Revelation 17:8

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Deade

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Then Rev. 17:8 would have to be written after it was destroyed in ad70 because it is in the pit at that time and would afterwards ascend out of it.
Rev 17:8:
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
The beast = Roman Empire (received a wound to the head and lived again)
The whore = The Roman Catholic Church


ECC will be the beast that rises from the sea (people) and will have Germany as the head. They will be a nuclear power this time. There will be no visible demons; they are now invisible and will stay that way. They will drive the world system into a mode of self destruction that only God can stop. :)
 

Locutus

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The beast = Roman Empire (received a wound to the head and lived again)
The whore = The Roman Catholic Church
Is this from John Gill igan's Island?

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iamsoandso

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Oops, my bad, 1st century Jerusalem.

Then yes I began the thread to see others opinions of who was in the abyss then and see if there is another option. I don't see the Jews worshiping Caesar as God but instead they were impious and revolted(Jewish revolt), Egypt,Assyria, Babylon,Medea Persia,Greece Rome ect. were all still then present so who received the wound an was healed? I'll stop here and see what they say...
 

iamsoandso

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The beast = Roman Empire (received a wound to the head and lived again)
The whore = The Roman Catholic Church


ECC will be the beast that rises from the sea (people) and will have Germany as the head. They will be a nuclear power this time. There will be no visible demons; they are now invisible and will stay that way. They will drive the world system into a mode of self destruction that only God can stop. :)

I just cant see Rome as having received a deadly wound and being in the abyss when Rev.17:8 was written they were in power at that time(no offense).
 

Locutus

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Then yes I began the thread to see others opinions of who was in the abyss then and see if there is another option. I don't see the Jews worshiping Caesar as God but instead they were impious and revolted(Jewish revolt), Egypt,Assyria, Babylon,Medea Persia,Greece Rome ect. were all still then present so who received the wound an was healed? I'll stop here and see what they say...
What I think you are saying bro is the the temple cult/1st century Jerusalem was the beast that was worshiped, it was wounded in the war of 66-70 AD and then healed forming the new Israel of "today".
 

Deade

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I just cant see Rome as having received a deadly wound and being in the abyss when Rev.17:8 was written they were in power at that time(no offense).
You must realize that Rev. 17 was a projection into a future time. The abyss is just figurative of obscurity and not a literal place. The locusts from the abyss will not be physical demons as some project, they are and always will be spirits. We need to see the symbolism of the language of Revelation. :cool:
 

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You certainly show NO aptitude for interpreting last day prophetic truth, you certainly have done no praying or studying on it!

Your interpretation is coloured by sectarianism!

For those interested you can find a bit of a study Here on the identity of The Woman in Rev 17. (Rev 17v18)
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