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[Magenta]

Universal Redemption

They are Pelagian heretics. But we don't expect them to acknowledge such...

They want to believe a bad tree can produce good fruit even though Jesus said it was not possible.

Pelagian heretics insist man is inherently good. From within the hearts of men come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, wickedness, deceit, debauchery, envy, slander, arrogance, and foolishness. Mark 7 verses 21-22 Every inclination of man's heart is evil from his youth. Genesis 8 verse 21b Who can bring out clean from unclean? No one! Job 14 verse 4 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Matthew 7 verse 18

 

[GWH]

Sure, but none of that requires 2 independent truths being reconciled that need no reconciliation.

Well then why does the UGE thread exist?!

 

[Cameron143]

Well then why does the UGE thread exist?!

What is uge?

 

[Mouse_Cheeks]

Exactly. He sends His Son to be Savior of the world. Why can men not understand this truth?

BOOM. You Can't.

Nature and all that exists is proof of God its creator,yes.

That doesn't ever mean everyone that also exist in that creation know God. Or, his Salvation.

Nor does the scripture claim that.

Atheists exist in God's creation.

 

[Mouse_Cheeks]

They are Pelagian heretics. But we don't expect them to acknowledge such...

They want to believe a bad tree can produce good fruit even though Jesus said it was not possible.

Pelagian heretics insist man is inherently good. From within the hearts of men come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, wickedness, deceit, debauchery, envy, slander, arrogance, and foolishness. Mark 7 verses 21-22 Every inclination of man's heart is evil from his youth. Genesis 8 verse 21b Who can bring out clean from unclean? No one! Job 14 verse 4 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Matthew 7 verse 18

https://www.gotquestions.org/Pelagianism.html

What a shame.

 

[Magenta]

What is uge?

It's a Donald saying...

 

[Cameron143]

It's a Donald saying...

I didn't realize he had his own thread.

 

[Magenta]

I didn't realize he had his own thread.

He has a few videos...

And how co-inky dinky! This is very similar to how one of our members speaks...

 

[lrs68]

Just curious after reading this page 83 who doesn't believe Adam's sin affects all humans born?

 

[Magenta]

What is uge?

uge

 

[studier]

Just curious after reading this page 83 who doesn't believe Adam's sin affects all humans born?

If you're wondering due to the link re: Pelagian it's a customary accusation from the spiritual death = a corpse tradition. But you probably know this. I disagree with both of them.

 

[Kroogz]

Nature and all that exists is proof of God its creator,yes.

That doesn't ever mean everyone that also exist in that creation know God. Or, his Salvation.

Nor does the scripture claim that.

Atheists exist in God's creation.

Go ahead. Tell men that they can believe in His creation. They can believe in His morals. They can believe him as Creator.


Us believers who are advancing in His truth will tell unbelievers of His Son. So that everyone does know.

 

[lrs68]

If you're wondering due to the link re: Pelagian it's a customary accusation from the spiritual death = a corpse tradition. But you probably know this. I disagree with both of them.

I was skimming the pages and couldn't find who claimed we're not born into sin because of Adam so I am wondering why the sudden display of false doctrine mentioned.

 

[studier]

I was skimming the pages and couldn't find who claimed we're not born into sin because of Adam so I am wondering why the sudden display of false doctrine mentioned.

What specific false doctrine are you speaking of?

 

[Magenta]

If you're wondering due to the link re: Pelagian it's a customary accusation from the spiritual
death = a corpse tradition. But you probably know this. I disagree with both of them.

Because being made spiritually alive while you were spiritually dead is not something you agree with. Yes, we know.

You believe the spiritually dead person can receive and comprehend that which Scripture says he cannot.

 

[lrs68]

What specific false doctrine are you speaking of?

Read the post above me that's what I am talking about ^

 

[studier]

Read the post above me that's what I am talking about ^

I'm not even sure I understand what the issue is.

As for false doctrine and claims of false doctrine, without these there would be no forum.

 

[Mouse_Cheeks]

Go ahead. Tell men that they can believe in His creation. They can believe in His morals. They can believe him as Creator.


Us believers who are advancing in His truth will tell unbelievers of His Son. So that everyone does know.

What a very strange disjointed post.

 

[Mouse_Cheeks]

Because being made spiritually alive while you were spiritually dead is not something you agree with. Yes, we know.

You believe the spiritually dead person can receive and comprehend that which Scripture says he cannot.

Do you ever get the feeling we at times are encountering those who have never read the Bible? Don't even own one.

Their purpose here is to posit a contrary argument to actual scripture just to watch us react.

Because those who contradict Jesus teachings never post scripture that is on point with their contrary conviction. If they post scripture at all.

 

[lrs68]

Or could some be reacting to your posts and false meaning to scriptures in a similar way that the Disciples most likely did when a legion of demons begged God to enter into swine and then watched them run over a cliff into the ocean killing the entire herd of swine...