Proof That Catholics Worship Mary

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wolfwint

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By whom was the first list of the books of the Bible drawn up? Pope Damasus, at the Roman Council of 382 A.D.
Nope, the list of books where finished with the latest writer apostle John.
 

Nehemiah6

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By whom was the first list of the books of the Bible drawn up? Pope Damasus, at the Roman Council of 382 A.D.
That is simply MISINFORMATION.

The Syriac Peshitta of the 2nd century already had the books of the NT. The Muratori Canon of the 2nd century also listed those books but not 100%. And Catholics included seven apocryphal books in their bibles. Long before this, the Lord Jesus Christ already listed for us the 24 books of the Hebrew Tanakh (which correspond exactly to our Protestant list of 39 books in the OT). Of course, He simply gave us the three broad categories of those books.
 
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you don't need to have a few sentences written in the bible to be able to test the power and spiritual gifts yourself, after praying the holy rosary
 

Nehemiah6

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you don't need to have a few sentences written in the bible to be able to test the power and spiritual gifts yourself, after praying the holy rosary
Praying to the holy rosary is unacceptable to most Christians. Did you know that other false religions also have their rosaries?
 
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do you think that the holy rosary does not work, or that the spiritual things that cause it are done by demons?
why would god allow this, why would he make such a trap for christians?
 

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do you think that the holy rosary does not work, or that the spiritual things that cause it are done by demons?
why would god allow this, why would he make such a trap for christians?
I'm sure it does "work," whatever that means; that doesn't mean it's from God. Magic and witchcraft work in the hands of a skilled practitioner. The real question is: Do you think God allows Satan to test people so He will know who are His true disciples and who are Satan's?
 

Nehemiah6

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why would god allow this, why would he make such a trap for christians?
God certainly did not make tis trap.

Check your Douay-Rheims English Bible for Catholics. You will not find the word "rosary" in that or in the Latin Vulgate of Jerome.

And how does 10 Hail Mary's help in praying to God?
"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen." You simply will not find this in any Bible either (Catholic or Protestant).

Also, if a person is saved, they are already guaranteed -- by God's grace -- to be with Christ at the hour of their death. That is why Christ died for our sins, and God justifies those who repent and believe on he Lord Jesus Christ. So "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord". Therefore there is no need to ask Mary to pray for anyone at the hour of their death. How did the Catholic Church get so confused?
 

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do you think that the holy rosary does not work, or that the spiritual things that cause it are done by demons?
why would god allow this, why would he make such a trap for christians?
God made not a trap. Nowhere in bible is said that we should use something like a rosary. In opposite Jesus warns to pray like the pagans which repeading the words because they believe their Gods listen to them because of the many of words.
Humans made their own beliefsystems. And sometines the devil is behind.
 
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God certainly did not make tis trap.

Check your Douay-Rheims English Bible for Catholics. You will not find the word "rosary" in that or in the Latin Vulgate of Jerome.

And how does 10 Hail Mary's help in praying to God?
"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen." You simply will not find this in any Bible either (Catholic or Protestant).

Also, if a person is saved, they are already guaranteed -- by God's grace -- to be with Christ at the hour of their death. That is why Christ died for our sins, and God justifies those who repent and believe on he Lord Jesus Christ. So "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord". Therefore there is no need to ask Mary to pray for anyone at the hour of their death. How did the Catholic Church get so confused?
who is confused? You who believe that you go to heaven automatically just because you believe in Jesus, or Catholics who pay attention to the ten commandments, and keep a pure soul, go to mass and the confessional, and pray for others?
 

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who is confused? You who believe that you go to heaven automatically just because you believe in Jesus, or Catholics who pay attention to the ten commandments, and keep a pure soul, go to mass and the confessional, and pray for others?
Attention to the ten commandments, go to mass and the confessional and try to keep a pure soul dont brings you into heaven!
Thats Christ alone who paid the price for your sins. Yes it is believing in Christ alone! Nothing to add.
 
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in the movie matrix there are three characters, morpheus (son of the god of sleep from greek mythology), neo (keanu reeves, his appearance and behavior may remind us of jesus), and the female character TRINITY .. (why does the woman have the name trinity?.. is she some an allusion to the Virgin Mary?)
 

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who is confused? You who believe that you go to heaven automatically just because you believe in Jesus, or Catholics who pay attention to the ten commandments, and keep a pure soul, go to mass and the confessional, and pray for others?
Read and study your Bible (if your are really serious about this matter). The Bible is the Word of God, and does not take second place to the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
 

Nehemiah6

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just because they believe in another god, doesn't mean they don't have to be heard ;)
Did you get this idea from the Bible, or is it just wishful thinking?
 

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outward religion is a sure sign inner emptiness
"My way or the highway" is a sure sign of nothingness which also pushes people away. ;)