SEPT COULD BE THE RAPTURE !!!!!

[Psalm1]

Genesis 1:14 Then God said, “Let lights appear in the sky to separate the day from the night. Let them be signs to mark the seasons, days, and years.

Exactly.
It would seem God defines "day" as a normal day.

So we do not know the day of the rapture.
Just saying " day" of the rapture is off limits.
Jesus did NOT SAY "MONTH" or "season" ,as some here are transposing "day" onto a month/season.
"Month" , "season" could be revealed 4,000 years ago.
No paranoia involved

 

[Psalm1]

Maybe it should be. I think it's overdue.

This year the September Rapture became a global phenomena. A man from South Africa began sharing visions he said he received in 2018. He said Jesus told him He would come and get His Church on the Feast of Trumpets 2025. He said Jesus told him from the time Israel became a nation in 1948, until the Exodus, it would be 77 years. He said Jesus called it the Exodus. But then he said right away he just knew Jesus was talking about the Rapture. But he assumed it. Jesus never said Rapture. Since 2018 when the man from Africa, Joshua, first claimed to be getting these visions, he has added some of his own thoughts into the narrative. He said in his area of South Africa, the doctrine of the Rapture is not very popular.

But his hours of internet interviews went viral. Old women were making confirmation videos in their kitchens, young men were making videos about it from their cars. Across Europe, Korea and as far as our internet would reach.

I think it's overdue. It could happen anytime from now, until 2028. But I always default to the earliest date. Isaac Newton wrote a commentary on Daniel 9 in the 1700's. He posited a theory on why Daniel split up the 7 and the 62 weeks as separate time frames rather than just saying 69 weeks until Messiah the Prince. He thought the 7 weeks were specific to the second coming, "the compass of a Jubilee", as he called it. He figured it was so the time periods could be used, not just to measure the first coming of Christ, but could also point to the second coming of Christ as well.

With Newton writing his notes in the 1700's, he would have known about an event occurring in 1535. And therefore would have been suspecting 1969, and therefore 2018, and 2025. The things Newton suggested to be looking for, appear to be here now.

All that, and everything else going on, would urge me to leave no stone unturned. Things like the Two Witnesses, the man of sin, the mark of the beast, the Seal of God, and the Temple of God, would make me be looking for what else they could have been, if they just recently happened, but were not what the prophecy expositors always told us they would be. That exercise leads me to suspect that the 5 month prophetic time period of Revelation 9, the 5th Trumpet and the 1st Vial, took place in the first half of 2022. That would mean we could already be through most of the Trumpets, and the Vials at this time now.

September Feast of Trumpets on the Julian Calendar is 2 days beginning with the full moon at 11:45 PM my time, Eastern Time, Monday night. And runs until Wednesday night. I can't tell if I'm more worried it will happen, or worried it won't happen. Would I rather it happen during the day, or in the night while I sleep? If it doesn't happen I might be relieved, but I worry about everyone else who have all their hopes resting on it happening now. I also am not sure what happens to everyone else, and the animals, who may not be coming with us.

My conclusion at this time is that we could be much closer to, not only the "Rapture", but to the actual second coming of Christ, than the majority are realizing.

By "second coming" are you referring to Rev 19 coming on white horses?

 

[Blain]

Exactly.
It would seem God defines "day" as a normal day.

So we do not know the day of the rapture.
Just saying " day" of the rapture is off limits.
Jesus did NOT SAY "MONTH" or "season" ,as some here are transposing "day" onto a month/season.
"Month" , "season" could be revealed 4,000 years ago.
No paranoia involved

Yes but also there is this 2 Peter 3:8-9 NIV. But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness.

So if you read the chapter it speaks of his coming promise but it is a strange way to define a day in this passage and so it seems intentional

 

[Psalm1]

Yes but also there is this 2 Peter 3:8-9 NIV. But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness.

So if you read the chapter it speaks of his coming promise but it is a strange way to define a day in this passage and so it seems intentional

Yes
It all factors in.
Saying the rapture COULD BE at the same timing of the feasts is not in any way saying it IS ON a day or hour.
Not even REMOTELY connected or instructive of a day or hour prediction.

 

[DaveWatchman]

By "second coming" are you referring to Rev 19 coming on white horses?

Yes. Revelation 19.

Rejoicing in Heaven
The Marriage Supper of the Lamb
The Rider on a White Horse

That Chapter is the 7th Trumpet. It's a repetition and enlargement of the end of Chapter 11 when the Two Witnesses come back to life.

It's the same as Matthew 24:40,

"Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left.​

So will it be on the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

Luke's version at the bottom of Chapter 17 expands on this when the disciples ask: "where Lord". Where are they "taken"?

"And they said to him, “Where, Lord?” He said to them, “Where the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.”​

That's the Great Feast of God Almighty at the lower end of Revelation 19:

"Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, “Come, gather for the great supper of God, to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave, both small and great.”​

This is what I think because I am sure, like 100% sure, that the 5 months of Revelation 9, already happened. It was also coincident with the 1st Vial. These things only had an impact on the men who had taken the mark of the beast. They were asking for death, for the penalty of sin is death, but death did flee from them for five exact months. So this told me that the mark of the beast started already, around 2018.

Similar thing when Jesus was here, God was sort of slipping it in on them. People were not noticing it. Jesus was talking about John the Baptist in Matthew 11:

"For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John, and if you are willing to accept it, he is Elijah who is to come.​

Jesus was saying John the Baptist was the Elijah from the OT prophecy.

Then after the Mount of Transfiguration in Matthew 17. They're coming down the mountain.

"And the disciples asked him, “Then why do the scribes say that first Elijah must come?” He answered, “Elijah does come, and he will restore all things.​

For a second, it looked like Jesus wasn't going to tell them, then:

"But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they pleased. So also the Son of Man will certainly suffer at their hands.” Then the disciples understood that he was speaking to them of John the Baptist.​

 

[Doll]

Certain things need to align.
1) the AC revealed. ( We need to note that "revealed" is a word that does not necessarily transpose onto "in power" and/or "in place".)
The ac can be revealed an hour or a year before he takes power.
2) the temple needs built in order for the AC to desecrate it. ( hecdescecrates ot during the 7 year trib.....most likely at the halfway point)
3) unprecedented apostacy.( the world is in that now.)

It is feasible for those things to align right before the rapture.

The declaration that the fall feasts points to a sept/Oct rapture is beyond valid, and most likely spot on.

Unless God has changed and his timing, and the next events are no longer "feast connected".

I'd suggest God's mind was made up when he said no one knows when the second coming will occur.

We can post conjecture as countless persons do on the Net, and have done elsewhere for centuries.

We may observe world events and think,surely this is a sign.

Everything occurs in God's own time. So,for me,when God says we don't know,will not know, I believe him. Because in saying that he's telling us we cannot know ourselves when he will come again.

And no matter how much we think we know more than God as we speculate as to when he will come again.

 

[Doll]

Explain "day"
Explain "hour"

Educate me.

I don't waste my time with those who tell me they first don't believe what God said. When they insist they know the day and hour.

They're calling God a liar.

 

[Boughtwithaprice]

You got it backwards.

"The Science Behind the New Moon
Alignment: The New Moon happens when the Moon, Earth, and Sun are almost in a straight line, with the Moon in the middle.
Unseen Light: Since the Moon's illuminated side is facing away from Earth, the side we can see from Earth is in shadow, making it invisible.
Lunar Cycle: The New Moon is just one phase of the moon's continuous cycle as it orbits the Earth. "
(From google)

I wasn't referring to the modern terms and phases of the moon... In ancient times, the "new moon" was just that- the appearance of the new moon.

Yes, I know that modern does not agree, but that doesn't mean Scripture is wrong.

 

[DaveWatchman]

I don't waste my time with those who tell me they first don't believe what God said. When they insist they know the day and hour.

I guess we'll see pretty soon Doll. But even if the day and hour is not meant to be a Hebrew idiom, do you not think, with everything else going on, we might know the year? Might we not know even the month? Noah knew 7 days before. I know I'm not Noah, Daniel or Job. Even if these three men were in it, their righteousness could deliver only themselves, declares the Lord GOD.

I saw a guy say 6:00AM Eastern Time is our deadline on Wednesday. I think it's all day Wednesday until sundown. The Bible Days, night before light. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Monday night, Tuesday day. Tuesday night, Wednesday day.

They're calling God a liar.

Heaven forbid! Nor would it have entered into my mind to say such a thing.

Let God be true, and every man a liar.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Lol
The parallels in the feasts are unmistakable.
It's like examining the Passover feast and the parallels to Jesus and you calling it foolishness.

Your deal is beyond foolish.

Total lacking discernment.
I suppose the parables are foolish also since they also Contain multiple parallels, making your perspective of them multiple foolishness.

Just plain ignorant to shove that much bible off the table.

So why are we all still here in October???

 

[Doll]

I guess we'll see pretty soon Doll. But even if the day and hour is not meant to be a Hebrew idiom, do you not think, with everything else going on, we might know the year? Might we not know even the month? Noah knew 7 days before. I know I'm not Noah, Daniel or Job. Even if these three men were in it, their righteousness could deliver only themselves, declares the Lord GOD.

I saw a guy say 6:00AM Eastern Time is our deadline on Wednesday. I think it's all day Wednesday until sundown. The Bible Days, night before light. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Monday night, Tuesday day. Tuesday night, Wednesday day.



Heaven forbid! Nor would it have entered into my mind to say such a thing.

Let God be true, and every man a liar.

For me, when God says we don't know,that's it.

Projecting and thinking the Jews high holy day,new year, Rosh Hashanah, fits the Rapture passage is undertaking the effort to second guess God.

Jesus said no man knows,not even he knows.

Anyone who insists they know the date or time, is calling God a liar.
They're saying,God is wrong because they know the date and time.
They're the liars.

We'll see? It's October. Julian or Gregorian calendar. God told us,you, we, Jesus,don't know.

Only God knows.

You'll be here,we will all be here for years after reading this,God willing.

Hopefully we won't keep trying to second guess God.

 

[DeanM]

To presume to predict the begining of the end when Jesus said the hour and the day only the Father knows, is nonsense. Nobody knows.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

So why are we all still here in October???

Another Day ( or two ) Of Grace to reach the lost with God's Grace, Peace, Mercy, And Love!

And then to help them understand/Prepare For God's Bema Seat JUDGMENT! (1 Cor 3:8-15 AV)

Which Will Occur At The [ God-Only-KNOWS-When ] IMMINENT Great GRACE Departure! {aka rapture}

???

 

[DaveWatchman]

Jesus said no man knows,not even he knows.

I keep looking at this for the thousandth time. I don't think Jesus was talking about what we think He is.

Anyone who insists they know the date or time, is calling God a liar.

I wish you wouldn't say that. Nobody is calling God a liar.

You'll be here, we will all be here for years after reading this, God willing.

I like this part, that sounds reassuring. Write more like that. We can comfort one another with these words.

Hopefully we won't keep trying to second guess God.

"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.​

I'm not trying to second guess God, I obviously believe what Jesus said. I just don't think this verse is talking about what we think it's talking about.

The weeks in Daniel 9 contradict us not being able to know the timing of the coming of the Son of Man. But only the Father can know that day and that hour, not even Jesus can know the exact day and hour. The problem is in that word "know". It can also mean to perceive, or to understand, or to be "sure of". Only the Father can be sure of it.

It's because when Jesus appears, we will be like Him. Before He gets here everyone has to be Sealed with the Seal of God, or they have the mark of the beast. After that it's just new babies being born. I was reading that everyday there are roughly 360,000 new babies born. Probably some of those were meant to be our brothers and our fellow servants. They probably want to go in the Rapture too. Whether they know it or not. Only the Father can be sure of that. He's the One who writes their names in the book of life.

When Jesus got to heaven He was given the book with 7 seals, the book of life. It was already sealed when He got there, and only He could open it. Jesus said He would never blot out our names from the book of life, but all those names were already written there by the Father. That's why I think the Father has to call the exact hour Christ appears. Only the Father can be sure of that exact timing.

But I'm almost sure we can know the year.

 

[Jackson129]

If the AC is revealed and all believers are arrested and put into huge open air. Compounds.
Even then the rapture could happen a week later.
THAT IS STILL A PRETRIB RAPTURE.

No that's a mid trib rapture

 

[Psalm1]

No that's a mid trib rapture

My description is pretrib.
Show me anywhere my description is mid trib.

 

[Psalm1]

To presume to predict the begining of the end when Jesus said the hour and the day only the Father knows, is nonsense. Nobody knows.

...but to ignore the season is ignorant.

 

[Psalm1]

I wasn't referring to the modern terms and phases of the moon... In ancient times, the "new moon" was just that- the appearance of the new moon.

Yes, I know that modern does not agree, but that doesn't mean Scripture is wrong.

That is a great point.
The last sliver and the "new" sliver, with 1 to 3 days of a "dark" moon.

There are many here in this thread ,hammering the " no man knows the day or the hour" verse.
As if that prohibits a rapture connected to the fall feasts.

I also see them insisting nasa, or modern technology, as a predictor of the exact hour of roshashana, or feast of Trumpets.

The 1 to 3 day lag of the dark moon, and possible overcast sky, would line up with "nobody knows the day or hour", of the feast beginning point.

There is just a ton of interesting parallels and pointers to a fall rapture.

 

[Psalm1]

I don't waste my time with those who tell me they first don't believe what God said. When they insist they know the day and hour.

They're calling God a liar.

I guess you are unable to answer my basic question ?

It was: "define "day" and "hour"."

Was he confused ?
Jesus rebuked the religious leaders more than once for failure to discern seasons.

Seasons has nothing to do with "day"/"hour"

 

[Mem]

I guess you are unable to answer my basic question ?

It was: "define "day" and "hour"."

Was he confused ?
Jesus rebuked the religious leaders more than once for failure to discern seasons.

Seasons has nothing to do with "day"/"hour"

I get what you're saying as Jesus says that we can tell the season, i.e. "when the tender leaves sprout, we know that summer is near..."

As I consider what might signify the day and what signifies the hour, I'm thinking that the moon marks the day (i.e. new moon is first day, and the full moon is two weeks later...) and the sun marks the hour (i.e. the sundial, and God stopping the sun for Joshua). And, unless I'm mistaken, the year can be determined in accordance with the position of the stars and planets.