Context matters. Except to you, apparently. That's what years of study left you with.
Saved by faith alone?
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I had a similar thought, without the stop.
You just told me Jesus said if you believe you have EL.
So, it seems to me you're stuck with having to decide if you also need faith, or if Jesus was wrong, or if belief and faith are the same thing.
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Once again
if I belief but My belief does not reach the state of confidence or faith
am I saved
if you don’t answer I will assume you can’t. Or you are just playing games
I'd just go with playing word games for them. Obviously demons believe but are not saved.
The question should be what do they believe? They believe that there is one God. This is what Scripture actually says:
You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
It says nothing of them believing the gospel or having faith that Jesus can save them. Any cursory
reading of Scripture will in fact reveal that the demons knew Jesus was going to destroy them.
It looks to me like you need to tell Jesus that we need faith for EL not just belief.
So, it looks to me like you're confused.
Before one believes. Same as being made alive in Christ. I know free willers think they effectuate that change while they are spiritually dead. But you know that makes zero sense given all Scripture has to say on the matter, including Jesus saying with man it is impossible. Similar to Him saying a bad tree cannot produce good fruit. The natural man does not decide to believe that which is foolishness to him, to which he is adamantly opposed and unable to comprehend or accept/receive, while hostile in his mind to God, a slave to sin, captive to the will of the devil, a lover of darkness, defined as darkness itself, and suppressing the truth in unrighteousness. Do these very salient Biblical facts ever get acknowledged by you, or do you just routinely ignore them and brush them aside as inconvenient and unworthy of consideration?
Philippians 3 verse 3; Colossians 2 verse 11; Romans 2 verse 29b ~ For it is we who are the circumcision, we who worship by the Spirit of God, who glory in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh. You were also circumcised, in the putting off of your sinful nature, with the circumcision performed by Christ and not by human hands. Circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code.
Your playing
for god so lived the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever faiths in him
what’s wrong with this as written
You don’t faith something. That’s wrong us if the word
you say believe
but again
if I believe but do not trust am i saved
why are you so afraid to answer!
Yeah. It's from line upon line and precept upon precept. Google and search tools haven't caught up with real study yet. Obviously babes in Christ and churchianity haven't either.
What did the children of Isreal believe when they looked to the serpent
what do we believe when we look to the cross
Am starting to Doubt your seriousness
Actually it was Paul who mentioned it but he said what he got to share with us came directly from Jesus:
3 For I say, through the grace that was given me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think as to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to each man a measure of faith.
Yes, and a good example of why it's best not to just accept what everyone says. Simple mistake.
What's the context?