Should a Christian tithe, what does the Bible say

[Danny1988]

if a preacher is doing his job right he should never have to ask people for money. and when you start preaching the rewards of giving money to the church you have crossed over to the prosperity gospel or what i call the gospel of greed.

Your wrong, a preacher should preach the whole counsel of God. That means the whole completed cannon of scripture, yes I know you don't like giving anything to God because you worship the god mammon.
This is a common problem with Christians, they don't like to listen to those scriptures which obliged them to give something back to God. Most Christians are only in it to use God to fulfill the lusts of their flesh

 

[posthuman]

your IQ and intelligence

that's very gracious of you, though it's not really warranted.

thanks

 

[Dino246]

You obviously worship in a false Church that doesn't preach the Word of God. The Bible warned us about these days where men would give heed to doctrines of Demons.

You obviously don't even know what a Church is supposed to do, you have been deceived. Your view of "Church" is Unicef. Now that's a money grabbing business with a greedy CEO.

If you knew what a Christian Church is you would know what a Christian Church does and you wouldn't be making these wicked and false allegations against the Church which Jesus Himself established.

More arrogant insults based on ignorance (and not following the thread). You're doing a fine job of revealing the darkness in your own heart.

 

[Dino246]

You haven't been given the gift of understanding the scriptures, God only gives that gift to His chosen shepherds.

You're in the same boat as those blind self appointed experts who came up with 40,000 sects and cults, all claiming to be the only ones who have figured it out correctly. Can you see how pathetic you are, yeah I didn't think so. Your consumed with your carnal false confidence and pride.

My pastor told me that a person doesn't need to know a single verse of the Bible to be saved. The thief on the cross simply believed in Jesus and he was saved. God is not impressed with your pride and your IQ and intelligence, He's just a bit smarter than you. Sorry to burst your bubble

You show all the grace and wisdom of a silly boy. I'm surprised you're married.

 

[Danny1988]

eh, that's entirely not the subject.

you said a couple times now that only the special chosen anointed pastors can actually rightly discern the scriptures and that God only grants understanding to them.
((what's the point of teaching?))

that's what we've been talking about.
whether salvation is by works or not is not up for debate.
((answer is no - a shepherd told me so!))

No, you don't agree with Jesus who gave us shepherds. You want to be your own shepherd and that leaves you open to the wolves. This is why so many Christians fall prey to their own foolish wisdom which leads them to destruction.

The shepherd preaches the Word of God and you go home and read about it in your Bible to acquaint yourself with it. You are not smart enough as a sheep to lead yourself, stop fooling yourself into thinking that your a shepherd. You're just a dumb sheep like the rest of us

 

[Dino246]

Your wrong, a preacher should preach the whole counsel of God. That means the whole completed cannon of scripture, yes I know you don't like giving anything to God because you worship the god mammon.
This is a common problem with Christians, they don't like to listen to those scriptures which obliged them to give something back to God. Most Christians are only in it to use God to fulfill the lusts of their flesh

This post of yours is just foolish. You have been told repeatedly that "not tithing" is not equivalent to "not giving at all". Repeating your error demonstrates that either you aren't paying attention or you aren't teachable... or both.

 

[Jewel5712]

Welcome to CC

Respectfully, tithing (giving ten percent of one's income) is required of Israelites under the Law, but not required of Christians. The Bible doesn't teach anything about tithing on one's monetary income. Rather, Christians are to give generously, regularly, as their hearts lead, for the poor and supporting the ministry, and occasionally, sacrificially.

Agreed but most of the time this means monitarily as well...but not exclusively

 

[Danny1988]

This post of yours is just foolish. You have been told repeatedly that "not tithing" is not equivalent to "not giving at all". Repeating your error demonstrates that either you aren't paying attention or you aren't teachable... or both.

My pastor warned me about, self appointed smarties like you. Sadly your type is common, but your kind don't agree with each other. You all went and read the Bible using your fallen carnal and sinful minds and you came up with thousands of stupid assumptions, all claiming to posses the truth. Making themselves wise, they became fools!

 

[Dino246]

Agreed but most of the time this means monitarily as well...but not exclusively

Yes, we are to give financially, and in other ways.

I recall one tithe-teacher start on the idea that Christians should tithe their time as well as their money. I don't think he did the math on that before preaching it.

If there's one thing I'd like to impress on people, it's that "tithing" and "giving" are not synonymous. I see much error coming from this conflation of distinct ideas. Tithing was never voluntary; giving always is.

 

[Dino246]

My pastor warned me about, self appointed smarties like you. Sadly your type is common, but your kind don't agree with each other. You all went and read the Bible using your fallen carnal and sinful minds and you came up with thousands of stupid assumptions, all claiming to posses the truth. Making themselves wise, they became fools!

To what have I appointed myself? Give up your unfounded insults. If your pastor is teaching you to treat others like this, he is not a shepherd of Christ at all.

I'm growing tired of your foolish behaviour. You aren't here to learn, and you have nothing of your own to teach; you're only parroting your pastor. Grow up.

 

[Jewel5712]

Yes, we are to give financially, and in other ways.

I recall one tithe-teacher start on the idea that Christians should tithe their time as well as their money. I don't think he did the math on that before preaching it.

If there's one thing I'd like to impress on people, it's that "tithing" and "giving" are not synonymous. I see much error coming from this conflation of distinct ideas. Tithing was never voluntary; giving always is.

I refered to some of that..we are supposed to give our "first fruits to God..money..time..etc..He doesnt want our left overs..theres..tithe..offering and giving..each has a purpose...

 

[Dino246]

I refered to some of that..we are supposed to give our "first fruits to God..money..time..etc..He doesnt want our left overs..theres..tithe..offering and giving..each has a purpose...

Under the old covenant, yes, they are distinct. We as Christians aren't under the old covenant though. There is no Scripture enjoining Christians to "tithe". If it had been a requirement, it would have been listed in Acts 15. It wasn't.

I can respect those who, in their own private giving, give ten percent because they feel that is what God wants them, specifically, to do. However, when people try to teach other Christians to tithe, I will object strenuously, because it simply is not biblically defensible. We aren't under the Law.

 

[posthuman]

No, you don't agree with Jesus who gave us shepherds. You want to be your own shepherd and that leaves you open to the wolves. This is why so many Christians fall prey to their own foolish wisdom which leads them to destruction.

The shepherd preaches the Word of God and you go home and read about it in your Bible to acquaint yourself with it. You are not smart enough as a sheep to lead yourself, stop fooling yourself into thinking that your a shepherd. You're just a dumb sheep like the rest of us

i have a shepherd, named Jesus. He's very good at what He does.

it's true that i'm stupid, but i'm not trying to take His place. He's the one who told me to seek understanding and the one who gives it just as He promises.

 

[jaybird88]

Your wrong, a preacher should preach the whole counsel of God.

and according to you this would be the prosperity gospel of greed. Jesus and the 12 preached against this.

That means the whole completed cannon of scripture, yes I know you don't like giving anything to God because you worship the god mammon.

i worship money, and you came to this conclusion because i speak against greedy churches that ask for money? makes no sense to me but ok.

This is a common problem with Christians, they don't like to listen to those scriptures which obliged them to give something back to God. Most Christians are only in it to use God to fulfill the lusts of their flesh

but your not talking about "something" in general, your talking about money and only money. and money is a lust of the flesh BTW.

 

[jaybird88]

No, you don't agree with Jesus who gave us shepherds. You want to be your own shepherd and that leaves you open to the wolves. This is why so many Christians fall prey to their own foolish wisdom which leads them to destruction.

The shepherd preaches the Word of God and you go home and read about it in your Bible to acquaint yourself with it. You are not smart enough as a sheep to lead yourself, stop fooling yourself into thinking that your a shepherd. You're just a dumb sheep like the rest of us

who are these shepherds?

 

[Danny1988]

To what have I appointed myself? Give up your unfounded insults. If your pastor is teaching you to treat others like this, he is not a shepherd of Christ at all.

I'm growing tired of your foolish behaviour. You aren't here to learn, and you have nothing of your own to teach; you're only parroting your pastor. Grow up.

Your right, I'm not here to learn from false professors like you. There are plenty of brothers and sisters here who actually share the true Gospel, because they have the gift of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Danny1988]

who are these shepherds?

Read you Bible and you will learn that a New Testament Church is led by God's appointed shepherds. The problem is too many "Christians" have ignored Gods Word and appointed themselves shepherds.

 

[Danny1988]

and according to you this would be the prosperity gospel of greed. Jesus and the 12 preached against this.


i worship money, and you came to this conclusion because i speak against greedy churches that ask for money? makes no sense to me but ok.


but your not talking about "something" in general, your talking about money and only money. and money is a lust of the flesh BTW.

The Bible tells us that God wants us to give Him our money generously, and that's a big problem for false professors because they worship the god of mammon. It's like asking you to give up your false god and that exposes false professors very quickly.

 

[Danny1988]

i have a shepherd, named Jesus. He's very good at what He does.

it's true that i'm stupid, but i'm not trying to take His place. He's the one who told me to seek understanding and the one who gives it just as He promises.

Jesus can't be your shepherd, He's in heaven so how can He shepherd you here on earth, man talk about being deceived

 

[Studyman]

Peter wasn't struck dead when he lied. 3 times in a row.

Peter said they 'conspired' - this isn't just lying, and it's not just willfully disobeying. this is premeditated: a conspiracy, a plan with a purpose and a trap.

I don't disagree.

Peter feared for his life in the face of a horrible, gut wrenching test most of us have not been forced to deal with.

Ananias set out to deceive, (Convince someone of a lie) while claiming to be a "Christian".

Although Peter lied, he was not a liar at heart. The same can't be said about the other two, IMO.

It can't be denied though, that Ananias did willfully and purposefully disobey several of God's Commandments. Had they humbled themselves to God and His instructions, they could have "Ruled over" the sin that dwelt within them. But like so "many", they wanted the prize without running the race. They wanted repentance without the change. They wanted the Grace without the Faith.