SEPT COULD BE THE RAPTURE !!!!!
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If you want clarity, do what the scripture commands and take ALL things to Him. who promises to guide in ALL truth.
Online debate isn't it.
Yes and im just specifying how I believe that I, and many others arent leaning on our own understanding. We do seek God, and we look into scripture for interpretation.
We dont look to signs or events or extra biblical interpretations and form opinions of scripture or God based off of those. Well, I do at times, but that has to do with the original languages/historical backgrounds of those times.
I myself will not look to prayer to know the truth of God, I will rather look to prayer to proclaim Gods truth. Many are the same way. We go to God and bring all things to him, but we fact check with his Word. We place less emphasis on extrabiblical revelation.
Some Christians are more Mystic, and some are the opposite. We can get along and ask questions/ disagree. That doesnt mean we arent all family, you know?
I believe we have a misunderstanding because I wasnt trying to debate, I was asking for the scriptures so that I could properly understand what you were talking about, only so that I could, in my private time, weigh what youre saying and see if it has any truth to it.
I was only going to read the scriptures, look into the meaning contextually and gain a understanding of what they actually mean.
In your OP, you posted a link to Robinson, who claims the 'rapture' date may be September 22-24, 2025 while also stating the antichrist is here now and is - or could be - Trump -
"After the Harvest, a Trumpet is blown, and all of God's people are gathered together in one place to celebrate. It is certain that when Jesus returns for His church to remove us from the earth before the seven-year Tribulation, it will be during the Feast of Trumpets. This year, this Feast is celebrated during the two days of September 22-24, 2025."
"Who is the most powerful man on Earth today? Who on Earth has he exhibited genius in making peace? Who has exhibited genius in financial matters? Who has exhibited genius in military might? Who is proud and boasting about his accomplishments? According to the prophecies of Daniel, only one man will have these first five attributes in the final days just before the Tribulation begins. This man is here on Earth right now."
"The antichrist will arrive on Earth before the Rapture and the Tribulation and begin to exhibit the first five of ten attributes Daniel predicted for this world ruler. There is only one man currently who has met all five of these requirements. He is the most powerful man on Earth today."
On this web page [ink], Robinson details why Trump could be the antichrist but then denies calling Trump the antichrist -
"... I am not saying that Donald Trump is the antichrist, only that at the present time he is accomplishing all of the peace plans that the antichrist will seek to obtain. We will have to wait and see who the antichrist is when he is revealed."
"Remember that we are 37 days from The Feast of Trumpets, the event that will likely be the time when Jesus will fulfill 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. If these events are of interest to you, all of these PROPHECIES of the Last Days are found in my new book, “Days of Wrath: The Final Sign.” l
So to cover all bases: 'Rapture' may be September 22-24, 2025, or it may not be. Trump may be the antichrist, or may not be. That's a whole lot of wishy-washy speculation, and yet he claims these are prophecies.
This is hugely problematic. If these were actual prophecies from the Lord, which is literally hearing directly from God and repeating His words, it would be clear, concise and with zero errors. Prophecy is not speculation, so right out the gate this proves Robinson to be false.
Also to note: you have to buy his book to read his alleged $prophecies$... so buyer beware.
I think your reasoning is sound. However the problem is twofold at least, with setting a timeframe.
There is no question the Word gives us signs to know the general timeframe.
That’s why we know we’re close. But aside from the fully recognized by all “no man knows the hour or day” reference, ALL of the 10 virgins were surprised when the Lord (bridegroom) came back.
So the very fact you expect him to come back in a very narrow timeline, likely means He ISNT coming in that timeline.
This comes from the view Jesus fufills all the Feasts of the Lord, Tabernacles being when He was Born, Death & Resurrection at Passover and etc.
It is believed that Christ has not fufilled The Feast of Trumpets because that will be fulfilled in the last days known as The Seven Trumpets (Revelation 8:7-12) and at the Last Trumpet Jesus will Return, “It will happen in a moment, in the blink of an eye, when the last trumpet is blown. For when the trumpet sounds, those who have died will be raised to live forever. And we who are living will also be transformed,” (1 Corinthians 15:52), and “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” (Matthew 24: 29-31).
I've been in the scriptures today, listening to the gospels and whatnot. because, you know, I'm a 23 year old boomer. I want you know know dear brother Eli, you have created this monster...you made claiming to be a boomer too funny. I may not have grown up eating dirt, and you know, like dialing up friends on tablets of stone. But..
Anyway, scripturally I've come to the conclusion that its not wrong to like sense that the times are near. That's going to happen. We are given signs for a reason.
Now setting dates and predicting the times, I don't believe we are supposed to do.
Mark 13:32, Matthew 24:42-44, 2 Peter 3:10, Mark 13:5-23
The rapture will be on a date and a time nobody is prepared for, and to all saying Jesus had given them a dream of the rapture and a date, This is impossible, not even He knows the time. I believe you are hearing these things from a demon disguised as an angel of light. It's unfortunate how mislead we are.
2 Corinthians 11:14
Anyway, scripturally I've come to the conclusion that its not wrong to like sense that the times are near. That's going to happen. We are given signs for a reason.
Now setting dates and predicting the times, I don't believe we are supposed to do.
Mark 13:32, Matthew 24:42-44, 2 Peter 3:10, Mark 13:5-23
The rapture will be on a date and a time nobody is prepared for, and to all saying Jesus had given them a dream of the rapture and a date, This is impossible, not even He knows the time. I believe you are hearing these things from a demon disguised as an angel of light. It's unfortunate how mislead we are.
2 Corinthians 11:14
Night Twister, I gave up years ago trying to guess the timing of the End. No one knows this date. Just learn to serve God to the best of your ability until your last breath on planet earth. Maybe it will come before my death and yours, or maybe not; either way, we serve the Lord no matter what.
You are awesome and blessed for being a Berean and digging further into scripture on your own!!
Regarding false prophecies: I think it's one of two things. I totally agree with you that some are contacting demons for their information, unknowingly or knowingly. Others are just chasing a buck, fame, or both, and have no qualms about making stuff up for their own gain. Either way... yeah, they're false prophets and equally condemned by God.
