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Lamar said:
If grace is the sole agency of redemption then there is no need of faith.

If grace is the sole agency of redemption then there are no "must be received in faith".

As a matter of fact there should be no "must be" period!
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Absolutely correct - no "must be" requirements exist for salvation, besides that God had chosen that person for salvation from before the foundation of the world, and few there be that can understand or accept that - and that's what makes it by grace - the faith was His, not ours, otherwise it would have to be by our works. He alone as Savior did everything required for salvation on our behalf. From/by/through salvation, we are given faith in Him as Savior as a gift, but that faith an accompaniment to salvation, it does not cause it.

[Tit 3:5 KJV] 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
 
Mouse_Cheeks said:
No it doesn't.

My post asked you a question. And you have demonstrated it is one you are unable to answer.

That's fine. I accept that as your answer.
And, we're done.
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Your post states Could God Know what became of Abel...

And I responded as I did because I hate to assume like you thinking I am playing games.
 
DeanM said:
That has nothing to do with original sin.
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Original sin,damned at birth,is unbiical. It is Augustinian.

Not of God.

"I will give thanks to you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works, and my soul knows it very well." Psalm 139:14
 
lrs68 said:
Well, think about it and really hard if you have to for a minute, hour, days, weeks whatever but the entire Bible is inspired by God so it's already telling us what He said and my post is 100% what He said.
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Here's the thing.
You're right.
That's what you think.
The Bible says what you think.

And then as proof you're right,you example what you think the Bible leads you to believe and become as you defend what you think.

However, your snide condescension and arrogance are the fruits of the natural mind.
Your interpretation and that of those who hold to human will as able to work to change God's will, saves me the trouble of saying at all anymore; you are wrong.

And yet that serves to reiterate God is always right.

He saw you and those as self-assured as you coming.
 
Mouse_Cheeks said:
"I will give thanks to you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works, and my soul knows it very well." Psalm 139:14
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Just commenting on this verse not to the one who posted it.

Rather amazing to think God created us all the same way as this verse indicates but some think most are still created for eternal damnation after God carefully created them...
 
Mouse_Cheeks said:
Here's the thing.
You're right.
That's what you think.
The Bible says what you think.

And then as proof you're right,you example what you think the Bible leads you to believe and become as you defend what you think.

However, your snide condescension and arrogance are the fruits of the natural mind.
Your interpretation and that of those who hold to human will as able to work to change God's will, saves me the trouble of saying at all anymore; you are wrong.

And yet that serves to reiterate God is always right.

He saw you and those as self-assured as you coming.
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Human Will?

Because we accept His invitation?
 
lrs68 said:
Your post states Could God Know what became of Abel...

And I responded as I did because I hate to assume like you thinking I am playing games.
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My actual post:
Did God require Cain to give an answer before God could know what became of Abel?

Now,we are done.
 
Mouse_Cheeks said:
My actual post:
Did God require Cain to give an answer before God could know what became of Abel?

Now,we are done.
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Yeah, I wrote what you wrote and still wonder if you think God was actually waiting on Cain to explain in order to know what happened to Abel.
 
rogerg said:
Absolutely correct - no "must be" requirements exist for salvation, besides that God had chosen that person for salvation from before the foundation of the world, and few there be that can understand or accept that - and that's what makes it by grace - the faith was His, not ours, otherwise it would have to be by our works. He alone as Savior did everything required for salvation on our behalf. From/by/through salvation, we are given faith in Him as Savior as a gift, but that faith an accompaniment to salvation, it does not cause it.

[Tit 3:5 KJV] 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
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We must be born again! .:)

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John 5 verses 28-29
 
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Lamar said:
If grace is the sole agency of redemption then there is no need of faith.
so God just picks and chooses who to
Give salvation to?
If grace is the sole agency of redemption then there are no "must be received in faith".
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You will have to talk to Paul
for us is by grace we have been saved
1. it’s a completed action
2. It is by grace alone

Through faith

1 God does not force you to receive it

As a matter of fact there should be no "must be" period!
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Again talk to oaul
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GWH said:
Each soil prepares itself. The parable teaches us to be fertile soil.
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Show me soil that prepares itself. You could make millions selling self-preparing soil to farmers. I must know alot of stupid farmers because they still use tractors and fertilizer.
 
Mouse_Cheeks said:
Original sin,damned at birth,is unbiical. It is Augustinian.

Not of God.

"I will give thanks to you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works, and my soul knows it very well." Psalm 139:14
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Those who are not of the elect are damned at their death.
 
Cameron143 said:
Show me soil that prepares itself. You could make millions selling self-preparing soil to farmers. I must know alot of stupid farmers because they still use tractors and fertilizer.
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Neither do farmers throw seed around willy-nilly all over the place.
 
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