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Question #1: Are there other earths with human life on them?
No, there are not, and such is provable from scripture if we begin by properly defining some of the words in your question.

Bear with me a minute.

We know that Jesus Christ created everything.

Jhn 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jhn 1:2
The same was in the beginning with God.

Jhn 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

We also have the creation account to consider.

Gen 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

In the original Hebrew text, the word for heaven, šāmayim, is plural, and the word for earth, 'ereṣ, is singular. In other words, the Bible only speaks of one earth, and not of any other earths that you mentioned in your question.

Additionally, the word human means of or belonging to man.

https://symbolgenie.com/origin-of-the-word-human/

With this in mind, we need to recognize that the Bible calls Adam the first man.

1Co 15:45
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

1Co 15:46
Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

1Co 15:47
The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

1Co 15:48mea
As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

1Co 15:49
And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

Seeing how the word human means of or pertaining to man, and seeing how Adam was the first man, there could not have been any other men before him. Not only this, but this first man was of the earth, earthy, and, as I already noted, the Bible only speaks of one earth, and not of any other earths.

Furthermore, Jesus is not only called the last Adam, but he is also called the second man.

Since Jesus is the last Adam, no other Adams could have come after him.

It is important to note that the name Adam not only means man or human, but it is also etymologically linked to adamah which means ground or earth.

https://bibledictionarytoday.com/biblical-names/adam/

Finally, since Jesus is the second man, no other humans or men could have been created between the timeframe of Adam's creation and Christ's incarnation or else Jesus could not rightly be called the second man.

We all die in the first man or as a result of Adam's transgression, and we can all be made alive in the second man or in the last Adam.
 
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Question #3: How can we say that answering questions with logical answers is Bible-based?
If we begin with a proper understanding of the word logic, then we should really be asking ourselves how one could possibly say that answering questions with logical answers is not Bible-based.

The word logic is derived from the Greek word logos.

https://etymologyworld.com/item/logic

Seeing how Jesus is called the Word or the logos in scripture, there is a direct correlation between logical answers and the Bible.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/1/1/p0/t_conc_998001
 

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No, there are not, and such is provable from scripture if we begin by properly defining some of the words in your question.

Bear with me a minute.

We know that Jesus Christ created everything.

Jhn 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jhn 1:2
The same was in the beginning with God.

Jhn 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

We also have the creation account to consider.

Gen 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

In the original Hebrew text, the word for heaven, šāmayim, is plural, and the word for earth, 'ereṣ, is singular. In other words, the Bible only speaks of one earth, and not of any other earths that you mentioned in your question.

Additionally, the word human means of or belonging to man.

https://symbolgenie.com/origin-of-the-word-human/

With this in mind, we need to recognize that the Bible calls Adam the first man.

1Co 15:45
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

1Co 15:46
Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

1Co 15:47
The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

1Co 15:48mea
As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

1Co 15:49
And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

Seeing how the word human means of or pertaining to man, and seeing how Adam was the first man, there could not have been any other men before him. Not only this, but this first man was of the earth, earthy, and, as I already noted, the Bible only speaks of one earth, and not of any other earths.

Furthermore, Jesus is not only called the last Adam, but he is also called the second man.

Since Jesus is the last Adam, no other Adams could have come after him.

It is important to note that the name Adam not only means man or human, but it is also etymologically linked to adamah which means ground or earth.

https://bibledictionarytoday.com/biblical-names/adam/

Finally, since Jesus is the second man, no other humans or men could have been created between the timeframe of Adam's creation and Christ's incarnation or else Jesus could not rightly be called the second man.

We all die in the first man or as a result of Adam's transgression, and we can all be made alive in the second man or in the last Adam.
I tend to agree with you, but asked the question on behalf of those who believe in extraterrestrial UFOs.
 

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If we begin with a proper understanding of the word logic, then we should really be asking ourselves how one could possibly say that answering questions with logical answers is not Bible-based.

The word logic is derived from the Greek word logos.

https://etymologyworld.com/item/logic

Seeing how Jesus is called the Word or the logos in scripture, there is a direct correlation between logical answers and the Bible.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/1/1/p0/t_conc_998001
I like your right reasoning!
 
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I tend to agree with you, but asked the question on behalf of those who believe in extraterrestrial UFOs.
I don't want to sound like a broken record, but words have meanings, and if we properly understand those meanings, then it becomes a lot easier to answer questions pertaining to them.

If you study the origin of the English word terrestrial, then you will come to recognize that it is derived from the Latin word terra which means earth. English words like terrain and territory are also derived from this same Latin word. Having this understanding, one should understand why the English word extraterrestrial means originating, located, or occurring outside of Earth or its atmosphere.

Turning back to your original question, you asked:
Question #1: Are there other earths with human life on them?
As I noted in my previous response, the Bible only speaks of one earth, and not of other earths.

As I also previously pointed out, Adam's name is etymologically linked to the Hebrew word adamah which means ground or earth. He is also called the first Adam, which forbids any Adams being formed or created before him, and Jesus Christ is the last Adam and the second man, so no other Adams could have been formed or created after him, and no other men could have been formed or created elsewhere between the time frame of the first man or the first Adam and him. I trust that you understand my deductive reasoning here.

At the same time, however, the Bible does speak of non-human beings or of either holy angels or fallen angels. With this in mind, it is quite possible that at least some of those who claim to have experienced alien encounters have had encounters with angelic beings, or have had encounters with extraterrestrial beings which have originated outside of Earth or its atmosphere, or have had encounters with angelic beings which are normally located outside of Earth or its atmosphere.

I am not trying to nit-pick in my responses to you, but you did ask about other earths with human life on them in your original question, and the Bible, if properly understood, plainly refutes such a notion.
 

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I don't want to sound like a broken record, but words have meanings, and if we properly understand those meanings, then it becomes a lot easier to answer questions pertaining to them.

If you study the origin of the English word terrestrial, then you will come to recognize that it is derived from the Latin word terra which means earth. English words like terrain and territory are also derived from this same Latin word. Having this understanding, one should understand why the English word extraterrestrial means originating, located, or occurring outside of Earth or its atmosphere.

Turning back to your original question, you asked:

As I noted in my previous response, the Bible only speaks of one earth, and not of other earths.

As I also previously pointed out, Adam's name is etymologically linked to the Hebrew word adamah which means ground or earth. He is also called the first Adam, which forbids any Adams being formed or created before him, and Jesus Christ is the last Adam and the second man, so no other Adams could have been formed or created after him, and no other men could have been formed or created elsewhere between the time frame of the first man or the first Adam and him. I trust that you understand my deductive reasoning here.

At the same time, however, the Bible does speak of non-human beings or of either holy angels or fallen angels. With this in mind, it is quite possible that at least some of those who claim to have experienced alien encounters have had encounters with angelic beings, or have had encounters with extraterrestrial beings which have originated outside of Earth or its atmosphere, or have had encounters with angelic beings which are normally located outside of Earth or its atmosphere.

I am not trying to nit-pick in my responses to you, but you did ask about other earths with human life on them in your original question, and the Bible, if properly understood, plainly refutes such a notion.
Okay, but I have to say that you ARE nitpicking, because I said:

I tend to agree with you, but asked the question on behalf of those who believe in extraterrestrial UFOs.

and

I like your right reasoning!

And now I agree with what you just said and admit that I find angelology vague and confusing.
 
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Okay, but I have to say that you ARE nitpicking, because I said:

I tend to agree with you, but asked the question on behalf of those who believe in extraterrestrial UFOs.

and

I like your right reasoning!

And now I agree with what you just said and admit that I find angelology vague and confusing.
It sincerely was not my desire to nit-pick, so I am sorry if it appeared to be otherwise. I was merely seeking to answer your question in line with the terminology that you used. Also, it was not my intention to sound as if we are at odds in our beliefs because I did read and understand your replies that what I had written.

What is it about angelology that you find vague and confusing?
 

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In fact, I will make that my next RQ: What is the biblical doctrine of angelology? Does God need them? Did He just want Satan to have a few friends or what?
 
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In fact, I will make that my next RQ: What is the biblical doctrine of angelology? Does God need them? Did He just want Satan to have a few friends or what?
Part of the answer to these questions is found here:

Heb 1:7
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

Also here:

Heb 1:13
But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Heb 1:14
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

According to this writer, angels are ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation," and he was referring to the following when he wrote this.

Psa 104:4
Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:

Angels have other functions as well.
 

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Part of the answer to these questions is found here:

Heb 1:7
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

Also here:

Heb 1:13
But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Heb 1:14
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

According to this writer, angels are ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation," and he was referring to the following when he wrote this.

Psa 104:4
Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:

Angels have other functions as well.
Thanks for citing those passages, but for me they raise more questions than they answer:

HB 1:7/PS 104:4 - What ministry do angelic spirits have? If it is for those who are saved per HB 1:13-14, then what ministry do they do for those who are saved?

And was their ministry done by Satan before he fell?
 

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I had introduced the random question "for what historical event do you wish we could have a mulligan?", and I began with the Korean War. Now let us consider WWII.
I know I'm jumping in late here, but how about a do-over on Adam, Eve, and the serpent. ;)
 

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I know I'm jumping in late here, but how about a do-over on Adam, Eve, and the serpent. ;)
Yes, and the angelic serpent's fall?! (2PT 2:4, JUDE 6, LK 10:18, RV 9:1, 12:3-9, cf. EZK 28:11-19)
 

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Part of the answer to these questions is found here:

KTR,

Again I understand from the passages you cited (HB 1:7/PS 104:4, HB 1:13-14) that the angels are ministering spirits, but then the question becomes, "what ministry do angels have for those who are saved? What other functions do they have? Does God need them to do these things? And how do Satan and evil angels fit into the scheme?
 

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Next RQ: Why do we know that dropping the atomic bomb on Hiroshima was the right/moral decision?
 

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Next RQ: Why do we know that dropping the atomic bomb on Hiroshima was the right/moral decision?
Time's up! My answer is: Because the first bomb did not prompt surrender; a second bomb on Nagasaki was required. Also, using only conventional weapons to prep an invasion of Japan would have cost more lives (especially American) than the A-bombs did.
 

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Question #3: How can we say that answering questions with logical answers is Bible-based?

Biblical passages that seem to support the view that human logic is a divine gift include the following:

“Come now, let us reason together,” says the Lord. (IS 1:18a)
“They hated me without reason.” (JN 15:25)
“So [Paul] reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and the God-fearing Greeks, as well as in the marketplace day by day with those who happened to be there.” (ACTS 17:17)
“We do, however, speak a message of wisdom [right reasoning] among the mature…” (1CR 2:6)
“When I was a child… I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.” (1CR 13:11)
“Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.” (1PT 3:15b)

These passages indicate that we should think and attempt to learn the best beliefs/opinions or solutions regarding issues, beginning with revealed Scripture and continuing with right logic when helpful.

Your answer?...
Logic and reason are fallible. Spiritual things are spiritually understood. The mind is not meant to be the master but rather the servant.

God reveals truth by His Spirit. The function of the mind is to take what is revealed in the human spirit and make it comprehensible to us and to others. If you doubt this, consider how many different interpretations of God's word there are. The finest minds can take a passage of scripture and come to different conclusions. In reality, there is one truth.

What God asks of us is that we seek to have our minds renewed. This happens as we "reprogram" our minds with the Word of God. A simple example: many Christians do not know the depths of God's love. Many of us were taught, me included, that God was the God of wrath and judgement. I took my understanding from my father's attitude to God. I had to to learn that my thoughts were not God's. (Isaiah 55:8). Then I had to accept that I was wrong and God was right. It did not happen overnight!
 

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Logic and reason are fallible. Spiritual things are spiritually understood. The mind is not meant to be the master but rather the servant.

God reveals truth by His Spirit. The function of the mind is to take what is revealed in the human spirit and make it comprehensible to us and to others. If you doubt this, consider how many different interpretations of God's word there are. The finest minds can take a passage of scripture and come to different conclusions. In reality, there is one truth.

What God asks of us is that we seek to have our minds renewed. This happens as we "reprogram" our minds with the Word of God. A simple example: many Christians do not know the depths of God's love. Many of us were taught, me included, that God was the God of wrath and judgement. I took my understanding from my father's attitude to God. I had to to learn that my thoughts were not God's. (Isaiah 55:8). Then I had to accept that I was wrong and God was right. It did not happen overnight!
Yes, logic and reason are fallible. So is our spiritually understood understanding of spiritual things.

Yes, the mind and every other part of us are not meant to be the master but rather the servant of God/GW.

Yes, God reveals truth by His Spirit via the function of the mind taking what is revealed in the human spirit and making it comprehensible to us and to others.

Yes, there are many different interpretations of GW, because the finest minds can take a passage of scripture and come to different conclusions, although in reality there is one truth.

Yes, what God asks of us is that we seek to have our minds renewed as we "reprogram" our minds with the Word of God, especially the depths of God's love.

Yes, many are taught that God is the God of wrath and judgement, so we need to learn what that means consistent with God being the God of love and justice.

Yes, our misperceptions of our heavenly Father may be because of the imperfections of our earthy fathers.

Yes, we have to learn that our thoughts may not be God's, because we are not infallible, no matter how disconcerting that goad may be. We must have humility/be teachable and be content to walk by faith rather than claim certainty.
 

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Next RQ:

What is the meaning of heretic?
 

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Yes, logic and reason are fallible. So is our spiritually understood understanding of spiritual things.

Yes, the mind and every other part of us are not meant to be the master but rather the servant of God/GW.

Yes, God reveals truth by His Spirit via the function of the mind taking what is revealed in the human spirit and making it comprehensible to us and to others.

Yes, there are many different interpretations of GW, because the finest minds can take a passage of scripture and come to different conclusions, although in reality there is one truth.

Yes, what God asks of us is that we seek to have our minds renewed as we "reprogram" our minds with the Word of God, especially the depths of God's love.

Yes, many are taught that God is the God of wrath and judgement, so we need to learn what that means consistent with God being the God of love and justice.

Yes, our misperceptions of our heavenly Father may be because of the imperfections of our earthy fathers.

Yes, we have to learn that our thoughts may not be God's, because we are not infallible, no matter how disconcerting that goad may be. We must have humility/be teachable and be content to walk by faith rather than claim certainty.
The spirit of man cannot be wrong. It is the part of us taught by God. Our spirit may not know everything as we need to be taught by God. The problems arise when we rely on our natural man to interpret things.

The spirit man in us us the part that is born again. Whatever is born of God does not sin. A number of translations of 1 John 5:18 say that those born of God do not not habitually sin or something to that effect. The word "habitually" does not appear in the text. Translators suppose that it is implied. I do not agree.

When we are born again, we are spiritual infants. We know very little except the truth that led us to accept Christ in the first place. Spiritual maturity comes from the word of God being implanted in our spirit man. We then learn to live according to what we know in the spirit.

Our unrenewed minds argue with what we know in our spirit man. We have to learn, usually by experiences, that God's way is higher than ours. I've had 50 plus years of those kinds of dealings, usually a result my own self will. I still make mistakes from time to time, but nothing like when I first started my journey in Christ. My mentor of 30 years told me that the Christian life gets easier as we learn to cooperate. At the time, that seemed silly. I discovered that circumstances may not get easier, but we are better equipped to overcome. God uses all our trials to bless and refine us. There are many things I wish I could have avoided. But I also say to myself, if that is what it took to get me to where I am now, it was worth it all.