Save us from sin v Save us from Hell ?

[Jackson123]

In discussions about the law , grace , works, Faith , Lordship salvation, Conditional salvation and such ,that there seems to be an interesting thing that comes to the surface . A focus on being saved from sin . I used to listen to David Pawson in my early years as a Christian and this seemed to be his focus . " Jesus came to save us from sin ' . This sounds right and good on the surface. So is there an issue ? Well its interesting.
There definitely seems to be a difference with these two approaches . For me I've come to understand that the main focus is being saved from Judgement. So basically, saved from the wrath to come . I heard others respond to this somewhat disparagingly. Using such terms as ' fire insurance ' . They will focus more on being saved from sin. Of course it can be both . Saved from the consequences of sin which is hell ultimately. But this is not how its taught .
Thoughts ?

Save from judgement by save from sin.
God love sinner but hate sin.

Paul say he didn't want to do sin but he did.

Paul save because he hate sin but not from sinning.

Roman 7
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
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[Jackson123]

A person that sins may still find salvation and avoid the Lake of Fire. This sinful part of them is burned away in purification. Wouldn't it be optimal to have as little sinfulness as possible so that we lose less of ourselves during the purification?

There is a subtle distinction between "deliver us from evil" and "deliver us from hellfire damnation".

Are you talking about purgatory?

 

[Jocund]

What do you really know about the refiner's fire, which has nothing to do with the Lake of Fire?

You can call it whatever you like, but the point is that on Judgement Day there is a trial by fire (1 Corinthians 3:13-15), and the Matthew 3 talks about the bad trees being burned away (Matthew 13 describes them as tares being burned) and then each wheat is separated from its chaff and that chaff is burned. Matthew 13 talks about the wheat being taken into the barn.

"And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire." - Matthew 3:10-12

"But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn." - Matthew 13:29-30 KJV

If you feel that the unquenchable fire is not the same thing as the Lake of Fire, that's fine. If you don't feel like the concept of purifying fire is the same thing as winnowing and then burning the chaff, that's fine. The notion remains the same that the tares and the chaff (the unfruitful parts of those that are saved) are burned in fire when the Day of Judgement comes. The wheat is made pure and then taken to the barn (which may be New Jerusalem based on what Revelation says happens after Judgement to those that are saved).