Pro-abortion insanity

[loveme1]

It is sad that people support abortion.

In the Bible the women were so pleased to be with child and many sought GOD to help them conceive.

We must remember it is not only the woman at fault but society and the ways of the world.

We have a system of life where a woman fears losing her job because of pregnancy, which for some could mean losing her home..

Young girls are given the ultimatum by parents to abort or face being kicked out of the home.

 

[raf]

Do you have a hobby of misrepresenting what people say? Man, talk about a strawman argument.


In the cases of people who have never heard of God, God still judges them appropriately because He is fair and just.

Understanding this scripture might help you sound more logical and mature next time you encounter a similar situation:

Im going by what you said dont get all upset a lot of christians really think that who knows you could have been one of them.

 

[danschance]

Im going by what you said dont get all upset a lot of christians really think that who knows you could have been one of them.

Who you are and what you motivation is seems clear. You have a picture of Jesus holding a dinosaur. To me, that is offensive and it might be a violation of the few rules this site has. It's like going to a jewish chat room and having a picture of Hitler. I'm sure you think it is funny, but try to think how others might take it.

If you are an atheist, then it is OK to be here but offensive pics might not be OK. Maybe you could change it to something like Grey has. It shows he is an atheist and it is not offensive. Maybe you can find something better?

 

[IronChariots]

IronTricycle, Good observation. I tried to listen to it but could not hear that. I did hear chanting in the background but I can't say what was being said. They did write:"The Pro-abortion crowd has responded with repeated chants of 'Hail satan'. It took us all to get a video". So it maybe possible that the chanting in the background is "hail satan".

Danspants, who cares? If they were chanting "hail satan" (which doesn't sound
like they are) it was just to tease the fundamentalists. They don't really worship
satan.

 

[Shiloah]

I am trying to figure out how this thread went from protesters saying "Hail satan" to let's talk about homosexuality? Perhaps some people have a hobby in derailing threads??

I know that's my hobby, or so I've heard.

 

[danschance]

Danspants, who cares? If they were chanting "hail satan" (which doesn't sound
like they are) it was just to tease the fundamentalists. They don't really worship
satan.

Ironwheelchair, I meant that last post purely as a compliment. I did not hear it and I am glad you did. Thats all. You may be correct in that those who did say "hail satan" ,might of been trying to be offensive to the christians. That is what I think also. I never said they worship satan. The part in quotation marks is the blurb under that vid, not my words at all. Who knows what they worship, I certainly don't.

 

[carey]

I am pro life, ALL LIFE! We have a saying in our home, so long as you have breath, you have hope. Especially since I have still yet to carry a baby full term

 

[smithbr8]

How can they claim to worship anyone else? The destruction of innocent life is nothing less than diabolical.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

How is it any different to mow one's lawn, to eat vegetables, to eat meat, to breathe. All these actions commit murder. You eat knowing very well that the thing you are eating once had life, even plant life. All humans are murderers simply by living. Even to refuse any of these things, one would eventually perish and kill oneself. There is no way to live without murdering as a human. Does this mean by eating or breathing, we are all diabolical?

 

[danschance]

How is it any different to mow one's lawn, to eat vegetables, to eat meat, to breathe. All these actions commit murder. You eat knowing very well that the thing you are eating once had life, even plant life. All humans are murderers simply by living. Even to refuse any of these things, one would eventually perish and kill oneself. There is no way to live without murdering as a human. Does this mean by eating or breathing, we are all diabolical?

Murder is a legal term that only applies to humans. Animal and plant life is not equal to human life.

 

[smithbr8]

Murder is a legal term that only applies to humans. Animal and plant life is not equal to human life.

According to God it's murder or is that just the human word for it? Does God believe nothing else matters?

 

[1Christianwarrior316]

How is it any different to mow one's lawn, to eat vegetables, to eat meat, to breathe. All these actions commit murder. You eat knowing very well that the thing you are eating once had life, even plant life. All humans are murderers simply by living. Even to refuse any of these things, one would eventually perish and kill oneself. There is no way to live without murdering as a human. Does this mean by eating or breathing, we are all diabolical?

Show me the book, chapter, or verse that says that using plants or animals as food is murder?

If you actually read and studied God's Word you would realize that your statement is nothing more than rubbish.

 

[danschance]

According to God it's murder or is that just the human word for it? Does God believe nothing else matters?

I have no clue which god you are talking about, but it is not the God I know. The bible clearly says "kill and eat". It even shows Jesus eating animal flesh. So wherever you are getting your information, it is not from the bible and it is of no consequence to me. It seems obvious that you are just being a troll.

 

[BeanieD]

sorry to hear, would be nice to get to know you

 

[wordhelpsme]

The majority of people have an innate since of what isright and what is wrong. Such as killing, stealing…. Even in the most godless societies throughout time laws were enacted to prevent certain crimes and law abiding people obeyed them. Romans 2:14,15

I believe those taking a life through abortion, know that it is wrong. God or no God, theywant to do what they want to do. They justify the decisions by saying it is not yet a life. All studies show that it is. So much begins at conception.

Life is sacred to God, and he views even an embryo as adistinct, living being. (Psalm139:16) God stated that a person would be called to account for injuring an unborn child. So, in his eyes, killing an unborn child is murder. Exodus 20:13; 21:22, 23

Consider many abortions are done because of fornication, which is forbid in old and new testaments. Abstinence until marriage is God’sway.

Psalm 139:16 – Your eyes could see me as an embryo, but in your book all my days were already written; my days had been shaped before any of them existed. (CJB)

Exodus 20:13 – Thou shalt not kill.

Exodus 21:22, 23 – If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. But if there is serious injury,you are to take life for life.

Romans 2: 14, 15 – Indeed when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.

 

[smithbr8]

I have no clue which god you are talking about, but it is not the God I know. The bible clearly says "kill and eat". It even shows Jesus eating animal flesh. So wherever you are getting your information, it is not from the bible and it is of no consequence to me. It seems obvious that you are just being a troll.

So rape victims are trolls. There's no way that I can read the Bible one way? I'm somehow less of a human being because I was raped? You're a horrible human being.

 

[smithbr8]

Show me the book, chapter, or verse that says that using plants or animals as food is murder?

If you actually read and studied God's Word you would realize that your statement is nothing more than rubbish.

Can you show me the verse where a fetus is declared as alive from the moment of conception? I mean concrete proof that states abortion is against God's law? What Bible verse says "Abortion is murder"? Not guessing that it is because the fetus is "alive" but concrete black and white proof that God says Abortion is murder.

 

[smithbr8]

I have no clue which god you are talking about, but it is not the God I know. The bible clearly says "kill and eat". It even shows Jesus eating animal flesh. So wherever you are getting your information, it is not from the bible and it is of no consequence to me. It seems obvious that you are just being a troll.

Exodus 20:13 – Thou shalt not kill. Does it say "humans"??? no. It says "Thou shalt not kill" PERIOD. That means ANYTHING. But then again you already said I was worthless and a troll since clearly I do not understand God better than He does, like you claim to.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Smith isn't being a troll. She wants to learn, but can't decipher through who is right and who is being judgemental. I've seen smith on the forums enough to know she is a sweet person but doesn't fully understand scripture. Lets stop. Take a breath and kindly explain the answers to her.

Also, give a little compassion to her. All she wants is someone to talk to her and explain things.

 

[danschance]

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Can you show me the verse where a fetus is declared as alive from the moment of conception? I mean concrete proof that states abortion is against God's law? What Bible verse says "Abortion is murder"? Not guessing that it is because the fetus is "alive" but concrete black and white proof that God says Abortion is murder.

22“If men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she gives birth prematurely, yet there is no injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman’s husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judgesdecide.23“But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life,24eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,25burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
Exodus 21:22-25

This verse shows that if you kill a baby while it is still inside it's mother, it is murder.

 

[danschance]

Exodus 20:13 – Thou shalt not kill. Does it say "humans"??? no. It says "Thou shalt not kill" PERIOD. That means ANYTHING. But then again you already said I was worthless and a troll since clearly I do not understand God better than He does, like you claim to.

Once again you do not know what you are saying. The hebrew word translated into "kill" is actually a legal term for murder. The King James says "kill" but modern day translations have fixed this. Here are some examples of this:

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New International Version (©2011)
"You shall not murder.New Living Translation (©2007)
"You must not murder.
English Standard Version (©2001)
“You shall not murder.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"You shall not murder.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Thou shalt not kill.
Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
Do not murder.
International Standard Version (©2012)
"You are not to commit murder.
NET Bible (©2006)
"You shall not murder.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
"Never murder.
World English Bible
"You shall not murder.
Young's Literal Translation
'Thou dost not murder.

Every time you post on this forum, you always show scripture in the poorest light possible. You pretend to be a poor confused woman but your posts show your true hostility towards christianity. You may have some fooled, but I am not one of them. Please find a new hobby.
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