It is hard to see how Solomon could have written so much about fools without recognizing some people as such.
Fools would very much appreciate it if we didn't use that word.
It is hard to see how Solomon could have written so much about fools without recognizing some people as such.
It is not taught to call people fools, it is taught love, patience, kindness, meekness, but people prefer none of that, and because they see words written that suit their way of thinking more, they choose that instead.
Why do you assume that those of us who rightly divide the word of God and see a clear distinction between the Old Testament and the New Testament are somehow not giving? What makes you think that we are not giving our lives for the cause of Christ? What leads you to believe that we haven't forsaken the things of this world in obedience to scripture? Furthermore, how is being obedient to the Old Testament Law of tithing which was for the nation of Israel, have any thing whatsoever to do with the church, which is in a different dispensation. Are you just going to completely ignore the overwhelming evidence presented in this thread by numerous contributors concerning the tithe and its purpose and to whom and what it was given? Are you even going to explore the possibility that your traditional teaching my be outdated, or are you just going to continue to post cherry-picked verses trying to justify your position? You have this misconceived notion that those of us who understand the difference between tithing and giving are some how out of touch with God. Nothing could further from the truth! As a Christian following New Testament principles and giving to my church, I find that I am giving far more that I did while under the false pretense of a 10% tithe, and guess what, I'm doing it CHEERFULY!!!Tithing is not required of Christians, it was OT law. What is required of the lukewarm Christians is to do much less. What is required of the hot Christians, is to lose their life to find it again. Definately not as the Jews would say, to tithe, or to disobey God and be cast away, and not as the modern seducers especially, who say to do even less than the ones who were cast away. But, do as Jesus says, Luke 14:16-33 Mark 10:18-30, unless you forsake all you have you cannot even be His disciple. Should hear God or man, let all decide..
Matthew 10:39
He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
Matthew 16:25
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
Matthew 19:29
And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
Mark 8:35
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
Luke 9:24
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
Why do you assume that those of us who rightly divide the word of God and see a clear distinction between the Old Testament and the New Testament are somehow not giving? What makes you think that we are not giving our lives for the cause of Christ? What leads you to believe that we haven't forsaken the things of this world in obedience to scripture? Furthermore, how is being obedient to the Old Testament Law of tithing which was for the nation of Israel, have any thing whatsoever to do with the church, which is in a different dispensation. Are you just going to completely ignore the overwhelming evidence presented in this thread by numerous contributors concerning the tithe and its purpose and to whom and what it was given? Are you even going to explore the possibility that your traditional teaching my be outdated, or are you just going to continue to post cherry-picked verses trying to justify your position? You have this misconceived notion that those of us who understand the difference between tithing and giving are some how out of touch with God. Nothing could further from the truth! As a Christian following New Testament principles and giving to my church, I find that I am giving far more that I did while under the false pretense of a 10% tithe, and guess what, I'm doing it CHEERFULY!!!
At least study the subject and try not to go into your study with a preconceived idea, rather, seek the truth. Remember, "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him GIVE; not grudgingly, or of NECESSITY: for God loveth a cheerful giver." (2 Cor. 9:7)
God added great riches on earth to Solomon specifically because he did not ask for it. See 1 Kings 3:10-13
So one would be a fool to accuse him of greed without cause. Simply being rich is not cause to accuse.
Did other rich men ask for a heart to judge their people? Solomon is the son of David, and Christ came from that lineage of David, and Solomon had a thousand wives and concubines, having all those riches and palaces, and they were the ruin of him, for he turned to their devils at his ending, so we see what riches beget.
1 Kings 11:3 And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away hisheart.
4 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that hiswives turned away his heart after other gods: and hisheart was not perfect with the Lord his God, as was the heart of David his father.
Why do you assume that those of us who rightly divide the word of God and see a clear distinction between the Old Testament and the New Testament are somehow not giving? What makes you think that we are not giving our lives for the cause of Christ? What leads you to believe that we haven't forsaken the things of this world in obedience to scripture? Furthermore, how is being obedient to the Old Testament Law of tithing which was for the nation of Israel, have any thing whatsoever to do with the church, which is in a different dispensation. Are you just going to completely ignore the overwhelming evidence presented in this thread by numerous contributors concerning the tithe and its purpose and to whom and what it was given? Are you even going to explore the possibility that your traditional teaching my be outdated, or are you just going to continue to post cherry-picked verses trying to justify your position? You have this misconceived notion that those of us who understand the difference between tithing and giving are some how out of touch with God. Nothing could further from the truth! As a Christian following New Testament principles and giving to my church, I find that I am giving far more that I did while under the false pretense of a 10% tithe, and guess what, I'm doing it CHEERFULY!!!
At least study the subject and try not to go into your study with a preconceived idea, rather, seek the truth. Remember, "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him GIVE; not grudgingly, or of NECESSITY: for God loveth a cheerful giver." (2 Cor. 9:7)
That doesn't say his heart was after riches, or the earthly power of his kingdom. Those two things were specifically things God blessed Solomon with because his heart had been for wisdom instead of those things.
Of course he is not Christ and only a man, who, like all other men, fall short of the glory of God. I was only saying that I think you were critical of Him for things in which God did not find fault. If you look for evil in man you will always find it. Someone we know said just as much....
Proverbs 11:27
Whoever diligently seeks good seeks favor, but evil comes to him who searches for it.
Why do you assume that those of us who rightly divide the word of God and see a clear distinction between the Old Testament and the New Testament are somehow not giving? What makes you think that we are not giving our lives for the cause of Christ? What leads you to believe that we haven't forsaken the things of this world in obedience to scripture? Furthermore, how is being obedient to the Old Testament Law of tithing which was for the nation of Israel, have any thing whatsoever to do with the church, which is in a different dispensation. Are you just going to completely ignore the overwhelming evidence presented in this thread by numerous contributors concerning the tithe and its purpose and to whom and what it was given? Are you even going to explore the possibility that your traditional teaching my be outdated, or are you just going to continue to post cherry-picked verses trying to justify your position? You have this misconceived notion that those of us who understand the difference between tithing and giving are some how out of touch with God. Nothing could further from the truth! As a Christian following New Testament principles and giving to my church, I find that I am giving far more that I did while under the false pretense of a 10% tithe, and guess what, I'm doing it CHEERFULY!!!
At least study the subject and try not to go into your study with a preconceived idea, rather, seek the truth. Remember, "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him GIVE; not grudgingly, or of NECESSITY: for God loveth a cheerful giver." (2 Cor. 9:7)
That doesn't say his heart was after riches, or the earthly power of his kingdom. Those two things were specifically things God blessed Solomon with because his heart had been for wisdom instead of those things.
Of course he is not Christ and only a man, who, like all other men, fall short of the glory of God. I was only saying that I think you were critical of Him for things in which God did not find fault. If you look for evil in man you will always find it. Someone we know said just as much....
Proverbs 11:27
Whoever diligently seeks good seeks favor, but evil comes to him who searches for it.
Just a minor correction for you too. God was in Christ. It is not a lie. Christ is God. All are fine.
2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
It's sad when someone doesn't correctly interpret the grammatical structure of a sentence and instead argues for its most elementary understanding.
You are making false accusations based on information you do not have. Further, you have been challenged to provide support for your assertions, and you have failed miserably.
It only remains to be seen whether you will repent of your sin or will own it and repent of it. I see no reason to continue responding to a liar.
Tithing and all the laws of the covenant, are not only for Israel, they stand for the entire world, otherwise why would God give a righteous law to follow, and then make it only for certain people, and afterwards to also abolish its existence and use altogether, that is non sense.
Yes Christians are expected to tithe, but I don't believe that it's a mandatory requirement for salvation but your rewards in Heaven will be far less if you don't tithe. The Bible says that when you sow your seed into the Kingdom of God then a blessing will be given to you in return, it also says that not tithing is robbing God.
Malachi 3:6-12 (MEV)
"For I am the Lord, I do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed. From the days of your fathers you have gone away from My ordinances and have not kept them. Return to Me, and I will return to you, says the Lord of Hosts. But you say, “How shall we return?”
Will a man rob God? Yet you have robbed Me.
But you say, “How have we robbed You?”
In tithes and offerings. You are cursed with a curse, your whole nation, for you are robbing Me. Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be food in My house, and test Me now in this, says the Lord of Hosts, if I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you a blessing, that there will not be room enough to receive it. I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, so that it will not destroy the fruit of your ground, and the vines in your field will not fail to bear fruit, says the Lord of Hosts."
Malachi 3:17-18 (MEV)
"They shall be Mine, says the Lord of Hosts, on the day when I make up My jewels. And I will spare them as a man spares his son who serves him. Then you will again discern between the righteous and the wicked, between one who serves God and one who does not serve Him."