Replacement theology? Yes or No.

[Gideon300]

The preacher is Dr James Tour. He is a brilliant scientist, a fervent evangelist and knowledgeable about Israel's place in God's plan and purpose. It is quite long, but well worth hearing. Replacement people don't listen. You will have to change your minds if you do.

 

[Lovette]

Hell no. Israel as God's chosen people is irreplaceable. The Gentile church as we know it is grafted into the commonwealth of Israel, access to God is extended to us Gentiles through Jesus, by no means is that a replacement of the original Israel. Gentiles are specifically warned in Rom. 11:19-21 on this.

For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them. For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you.

You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.” Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either. (Rom. 11:13-21)

 

[Gideon300]

Hell no. Israel as God's chosen people is irreplaceable. The Gentile church as we know it is grafted into the commonwealth of Israel, access to God is extended to us Gentiles through Jesus, by no means is that a replacement of the original Israel. Gentiles are specifically warned in Rom. 11:19-21 on this.

For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them. For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you.

You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.” Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either. (Rom. 11:13-21)

Glad you agree. Not all do, and nothing seems to get through to them.

 

[Lovette]

Glad you agree. Not all do, and nothing seems to get through to them.

I'd rather believe Anglo-Israelism, that today's english speaking nations are the descendants of Ephraim and Manasseh, than "replacement theory", which is pure anti-semetism.

 

[HeIsHere]

There is one olive tree, still growing.
One covenant people, expanded and fulfilled in Christ.
One plan of redemption unfolding through history.
God has not abandoned Israel.
God has not replaced Israel.
God has fulfilled His promises in Christ and is still grafting in branches from every nation.
The olive tree is alive.
The root still nourishes.
And the plan has never changed.

— Be A Berean Believer
Series

Link

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Hell no. Israel as God's chosen people is irreplaceable. The Gentile church as we know it is grafted into the commonwealth of Israel, access to God is extended to us Gentiles through Jesus, by no means is that a replacement of the original Israel. Gentiles are specifically warned in Rom. 11:19-21 on this.

For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them. For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you.

You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.” Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either. (Rom. 11:13-21)

Also consider this part

“Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God:

but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭9:6-8‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:27-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

flesh and blood doesn’t make anyone an Israelite accepting Jesus Christ makes one a child of Abraham and hiers of the promise made to Abraham the father of many nations in Christ

 

[Undergrace1]

Also consider this part

“Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God:

but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭9:6-8‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:27-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

flesh and blood doesn’t make anyone an Israelite accepting Jesus Christ makes one a child of Abraham and hiers of the promise made to Abraham the father of many nations in Christ

But if God, at a time still to come, as part of His plan, chooses to bring physical Israelites en masse to His son, and to baptise them in Christ, who is to say he would be wrong to do it? He is God Almighty and may do as He wishes

 

[HeIsHere]

But if God, at a time still to come, as part of His plan, chooses to bring physical Israelites en masse to His son, and to baptise them in Christ, who is to say he would be wrong to do it? He is God Almighty and may do as He wishes

God does not force "belief" on people.

 

[Undergrace1]

God does not force "belief" on people.

Again the word of the Lord came to me: 17 “Son of man, when the people of Israel were living in their own land, they defiled it by their conduct and their actions. Their conduct was like a woman’s monthly uncleanness in my sight. 18 So I poured out my wrath on them because they had shed blood in the land and because they had defiled it with their idols. 19 I dispersed them among the nations, and they were scattered through the countries; I judged them according to their conduct and their actions. 20 And wherever they went among the nations they profaned my holy name, for it was said of them, ‘These are the Lord’s people, and yet they had to leave his land.’ 21 I had concern for my holy name, which the people of Israel profaned among the nations where they had gone.

22 “Therefore say to the Israelites, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: It is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. 23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.

24 “‘For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. 28 Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God

Ezekiel36:16-28

 

[Eli1]

God does not force "belief" on people.

This posted by @wattie answers why a person who sins is still saved.

"The spirit is indwelled with the Holy Spirit. From this point, the spirit never sins, but the flesh nature, being human, does."


The Holy Spirit dwelling in the spirit of a person cannot sin, this is what John is explaining in his letter,

oonga boonga


Do you even know what you say half the time lady?

 

[Slimsumo]

Yes and no is the correct answer.

In the parable Jesus gives, the jewish priesthood is indeed replaced by others producing the fruit. However, this is not a permanent situation as we know from prophecy that the Jews will return to God in the last times, at which point they will be grafted back in.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

But if God, at a time still to come, as part of His plan, chooses to bring physical Israelites en masse to His son, and to baptise them in Christ, who is to say he would be wrong to do it? He is God Almighty and may do as He wishes

Yes anything God chose to or planned to do from the beginning is not for me to say he’s wrong ….. I’d never say god was wrong for any part of his plan. I personally just don’t believe that’s what he said like even just the one example there it’s telling us that being born a physical israelite doesn’t make you an isralite , but rather those who are born again by the promise of Christ and the gospel are who are counted for the seed.. not the physical or flesh and blood , but to receive the spirit of Christ ehonis the one seed of promise and hier of Abraham.


If an Israelite rejects Jesus they are
No different from a gentile who rejects Jesus . And if a gentile accepts Jesus they are the same fanily and blood through his blood and not thiers flesh and blood but his flesh and blood

“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

….For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, ( physical flesh and blood no longer matters ) there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. ( Abraham’s one seed of promise ) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:16, 27-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if a Jew rejects Jesus or gentile rejects Jesus there’s no difference because thier flesh and blood doesn’t make them different but the same all are under sin israel as well as gentile . They aren’t special because of who thier owrents are anymore no one is. We’re all equal in his sight now

“But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:11-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s faith in Christ alone that makes anyone an hier of the promises he made to Abraham.

this wasn’t the case in the ot but because they broke thier covenant he made a new covenant in Christ with any of those of Israel who believed then now or forever the gospel . As well as and together with any gentile who believed then now or forever.

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭4:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Notice Jesus spoke also of this prophecy regarding the stone the builders rejected ? He says this when he’s telling isreel

“Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, The same is become the head of the corner: This is the Lord's doing, And it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭21:42-43‬ ‭KJV‬


There’s nothing wrong with being an Israelite by the flesh or being a gentile by the flesh we’re all corrupted and sinners alike . Pop He chose to offer mercy to all mankind through Christ and the gospel israel had a different covenant beforehand according to thier flesh and blood and thier own righteousness it didn’t work out so he made a new one and made it with everyone

flesh and blood or nationality is no longer how gods people are identified

 

[HeIsHere]

Again the word of the Lord came to me: 17 “Son of man, when the people of Israel were living in their own land, they defiled it by their conduct and their actions. Their conduct was like a woman’s monthly uncleanness in my sight. 18 So I poured out my wrath on them because they had shed blood in the land and because they had defiled it with their idols. 19 I dispersed them among the nations, and they were scattered through the countries; I judged them according to their conduct and their actions. 20 And wherever they went among the nations they profaned my holy name, for it was said of them, ‘These are the Lord’s people, and yet they had to leave his land.’ 21 I had concern for my holy name, which the people of Israel profaned among the nations where they had gone.

22 “Therefore say to the Israelites, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: It is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. 23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.

24 “‘For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. 28 Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God

Ezekiel36:16-28

Already happened, this is in regards to the Babylonian captivity.

 

[HeIsHere]

Yes anything God chose to or planned to do from the beginning is not for me to say he’s wrong ….. I’d never say god was wrong for any part of his plan. I personally just don’t believe that’s what he said like even just the one example there it’s telling us that being born a physical israelite doesn’t make you an isralite , but rather those who are born again by the promise of Christ and the gospel are who are counted for the seed.. not the physical or flesh and blood , but to receive the spirit of Christ ehonis the one seed of promise and hier of Abraham.


If an Israelite rejects Jesus they are
No different from a gentile who rejects Jesus . And if a gentile accepts Jesus they are the same fanily and blood through his blood and not thiers flesh and blood but his flesh and blood

“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

….For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, ( physical flesh and blood no longer matters ) there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. ( Abraham’s one seed of promise ) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:16, 27-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if a Jew rejects Jesus or gentile rejects Jesus there’s no difference because thier flesh and blood doesn’t make them different but the same all are under sin israel as well as gentile . They aren’t special because of who thier owrents are anymore no one is. We’re all equal in his sight now

“But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:11-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s faith in Christ alone that makes anyone an hier of the promises he made to Abraham.

this wasn’t the case in the ot but because they broke thier covenant he made a new covenant in Christ with any of those of Israel who believed then now or forever the gospel . As well as and together with any gentile who believed then now or forever.

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭4:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Notice Jesus spoke also of this prophecy regarding the stone the builders rejected ? He says this when he’s telling isreel

“Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, The same is become the head of the corner: This is the Lord's doing, And it is marvelous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭21:42-43‬ ‭KJV‬


There’s nothing wrong with being an Israelite by the flesh or being a gentile by the flesh we’re all corrupted and sinners alike . Pop He chose to offer mercy to all mankind through Christ and the gospel israel had a different covenant beforehand according to their flesh and blood and their own righteousness it didn’t work out so he made a new one and made it with everyone

flesh and blood or nationality is no longer how gods people are identified

Oh well you can write it a million times, falls on deaf ears as they say.

Sadly, dispensationalism undermines the finality of the New Covenant and reintroduces ethnic distinction into redemptive identity not found in scripture.

In Ephesians 2, Paul plainly teaches that Christ Jesus abolished the hostility by creating one new man in Himself.

Any future redemptive program in which God deals with Israel as Israel necessarily reintroduces the very hostility Christ destroyed.

To erect once again the ethnic distinction as meaningful, as still part of the covenant is to undo/deny the gospel itself.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Already happened, this is in regards to the Babylonian captivity.

Amen also in the gospel

This came first to gather israel for the new heaven and earth

“And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭4:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭9:35‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭10:5-6, 14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬


But after he was rejected by Israel and crucified and raised up it’s no longer just Israel that’s meant to hear and believe the gospel but rather this would begin to take place

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭

now Jesus is telling them different to preach to anyone end everyone everywhere to fulfill this

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Israel’s promised land in Christ isnt on this earth

“These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:13-14, 16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

were being gathered by the gospel for this promised land not the present world

“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

( but hiers of the promise in Christ )

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:7, 10, 13‬ ‭KJV‬‬


The New Testament has a new promised land

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Oh well you can write it a million times, falls on deaf ears as they say.

Sadly, dispensationalism undermines the finality of the New Covenant and reintroduces ethnic distinction into redemptive identity not found in scripture.

In Ephesians 2, Paul plainly teaches that Christ Jesus abolished the hostility by creating one new man in Himself.

Any future redemptive program in which God deals with Israel as Israel necessarily reintroduces the very hostility Christ destroyed.

To erect once again the ethnic distinction as meaningful, as still part of the covenant is to undo/deny the gospel itself.

It’s strange no one connects being “ born again “ to becoming a new person with a new identity in Gods sight no longer “ gentile or Jew “ but rather the children of the living God born anew in Christ Jesus

No one seems to think about the language Paul uses so often and connect it to that New creation in Christ Jesus you’re referring to

the old has to be left behind in order for the new to emerge it’s the old testament that blinds to the new

 

[HeIsHere]

The New Testament has a new promised land

Amen, I notice how the OT seems to be their primary source material as thought the NT as nothing to say about it.

I am so very thankful you come around from time to time, it just to good to know not everyone is captured by this false view.

 

[Undergrace1]

Already happened, this is in regards to the Babylonian captivity.

Really?
‘For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. 28 Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God

 

[HeIsHere]

Really?
‘For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. 28 Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God

Yes really.

 

[Undergrace1]

Yes anything God chose to or planned to do from the beginning is not for me to say he’s wrong ….. I’d never say god was wrong for any part of his plan. I personally just don’t believe that’s what he said like even just the one example there it’s telling us that being born a physical israelite doesn’t make you an isralite , but rather those who are born again by the promise of Christ and the gospel are who are counted for the seed.. not the physical or flesh and blood , but to receive the spirit of Christ ehonis the one seed of promise and hier of Abraham.


If an Israelite rejects Jesus they are
No different from a gentile who rejects Jesus . And if a gentile accepts Jesus they are the same fanily and blood through his blood and not thiers flesh and blood but his flesh and blood

“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

….For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, ( physical flesh and blood no longer matters ) there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. ( Abraham’s one seed of promise ) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:16, 27-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if a Jew rejects Jesus or gentile rejects Jesus there’s no difference because thier flesh and blood doesn’t make them different but the same all are under sin israel as well as gentile . They aren’t special because of who thier owrents are anymore no one is. We’re all equal in his sight now

“But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:11-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s faith in Christ alone that makes anyone an hier of the promises he made to Abraham.

this wasn’t the case in the ot but because they broke thier covenant he made a new covenant in Christ with any of those of Israel who believed then now or forever the gospel . As well as and together with any gentile who believed then now or forever.

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭4:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Notice Jesus spoke also of this prophecy regarding the stone the builders rejected ? He says this when he’s telling isreel

“Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, The same is become the head of the corner: This is the Lord's doing, And it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭21:42-43‬ ‭KJV‬


There’s nothing wrong with being an Israelite by the flesh or being a gentile by the flesh we’re all corrupted and sinners alike . Pop He chose to offer mercy to all mankind through Christ and the gospel israel had a different covenant beforehand according to thier flesh and blood and thier own righteousness it didn’t work out so he made a new one and made it with everyone

flesh and blood or nationality is no longer how gods people are identified

A prophecy: The word of the Lord concerning Israel.

The Lord, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the human spirit within a person, declares: 2 “I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. 3 On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves. 4 On that day I will strike every horse with panic and its rider with madness,” declares the Lord. “I will keep a watchful eye over Judah, but I will blind all the horses of the nations. 5 Then the clans of Judah will say in their hearts, ‘The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God.’

6 “On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a firepot in a woodpile, like a flaming torch among sheaves. They will consume all the surrounding peoples right and left, but Jerusalem will remain intact in her place.

7 “The Lord will save the dwellings of Judah first, so that the honor of the house of David and of Jerusalem’s inhabitants may not be greater than that of Judah. 8 On that day the Lord will shield those who live in Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the angel of the Lord going before them. 9 On that day I will set out to destroy all the nations that attack Jerusalem.

Mourning for the One They Pierced
10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit[a] of grace and supplication. They will look on[b] me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. 11 On that day the weeping in Jerusalem will be as great as the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12 The land will mourn, each clan by itself, with their wives by themselves: the clan of the house of David and their wives, the clan of the house of Nathan and their wives, 13 the clan of the house of Levi and their wives, the clan of Shimei and their wives, 14 and all the rest of the clans and their wives.
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