nor un-fruitful in the knowledge of our lord Jesus Christ. GOD loves you.
I completely disagree.
You sound like a socialist with little knowledge of property rights.
People's ideas/innovations should be protected from corporations and stealing that is whole idea of having the ability to patent a new innovation.
It is stealing, it is taking something that is not yours and pretending it is.
This is a most ridiculous statement.
Do you know anything about how innovation works, patent laws and the ability to use other's innovations?
Every word has a semantic range like the word "stealing" and taking something that is not yours without permission and not giving the recompense due is stealing.
People's time, contributions, investment and effort deserves to be protected.
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Locoponydirtman
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I dont think anyone is saying its not proper to give credit where it is due. I think we all agree that the op should site sources. All i am saying is that ots not a crime worthy of all this banter.