Revolution in Iran
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American empire.
btw the spigots of bile opened up again in the other thread and got it shut down thank God
Yes, I reported it today after fruitlessly trying to come to a peace with HeisHere as I had seemed to with you. And and I agree, I'm glad it was shut down.
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The point I was meaning is it doesn't seem to be planned in advance. If it was the A. Lincoln could outrun all of the escort/support ships in it's group but that's not what would take place. The slowest of the group sets the pace so 15-20 knots. If it was planned the submarines cause cavitation if running more than 4-5 knots and hiding close to the oilers gives high/low frequency/dead spots so passive radar dangers. the DDG's if running 30 knots need to be refueled before they get there but either way actually because running fast burns more fuel. The whole Carrier Group moves together and so if it was pre-planned it would have arrived there when the protest began or shortly after. They would have moved troops and advised US citizens to leave places beforehand and there would be no problem locating the whereabouts of Iran's upper chain of command and so they would be confident they could end their control. None of the things were in place when the protest began that would be needed if it was pre-planned by Israel,Musk and the US ect. they were all set in motion after the protest/uprising began.
What do you think mainstream media is?
The protests are not campaign rallies that end when there is an election.
The problems are simple --
1. 5 years of 40% inflation year on year so that now no one can afford anything.
2. No water in parts of Iran so that now they want to move Tehran, a city of about 10 million. Of course the people are extremely upset.
3. Total humiliation in the war with Israel.
In every way they have mismanaged the country. Now in response to the protests
4. They shut down the internet which includes shutting down the banks and hence shutting down the economy.
5. Iran is under sanctions because of the terrorists that run the country. They were forced to sell their oil on the black market through Venezuela but now they can't do that, so the situation is even worse than it was.
6. Trump is going to hit any country assisting Iran with a 25% tariff, which also makes the situation even worse than it was.
7. The Mossad is arming Iranians to fight against the IRGC.
None of these situations has been addressed or solved. Therefore the protests have not ended.
8. Yes, they have killed thousands and now it appears the number dead is far greater than the 12 or 20,000 previously estimated. They were spraying the crowds with chemical agents that has resulted in death a few days later.
Do you think people who are outraged at the behavior of terrorists leading the country will be mollified when they learn of how they slaughtered their own people? Likewise with Israel and the US, do you really want a neighbor who is threatening to kill you and it turns out he is a serial killer? This is not over, not yet. And everyone knows there is only one way that this can end.
Yes, that is all true, but if there were not fires to put out all over the globe at the same time they wouldn't have pulled the carrier group from the Mid East.
I don't watch much MSM news.
3. That's not the way the Iranians see it
4. They've started, or are starting, a nationwide intranet. Outside is still cut off
5. Iran is under sanctions because Israel and the US want to destroy it like the other countries they have, eg Libya, Syria, etc
6.That will just push Russia, China and Iran closer together and will send a warning to the rest of the world that the US can't be trusted. That game can only last for so long.
7. Iran is dismantling all of that. Something like 50,000-60,000 guns were intercepted in one of their ports. Many of the bad actors have been arrested. Israel will be in a worse position after this.
8. Coroners have reported that a lot of people were killed by snipers on rooftops. I guess they can tell that from the bullet wounds. That's a repeat of what they did in the Ukrainian coup in 2014. Brought in Georgian snipers. and then blamed it on the gov't
Well I guess if ya'll didn't follow ZNP's excellent prelude topic, here's a lil summary to catch ya'll up to speed.
All the more reason to ask the Secretary of Defense why everything we're doing is as if we not monitoring the events unfolding in Iran and had no idea an protest/uprising was about to begin far enough in advance that it left us reacting after the fact . If the everyday citizens in Iran organized it on SM how in the world did the DOD not know it was happening is spooky to think about.
Protesters seize Iran’s state television in Isfahan, break into the building
It is debatable if the 25% tariff on those who help Iran avoid sanctions is "substantial". Fair enough. But grabbing Maduro and seizing 6 tankers that is substantial. Also sending the carrier group to the Mid East, either that is a bluff and Trump doesn't bluff, or we need to wait to see what will come of that. So as far as military response it is too early to judge. Also, Trump is the same one that hit the Iranian nuclear program with our MOAB's. That also is substantial.
Also, it is reasonable to look at Yemen, Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas as proxies for Iran, all of which the US has backed Israel in destroying and sending Syrian leader packing.
As for "backpedaling" we saw this prior to the attack on the nuclear sites. You don't want to telegraph your moves and so Trump is all over the place in his public statements, during war that is simply to confuse your plans so the enemy cannot know what you are going to do.
As for Iranians "going home". What is there to go home to? The protested because they could not afford food and the situation is worse now than before. They protested because there was no water and the situation is worse now than before. They protested because the rulers were evil tyrants and do you think that after killing tens of thousands people are going to decide they aren't that bad after all?
Do not judge before the time, it is still too early to judge what Trump is going to do or what the Iranian people are going to do.
Have more faith, Trump was going to do it the other day but Israel actually asked him to postpone. If Trump takes his genuine strike two and a TACO it's the Jews' fault and that's the truth. However I think Isaac isn't trying to troll US or set up Trump and get him to chicken out. I think ZNP is more correct about making it a real bigger show. Not just in terms of firepower,, but think about sustainability. We could've precision stroked Khamenei alone into the grave literally any hour we choose. However now we really can clean the whole secular and spiritual structure of this evil cult out. The cult must die obviously, but also note the IRGC and the illegitimate government including sensetive ministers are directly responsible for the massacre and/or some even participated in it in the videos coming out now thanks to valiant Elon Musk's Starlink. To level the playing field is to cut the grass, mow the whole cult down. Praise Jesus!
I agree. If you look at the war with Hamas, Hezbollah and Yemen it has destroyed the proxies of Iran. But what is the point if we don't ultimately go to Iran. These protests and the people slaughtered by the regime gives a justification to go. The hearing in the UN makes a case on public. But ever since 2023 this has to have been the ultimate goal.
My understanding is that the empire that will be the eighth from the seven is the Islamic empire, they will be here when Antichrist is ruling. It is no accident that their flags are all red, black and green, nor is it an accident that they behead "infidels".
But what I didn't get for years is that the trigger that causes the entire melt down of the Antichrist kingdom is not that Satan is winning but that he is losing. The seven year tribulation begins with Satan and fallen angels being kicked out of heaven to earth, they have been exposed, they have been kicked out, and so this is their last stand.
The Euphrates drying up to make way for the armies from the east, that doesn't simply refer to the river, or to the lack of water in Iraq or Iran, it refers to the Iraq and Iran as powers drying up.
So no, I don't think that the Islamic extremists have been destroyed yet, but the process of their destruction has begun and in seven years they will be destroyed.