Romans 10:13
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If it's been transmitted, it's not an autograph.
So where is a perfect, guaranteed completely unaltered, copy of the Torah now?
Do you have one?
The_Watchers_2017 said:
Christianity is just an association
I think we have different religions.
No Doubt, I am in a Relationship with the Father/WORD/Holy Spirit, and You are in a Religion like You admitted.
Christianity is just an association
I think we have different religions.
No Doubt, I am in a Relationship with the Father/WORD/Holy Spirit, and You are in a Religion like You admitted.
Without Christianity, you would not have that relationship.
Christians are sons of God by regeneration, not only by adoption. We have the gift of the Holy Spirit born in us. Without Paul and the other NT writers, you would not know that. Christianity is FAR more than an "association."
That's an assumption. You may believe it, and hence assert that Moses made 13 copies of the Torah, but you don't know it for a fact.
I want to mention this one more time for something really Interesting and Educational:
How do we know that the Torah we have today is the same text given on Mount Sinai?
The Torah was originally dictated from God to Moses, letter for letter. From there, the Midrash (Devarim Rabba 9:9) tells us:
Before his death, Moses wrote 13 Torah Scrolls. Twelve of these were distributed to each of the 12 Tribes. The 13th was placed in the Ark of the Covenant (with the Tablets). If anyone would come and attempt to rewrite or falsify the Torah, the one in the Ark would "testify" against him. (Likewise, if he had access to the scroll in the Ark and tried to falsify it, the distributed copies would "testify" against him.)
How were the new scrolls verified? An authentic "proof text" was always kept in the Holy Temple in Jerusalem, against which all other scrolls would be checked.Following the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE, the Sages would periodically perform global checks to weed out any scribal errors.
VARob:
You keep saying Jesus quoted the Septuagint a lot.
But this is a factual upkeeping of the History of the Torah. And the Torah, [[unlike the Septuagint]], according to these recordings, Only the Tanakh was kept in the Holy of Holies. The Book that God Himself ordered for the Temple's Holy of Holies is definitely the Version of the Bible I WANT!
How do we know that the Torah we have today is the same text given on Mount Sinai?
The Torah was originally dictated from God to Moses, letter for letter. From there, the Midrash (Devarim Rabba 9:9) tells us:
Before his death, Moses wrote 13 Torah Scrolls. Twelve of these were distributed to each of the 12 Tribes. The 13th was placed in the Ark of the Covenant (with the Tablets). If anyone would come and attempt to rewrite or falsify the Torah, the one in the Ark would "testify" against him. (Likewise, if he had access to the scroll in the Ark and tried to falsify it, the distributed copies would "testify" against him.)
How were the new scrolls verified? An authentic "proof text" was always kept in the Holy Temple in Jerusalem, against which all other scrolls would be checked.Following the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE, the Sages would periodically perform global checks to weed out any scribal errors.
VARob:
You keep saying Jesus quoted the Septuagint a lot.
But this is a factual upkeeping of the History of the Torah. And the Torah, [[unlike the Septuagint]], according to these recordings, Only the Tanakh was kept in the Holy of Holies. The Book that God Himself ordered for the Temple's Holy of Holies is definitely the Version of the Bible I WANT!
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Maybe it's time to interject with some comic relief?
Old Dan Tucker was a fine old man
He washed his face in a frying pan
He combed his hair with a wagon wheel
And died of a toothache in his heel
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Here come old flat top
He roller coaster
He got early warning
He got muddy water
He one Mojo filter
He say one and one and one is three
Got to be good looking
'Cause he's so hard to see
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A spinster lady was asked why she never married. Well; she said: I've got a
hound that lays around the house all day, a stove that smokes, and a bird
that cusses. What do I need a man for?
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Faith is believin' somethin' you know ain't so.
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It ain't what you know that gets you in trouble,
It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
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Burma Shave
Maybe it's time to interject with some comic relief?
Old Dan Tucker was a fine old man
He washed his face in a frying pan
He combed his hair with a wagon wheel
And died of a toothache in his heel
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Here come old flat top
He roller coaster
He got early warning
He got muddy water
He one Mojo filter
He say one and one and one is three
Got to be good looking
'Cause he's so hard to see
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
A spinster lady was asked why she never married. Well; she said: I've got a
hound that lays around the house all day, a stove that smokes, and a bird
that cusses. What do I need a man for?
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Faith is believin' somethin' you know ain't so.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
It ain't what you know that gets you in trouble,
It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
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Burma Shave
I was responding to post 11 and this comment
" One has to be saved in order to call upon the name of the Lord."
Which is utter nonsense.