so I can believe and not trust and I am saved still?
There's no different word for faith, belief, trust in the Greek Text. And it uses believe and faith interchangeably, as do most English translations, including in regard to Abraham.
so I can believe and not trust and I am saved still?
He tried to explain it numerous times.
They left with satan did they not?
What do you think. Do they trust God or Satan?
I think they believed, trusted and had faith in Satan and thus not in God. How about you?
So, again, what does it mean to have faith in Satan? For what?
IOW, who is God to them?
Yes. And Yes.Do you trust Jesus can take you to heaven? You just have to trust him?
Belief that falls short of trusting exclusively in Jesus Christ for salvation is not saving belief. It's too late for the demons. They made their choice to reject God and follow Satan when they were expelled from heaven. Their fate is sealed. Faith that saves trusts 100% in Jesus Christ for salvation and not 50% in Jesus Christ and 50% in works for example.So, the moral of the story for you is that belief is either belief in some facts without trusting Jesus for salvation or Belief that trusts Jesus for salvation, correct?
And basically, the same applies to the demons, correct?
So, Faith essentially boils down to trusting Jesus for salvation.
Am I misunderstanding you anywhere?
Yes. And Yes.
You should read your analogy/story a little closer.
The story is about us getting in the basket(work) and getting a"cross" by our faith.
Where it is by GRACE( Him going aCROSS) and we simply believe.
Belief that falls short of trusting exclusively in Jesus Christ for salvation is not saving belief. It's too late for the demons. They made their choice to reject God and follow Satan when they were expelled from heaven. Their fate is sealed. Faith that saves trusts 100% in Jesus Christ for salvation and not 50% in Jesus Christ and 50% in works for example.
Acts 19 verse 15 Eventually, one of the evil spirits answered them, “Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?”IOW, who is God to them?
If it's in agreement with post #1,226.So, my summary was correct?
Again I ask can I believe something is true but not trust that something and still be saved?There's no different word for faith, belief, trust in the Greek Text. And it uses believe and faith interchangeably, as do most English translations, including in regard to Abraham.
Look a little closer.Isn't getting in the basket, works?
You seemingly used believe and faith interchangeably.
I literally just said thisI think they believed, trusted and had faith in Satan and thus not in God. How about you?
If it's in agreement with post #1,226.
NoYes. And Yes.
You should read your analogy/story a little closer.
The story is about us getting in the basket(work) and getting a"cross" by our faith.
Where it is by GRACE( Him going aCROSS) and we simply believe.
I literally just said this
Actually the moment they had faith they were savedIsn't getting in the basket, works?
You seemingly used believe and faith interchangeably.
did they follow Satan or GodSo, again, what does it mean to have faith in Satan? For what?
No not all forms of belief equals trust or faithSo, faith, belief and trust are the same thing?
Salvation can not be lost so this is a mute pointLook a little closer.
Their argument makes that distinction.
Not really being saved because of the lack of works is the EXACT same thing As losing salvation because of the lack of works.
It's works based with both arguments.