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Okay for those that see we are first born dead to God, just as the first Adam.
Then we each need Life right? Which life, in Spirit and truth of God or just in the flesh nature? No need for anything more than now?
Thanks for all the answers if anyone answers this be my survey of what is happening today
Of course not. That is why the Lord Jesus Christ declared "Ye must be born again". This is a spiritual matter and it is supernatural.
Adam and Eve were made knowing God and when they ate off the forbidden tree then all their offspring was born with a choice.
So humans are born not knowing God so we are not born alive to Him until we make the choice to acknowledge the truth.
Because we are born with a choice and not knowing God we will sin before we do right and follow God.
So when we are born we are born after the similitude of Adam until we are born again of the Spirit.
Thus the reason He created man and woman. For the purpose of procreation. Now, in today's world, there are those who will find numerous ways to impregnate a woman, but that is not how God intended procreation to act.
Ephesians, Chapter 5:
31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
No person is born a believer in God or Jesus, nor does sprinkling a baby make one a saved believer.
Romans, Chapter 10:
9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
One of the besties I ran around with as a teen ended up as my neighbor when we were raising our children and a group of us often met and chatted while our children played together so we all were comfortable going in to get a little something done while the other remained and kept watch. During one of these times, my bestie's daughter, who was one of the cutest dishwater blondes in ponytails about 5yo or so, approached me and took the opportunity of alone time to inquire of me, "how did God make us?" And I was so filled with joy at that moment to realize her interest in the relation between He and us I didn't want to miss the opportunity to assure her that He Is so I quickly answered, as surely and confidently as I could, "with His hands." And she seems totally satisfied with that answer, said nothing more and continued to play. Was she spiritually dead? I'm not sure about that. But maybe, rather, a spirit in prison wondering as John had inquired, "are you the one who is to come?"
This little girl did a lot to build up my insecurities though, noticing that I looked like Pocahontas and telling her mother that, "when I grow up, I want to be Chinese."
This little girl did a lot to build up my insecurities though, noticing that I looked like Pocahontas and telling her mother that, "when I grow up, I want to be Chinese."
No, we are not.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
John 3:6-7 (KJV)
(Read the whole passage; John chapter 3).
Reading Acts 5 at the end of Acts 5, about the disciples being told not to preach the risen Son.
29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. 30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. 31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. 32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
33 When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them.
34 Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; 35 and said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men. 36 For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought. 37 After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.
38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: 39 but if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it;
To this day, God in Son as risen has not gotten overthrown has it?
Amazing grace given to abide in thanksgiving and praise, even though I do not ever deserve to have ever been given it, nor anyone else either, imop
First born of flesh, then born of Spirit. John3:6 after verse 5 to let Nicodemus know, first birth is s dead and needs new life in god's Spirit and truth, thank you for this truth spoken through you by God for you too
Adam and Eve had the ability to choose either good or evil. Since the fall, man has lost the ability to do good! His thoughts are evil only!
I see this, choosing, not evil only. For all after Adam the first are first born in the knowledge of good (God) and Evil, the first born flesh in need of new life ever since Adam the first failed in unbelief to God. that has gotten ransacked by religion, the people trying to do it right, and not one can ever do it perfect, yet say you must try. This is why God sent Son for us in Jesus the one and only one ever to walk perfect in flesh and blood, for us, and was only born of woman, not man. Therefore God cannot be imitated as is said to do, can't
Then by his willing death, he took on himself the sin of the world. One time for us all. For us to choose to believe God in this or not, period. (Hebrews 10:10-12) Those that believe will not harm others purposely ever. That be the born again by God y'all
God did it, I accepted it, God saves and lets me know, his grace is sufficient for me. As perfect as I can get is to not harm others, whether or not others harm me. Now, you in belief too thank you.
Say, this to self. You have 5 to ten Children. And you do not want anyone of them to die, yet you got to choose for some of them to die, say 1, 2, 4, or all 5
What are you going to do? Can you pick some, none or all?
The mighty wisdom of God
No, you can't can you? Now see what God had in mind for us the children. Cor 5:17-20) as if are perfect through me. Then you can save them in my resurrected Life for them to live new and not harm others anymore by free choosing to do that through you in belief to you that am resurrected and will never die again, no more need after that cross. Those that believe you, they will continue in belief to you in your mercy, given through me.
God, Go Son go. So he did it, Jesus is risen forever for you to be too, since you believe God in risen Son
John 19:30, it is finished, done for new life in belief to begin in us the children in belief to what is done by God for us, at least me this I now see after a great warfare of flesh in this flesh and blood, that is not yet redeemed. I reckon it dead daily, and am not saying I am perfect, I am not, Yet God is and loves us all y'all
God by Son made us as if perfect, Col. 1:21-23
Accept in belief, thankfulness and see as long as you do not quit. I know, been in the troubles even death and lived here on earth to tell others to stand in belief to God no matter what happens to you. Or what you might have done or could do. In belief one changes to not harm others ever again
Thanks to God, Prejudice leaves. Harm to others leaves as the leaves in the fall fall off the trees
When a man lays with a woman that seed is like an offering on the mercy seat.
Adam,created on the 6th day is created in the image of the water,and Eve who came from not of the dirt as Adam did but his rib,was created in the image of the blood.
It would have been from his right rib and would also be the right rib which Jesus was pierced.
Adam said "this is now the bones of my bones and the flesh of my flesh.She shall be called woman cause she was taken out of man."
He is talking about his physical bones and his spiritual bones,his physical flesh and his spiritual heart of flesh, because Adam and Eve were as one before the fall as the covenant are as one.
He called her woman cause she was taken out of man.
"Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."
Ok,here's what happens.When Adam lays with Eve, a Ark is created.The Two cherubim on the Ark of the covenant represents the water, and the blood.
When the seed of Adam crosses over, at that moment that seed is on the mercy seat as an offering unto the Lord.It crosses over from the water to the blood.
So it was washed with the water before it entered into Eve.
Now the seed is in the womb and the same thing that happens to you when you're born again is happening to that seed.
Because that seed is in the Holy of Holies,behind the curtain veil,and it is growing.
When you are spiritually clean you enter the Holy of Holies,there you grow spiritually.
At 9 months that baby gets kicked out like Adam and Eve did at the garden and you must be born again.
There is nothing new under the sun.What once was will be again.
Adam,created on the 6th day is created in the image of the water,and Eve who came from not of the dirt as Adam did but his rib,was created in the image of the blood.
It would have been from his right rib and would also be the right rib which Jesus was pierced.
Adam said "this is now the bones of my bones and the flesh of my flesh.She shall be called woman cause she was taken out of man."
He is talking about his physical bones and his spiritual bones,his physical flesh and his spiritual heart of flesh, because Adam and Eve were as one before the fall as the covenant are as one.
He called her woman cause she was taken out of man.
"Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."
Ok,here's what happens.When Adam lays with Eve, a Ark is created.The Two cherubim on the Ark of the covenant represents the water, and the blood.
When the seed of Adam crosses over, at that moment that seed is on the mercy seat as an offering unto the Lord.It crosses over from the water to the blood.
So it was washed with the water before it entered into Eve.
Now the seed is in the womb and the same thing that happens to you when you're born again is happening to that seed.
Because that seed is in the Holy of Holies,behind the curtain veil,and it is growing.
When you are spiritually clean you enter the Holy of Holies,there you grow spiritually.
At 9 months that baby gets kicked out like Adam and Eve did at the garden and you must be born again.
There is nothing new under the sun.What once was will be again.
As for me(My opinion,lol) is that it has to do with the "refreshing/restoration of all things" Peter explains in Acts 3:20 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/acts/3.htm but it's in many other places in Scripture i.e. Romans 8:22,,,Revelation chapter 11, 20 ect. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/romans/8-22.htm but the just is in that when Christ returns the whole creation will be back to like in the beginning(reborn,a rebirth/new earth new heaven)... I think the whole thing is already sitting there in place after Christ(and could have taken place at the DBR of Jesus) but until they see and confess Jesus as Christ,King,Lord ect. then the Heavens must receive him... When they do the whole creation will change at his return(no more curse, and return to Garden of Eden on earth,,tree of life ect....resurrection of the dead,,,people will live perpetually,,all will be healed ect.).. much more could be said about that day but not in a paragraph....
Man still has the ability to choose between good and evil. However, the majority of people are so enticed by the pleasures of the world that they most often choose that instead of good.
Free will allows man the ability to choose who they will serve. God or mammon.
As well, God has and or will made/make Himself known to all men.
Joshua, Chapter 24:
14Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD.
15And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
16And the people answered and said, God forbid that we should forsake the LORD, to serve other gods;
Except the Bible doesn't say "Since the fall, man has lost the ability To do good! His thoughts are evil only!"
Interesting, the view you present in the correlating of water and blood. You right in one has to be born again by God or one is not in, thanks
Not first born dead to God, God made the first Adam. Adam ate from the tree, God said to not eat from, if did, Adam would die. Adam ate from that tree in Unbelief to God. Death came to all flesh
The Second Adam, Jesus the Christ, reversed the first curse, by belief to God his Father for us to be given this born new life, in his resurrection is what I see now. The full Gospel is much more than just getting forgiven
The above was stated after the first Adam failed, all that are born after his fall are first born as dead to God in their flesh nature, and each person sees this in growing up and some decide to believe God and others not. Then the Judgment, God decides
Thanks