President Trump’s Christianity

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LOL, you can't make this stuff up. Members of Donald's administration (Donald himself, JD Vance, Steven Miller) are calling the LA rioters "insurrectionists." No, an insurrectionist is someone who storms the Capital, thirsty for blood, and threatens to kill the vice president and members of Congress. You remember don't you Donald, the ones you pardoned. They're looking for any lie or excuse to bring down a police state.
 

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Oh that my people had hearkened unto me, and Israel had walked in my ways!

Psalm 81:1 Sing aloud unto God our strength: make a joyful noise unto the God of Jacob. 2 Take a psalm, and bring hither the timbrel, the pleasant harp with the psaltery. 3 Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day.

About 20% of Americans claim to go to church (or some other religious service) each week. In the 1950s church attendance was about 63% of the population.

4 For this was a statute for Israel, and a law of the God of Jacob.

We used to have a statute concerning Sunday and those were called "Blue laws".

5 This he ordained in Joseph for a testimony, when he went out through the land of Egypt: where I heard a language that I understood not.

This is why the US was called a "Christian nation". I grew up when everyone went to church. You simply assumed this is what everyone does. Then when I visited England and Taiwan I found out that was not true.

6 I removed his shoulder from the burden: his hands were delivered from the pots.

So consider the US history, in the 1950s we had this rapid development of appliances that washed our clothes and our pots, and which did the heavy work of digging, and hauling stuff.

7 Thou calledst in trouble, and I delivered thee; I answered thee in the secret place of thunder: I proved thee at the waters of Meribah. Selah.

The Day of Trouble for America was WW2 and the bombing of Pearl Harbor. FDR had fireside chats and the whole nation called on the Lord to save after Pearl Harbor.

8 Hear, O my people, and I will testify unto thee: O Israel, if thou wilt hearken unto me; 9 There shall no strange god be in thee; neither shalt thou worship any strange god.

But then what happened in the 1960s? You have a hippy movement, you have strange gods, you have fornication and drugs and chanting and rock and roll music. People get upset when you say this but the group Black Sabbath was clearly involved in the occult and pushing that with their music. Led Zeppelin musicians were known to be involved in the occult, the same is said of John Lennon with the Beatles, of course the Rolling Stones were very frank about having a strange god, and of course Bob Dylan has said he made a pact with the Devil. Meanwhile Grammies award shows have become worship of the occult.

10 I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

This is the promise, God has made good on that promise, we should be able to see that God has been faithful to save when we called.

11 But my people would not hearken to my voice; and Israel would none of me.

And yet this is precisely what has happened. We have dropped from 63% of Americans attending church each week to 20%. Meanwhile we have seen divorce, abortion, drug addiction, and domestic abuse all skyrocket.

12 So I gave them up unto their own hearts' lust: and they walked in their own counsels.

All of the ills are a result of Americans walking in their own hearts lust.

13 Oh that my people had hearkened unto me, and Israel had walked in my ways!


Look at what has happened as a result of computers, the internet, AI, robots, fusion, and quantum computers. We understand that all these things are tools, extremely powerful tools. In the right hands the whole world could have become a paradise. But in the wrong hands this can be the fulfillment of demonic dreams like the Purge.

14 I should soon have subdued their enemies, and turned my hand against their adversaries.

In the 1950s there was a fork in the road. One road leads to God quickly subduing our adversaries. The other road leads to where we are today.

15 The haters of the Lord should have submitted themselves unto him: but their time should have endured for ever.

Today the haters of the Lord have exploded like a plague of mosquitos.

16 He should have fed them also with the finest of the wheat: and with honey out of the rock should I have satisfied thee.
 
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LOL, you can't make this stuff up. Members of Donald's administration (Donald himself, JD Vance, Steven Miller) are calling the LA rioters "insurrectionists." No, an insurrectionist is someone who storms the Capital, thirsty for blood, and threatens to kill the vice president and members of Congress. You remember don't you Donald, the ones you pardoned. They're looking for any lie or excuse to bring down a police state.
Insurrectionists are those who look to overthrow the government of a nation, and claim the insurrected land as belonging to someone else.

If these ain’t insurrectionists, I don’t know what are!

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I probably wouldn't have that much of a problem with the Donald if he hadn't used Christianity as a ruse to get elected. He's the one who made it about religion. Maga "apostles" and "prophets" are the ones preaching that the US was founded as a Christian nation and needs to be one again. Christian nationalists were the ones preaching at the Capitol on J6. So-called Christians are the ones behind most of Project 2025. If they want a Christian nation, fine, let's have one; but first they need to learn the true meaning of Christianity.
he may not be a Christian but he is in constant contact with Christian pastors & leaders & he is resurrecting this country out of it's doldrums, partially, & out of the obama-biden catastrophe.
 

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I'll preface this by saying I don't support what Biden was planning to do, if what Noem says is true. However, it never ceases to amaze me how quickly they flip flop depending on which way the wind is blowing. They know they're on record most of the time and they simply don't care. I have a feeling I'll be in for a very long wait waiting for Kristi Noem to criticize the Donald for trampling on states' rights.
Dude, flip flopping is something the Dems are champions at!
They take your vote and then they say "see ya later, i never knew you".
Trump on the other hand is doing exactly what he said on the campaign promises.
 

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God's word, both OT and NT, recognizes degrees of crimes and/or sins. Treating someone who crossed the border illegally but has lived peacefully and has not harmed anyone or committed any other crimes, the same as dangerous criminals, is not Christian but is cruel and unjust and I can guarantee the Lord isn't happy about it.

On top of this, we were sold the idea of deportation on the basis of making the US safe and deporting dangerous criminals. Now they're going after innocent children, students whose free speech they don't like, they smashed in a guy's car window in Boston who it turned out wasn't even the guy they were looking for, they arrested a member of Congress in NJ just for visiting and ICE facility. They're out of control; and people wonder why there are protests. I'd be shocked if there weren't protests. This is the USA, not N. Korea or Russia.
is not Christian but is cruel and unjust and I can guarantee the Lord isn't happy about it

What world do you live in that you think there are Christian governments in the world and that you know how God feels?

This is called Correction when the other side, your side the left, leaves open borders and lets criminals go free even when they're caught killing people on camera!

Time for you to take your coping pills buddy.
 

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LOL, you can't make this stuff up. Members of Donald's administration (Donald himself, JD Vance, Steven Miller) are calling the LA rioters "insurrectionists." No, an insurrectionist is someone who storms the Capital, thirsty for blood, and threatens to kill the vice president and members of Congress. You remember don't you Donald, the ones you pardoned. They're looking for any lie or excuse to bring down a police state.
You don't like it? Too bad!
I would say this is ON-POINT compared to when a leftist judge can't define a woman.
 
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LOL, you can't make this stuff up. Members of Donald's administration (Donald himself, JD Vance, Steven Miller) are calling the LA rioters "insurrectionists." No, an insurrectionist is someone who storms the Capital, thirsty for blood, and threatens to kill the vice president and members of Congress. You remember don't you Donald, the ones you pardoned. They're looking for any lie or excuse to bring down a police state.
I prefer to think of you as ResidentIllegalAlien
 
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God's word, both OT and NT, recognizes degrees of crimes and/or sins. Treating someone who crossed the border illegally but has lived peacefully
Is a criminal.

and has not harmed anyone
Is a criminal.


or committed any other crimes,
the same as dangerous criminals,
Is a criminal.

is not Christian but is cruel and unjust and I can guarantee the Lord isn't happy about it.
Still a criminal and should be put out of the country. You can feel sorry for them all the way back to where they came from.

On top of this, we were sold the idea of deportation on the basis of making the US safe and deporting dangerous criminals. Now they're going after innocent children,
Flat out lie. They are going after criminals who came here illegally. They leave, their children go too.

students whose free speech they don't like,
Criminals. Calling for genocide and holy war. Stopping Jewish students from attending classes.

they smashed in a guy's car window in Boston who it turned out wasn't even the guy they were looking for,
That's what the couple claims. We'll see how that turns out.


they arrested a member of Congress in NJ just for visiting and ICE facility.
Another lie, but you know that.
 

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The Cambridge Dictionary defines “insurrection” as: “an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence.”

By that definition, there was no “insurrection” at the United States Capitol on Jan. 6, according to the FBI.

Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources | Reuters

Democrats are the great projectionists.
So what are you trying to say, that the Cambridge dictionary's definition is wrong? I assumed that since the Jan 6th protestors were called insurrectionists it meant people who were patriots and wanted their government to abide by the law even when it is difficult and hold those responsible for election fraud responsible. Maybe we should check more modern definitions, perhaps the meaning of the word has changed.
 

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I'll preface this by saying I don't support what Biden was planning to do, if what Noem says is true. However, it never ceases to amaze me how quickly they flip flop depending on which way the wind is blowing. They know they're on record most of the time and they simply don't care. I have a feeling I'll be in for a very long wait waiting for Kristi Noem to criticize the Donald for trampling on states' rights.

as a multi-generational southerner, in ga, , i would be glad to have a conversation about state's rights.

i can then tell you about. from stories past down, and show the path that gen. sherman and the blue bellied devils ravaged on the way to the coast..
 
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I saw a one on one interview with a news person and Donald Trump sometime ago. The interviewer was trying to get Trump to say that he had a need for forgiveness one time in his life. Donald said no he lived a good life he never felt the need for forgiveness. I would like to suggest that someone who has never felt the need for forgiveness, cannot have accepted Jesus as their savior and lord. That requires, realizing we are sinner confessing our sins repenting, and asking Jesus to be our Lord and Savior. And after that, it means following scripture. Scripture asked us to feed the hungry give water to the thirsty, provide the needs of the sick. This is in Matthew five. Trump‘s policies kicking people off of Medicaid is not in alignment with these kingdom goals.
Everyone have a blessed day.
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The new age christianity.

The new age christianity interprets the Bible according to the occult and evolution, and people are going to evolve to be spiritual, and greater, and Jesus became an ascended master among others, and there is no personal God, but they honor the God of forces the power of nature, and the New Age Christ is the next world teacher.

The time will come that people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but want to hear it according to the new age.

Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Dan 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

The New Age Christ will not acknowledge a personal God.

The United Nations supports new age organizations so they go along with their beliefs and want that to be the operation of the world.

The new age had a hand in the 1960's counter culture movement, feminism, LGBTQ+, and the Woke movement.

They have to knock down the major influences in society to able to influence society which are white people, men, straight, and Christian, and boost the minor influences.

The Woke movement will accept the new age so they are trying to make it the major influence.

Marilyn Ferguson wrote a book The Aquarian Conspiracy on how to influence society to reflect the new age and she said change children's education which they influence the children so they will be accepting of the Woke movement.

Donald Trump is following the new age christianity which they do not believe they need their sins forgiven.

He was put in place to increase the fighting between the 2 political parties and to deal with the stubborn Republicans.

He claims to be of God so he can gain the trust and support of the Republicans to convince them to accept the current changes that will take place.

When Trump publicly changes his stance to go along with the Pope he is hoping the Republicans will go along with it.

They will say Science has proven the correct interpretation of the Bible.

The new age movement is the biggest threat to Christianity, and the freedoms of America, which is worse than the threat of Islam, and the top leaders of the Republican party will warn the people of Islam, and they are terrorists, but they will not warn the people of the new age movement, and that is because they are with the new age movement.

It is obvious when the Roman Empire embraced Christianity they did not get rid of their pagan, and occult ways, and it became their foundation for interpreting scriptures.

Because of that they can sway to go along with the world as it changes.

Pope Leo XIV will start the harmonization of the world and eventually publicly announce the new age christianity as the correct interpretation of the Bible.

This will pull in atheists, all the other religions, in to one system as they gear the Roman Catholic Church to become the religious system of the world.

He will try to harmonize the Republicans and Democrats and the world.

Some people in Science says the Bible is true, and people do not cease to exist after death.

They are saying modern Science is giving the correct interpretation of the Bible by new discoveries giving them a new perspective of things, and the Christians are interpreting it wrong.

Science as an organization was set up to get people away from the Bible and a personal God and then give them the new age interpretation of the Bible.

The top leaders of the Republicans and Democrats are actually working together which is the Hegel System which they set up 2 opposing forces and then they harmonize them together with a balance between them which they believe is a better system than either system alone and it brings the people together.

Which on the back of the dollar bill, Announcing the conception of a new order of the ages, and out of many, one.

America and Russia were working together the whole time as the 2 opposing forces of the Hegel System.

Which the one world government will be a balance between democracy and communism, and the unified religious system a balance between atheism and spirituality, the new age christianity which they believe they are going to evolve to be spiritual, and greater.

The nations want a one world government now but they want to make it look like all things are happening by coincidence.

WW1, League of Nations, WW2, United Nations, a set up to get the nations governments to work for peace on earth.

The Ukraine war a set up to get the people of the world to be on board for a one world government.

As soon as Israel and Hamas started fighting the nations started spewing out threats, and warnings, dividing themselves choosing sides, as a scare tactic, and to set the stage for the New Age Christ to negotiate peace in the Middle East resulting in a peace treaty for the world.

North Korea and America, Taiwan and China, a set up, and any other conflicts a set up.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

Alice Bailey the biggest prophet of the new age said there is an outer circle and inner circle of the occult and the inner circle is the true church.

She was married to a Freemason who agreed with her occult teachings and theosophy so he is part of the inner circle of Freemasonry.

Pope Leo XIV claims to be a Jesuit which they are connected with Freemasonry.

The world is motivated by power and control and has not changed.

What is going on is it is the secret societies, inner circle, that want power and control, and to establish their beliefs as mainstream beliefs of the world.

Which is being done by a slow implementation and conditioning of the people.

They want to have a one world government that has the centralized power and then they can have the world how they want it and reduce the population.

The inner circles beliefs are too extreme for mainstream society to accept so they put out a lighter version that sounds tolerable and indoctrinate the people and after that goes on for a while they will accept the inner circles beliefs.

The New Age Christ will negotiate peace in the Middle East resulting in a peace treaty and then he will push the agenda of the new age, outer circle, white magic, which he will think to change times and laws to the format of humanity for three and one half years.

Then he will claim to be God by evolving to be spiritual, and greater, and will turn to black magic, inner circle, and that will be the mainstream beliefs of the world which the people will accept then.

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United Nations Agenda 21 for the 21st century which is known as Agenda 30 for the year 2030 when they want it implemented.

They want to move all people in to the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and the people are the police force.

They want to give the people a microchip under the skin linked to satellite like a GPS tracking system for humans.

They can watch the people, and know their location, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene.

This will cut out judges, lawyers, and the now known police force.

All information about the person will be on the chip including finances for it is the one world economic system.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

chi xi stigma
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The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

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From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

The mark of the beast is something stuck under something and since it is given to a person it is stuck under their skin.

The New Age Christ's agenda is there is no personal God to help mankind but their technology can help them to deter crime, and have peace.

The new age is of the occult and the occult believes in the power of numbers and the timing, adding, and grouping of numbers which they believe will give them more power through nature.

6 is the number of a person, or the soul of a person, so the antichrist has the number 666, a triple 6, which he believes will give him more power to evolve to be spiritual, and establish his kingdom.

666 is the number that exalts people in the occult.

They want to convince the world if they embrace the number 666 they will have the power to evolve, and transform the world.

Donald Trump said that the federal government owns one third of the land, and he wants to build new cities on that land.

Trump said that America has been wanting to implement a biometric system for people on temporary visas, and if that was in place 911 could of been avoided.

Which he is telling them a microchip is a good way to deter crime.

The Democrats are using black people, and BLM, in their plan.

They found a way to cause their communities to crumble, get their support, and to use them for their purpose.

They gave them welfare, and whatever else they did, and got their support to use for BLM, and caused their communities to become crime ridden, and run down.

They use their communities to show that the police force is not the best solution to fight crime for they want to do away with the police loving they are saying defund the police.

They convince them of white privilege, and systemic racism, so BLM will push a communism agenda saying that is the only way white people and black people can be equal for then white privilege, and systemic racism are gone.

That is why the founders of BLM were trained in Marxism.

The tariffs, trade wars, are part of the one world government plan.

The United Nations want the world to be divided in to 10 sections with a leader in each section.

The Democrats do not secure the border for they want illegals running in to America and want it to get out of control so they can merge America and Mexico as the solution along with Canada as one nation.

Which Mexico and Canada are with that plan.

They give the illegals benefits to support them to enrage the Americans so they will be on board to merge them which then it would cease.

Donald Trump is working on making Canada the 51st state.

They are already ageeing to it but they have to make it look like there is complications as well as the the world.

This is to throw off the world that there is a plan going on and they have to go slowly and they have to waste time until they feel it is he right time do bring something out or do something.

It is time for God to end sin on earth so He is allowing the world to have their way for a certain amount of time and cause all people who do not love Him to follow the New Age Christ and when they take his mark then He will end sin on earth.

The new age is the beginning of the end for those who do not love God.

They believe aliens are going to help them to have peace, and advance.

But they are the fallen angels who will deceive the people that do not love God and when they take the mark of the beast repentance, and salvation are no loner available to the world and they will have the nature of the devil and then He will end sin on earth.

They believe Lucifer is a god, and an alien, that gave mankind intelligence, and will cause mankind to evolve along with the New Age Christ.

They do not believe Lucifer is a fallen angel for they do not believe in a personal God.

1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
1Th 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

There will not be peace as the new age christianity, outer circle believes, for the inner circle wants chaos for population reduction and to use the chaos to cause the people to accept the New Age Christ as the solution for peace, and the fallen angels will wreck havoc with the world during the time they can influence mankind more.

The new age christianity, outer circle, white magic, is a stepping stone for the secret societies, inner circle, black magic.

It is the plan of the inner circle of the occult whose beliefs are too extreme for mainstream society so they put out an outer circle of the occult that is more tolerable to indoctrinate them in to a lighter version of the occult as a stepping stone to the coming inner circles beliefs that will come out when the New Age Christ claims to be God which the outer circle will accept then.
 
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Trump would not need to step in if the officials in California just did their jobs. Now Newsom is projecting. The democrats already crossed the line of authoritarianism but it backfired for them. Newsom is of no help and has sided with the illegals and criminals.
 

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Trump would not need to step in if the officials in California just did their jobs. Now Newsom is projecting. The democrats already crossed the line of authoritarianism but it backfired for them. Newsom is of no help and has sided with the illegals and criminals.
Now I'm confused, Newsom is saying that arresting a sitting governor is a line we should not cross? I thought a year ago he was saying that no one is above the law.