Predestination is misunderstood...

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Thunderrr-mental said:
Hes a bit of a monkey at times going bananas 😋

Maybe we should give him some attention and tell him what a wonderful monkey he is.

Other wise he may just start swinging from the trees soon.
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Well if he was struck like lightning like he says it axtually makes sense he would act like that our brains produce electrons a lot of them if lightning is the case it can make the brain act in strange ways
 
sawdust said:
the creature) but you think these are believers. o_O

The only thing this type of person believed in was themself.
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"But evil men and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived."​

2 Timothy 3:13


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Thunderrr-mental said:
If you didn't deserve his love in your fallen state than why did he clothe you.
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Because He loved what He knew what he would make us to become once Justice was satisfied by the Cross.
Like an ace mechanic and body shop loves a real junker that was salvaged out of a dump, knowing that what
was salvaged was designed to be a real classic collector's item......

That is why its called "salvation." For God salvaged us from a dump.
 
Genez said:
Because He loved what He knew what he would make us to become once Justice was satisfied by the Cross.
Like an ace mechanic and body shop loves a real junker that was salvaged out of a dump, knowing that what
was salvaged was designed to be a real classic collector's item......

That is why its called "salvation." For God salvaged us from a dump.
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Can I ask you what exactly do you think they are saying? Do you think we downgrade what Jesus did? Because it seems to me you just want to stir the pot
 
Blain said:
Can I ask you what exactly do you think they are saying? Do you think we downgrade what Jesus did? Because it seems to me you just want to stir the pot
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I do not see what it was you are misunderstanding... Why did you ask me "what they think?" It was not even addressed to you, but you are asking like you had already asked me a question of some sort.

Please... show me what I missed?
 
Genez said:
I do not see what it was you are misunderstanding... Why did you ask me "what they think?" It was not even addressed to you, but you are asking like you had already asked me a question of some sort.

Please... show me what I missed?
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they as in everyone you are squabbling with and yes I will step in even if it is not addressed to me

So again do you think they or even I forinstance are downgrading what he did for us? what even is your purpose on here? I hsven't seen many of your posts but from what I have seen you have no intention of discussing and learning and when your called out you retailiate

Awise man gladly recieves rebuke a fool responds in ignorance so are you a wise man or a fool?
 
Blain said:
So again do you think they or even I for instance are downgrading what he did for us? what even is your purpose on here? I hsven't seen many of your posts but from what I have seen you have no intention of discussing and learning and when your called out you retailiate

Awise man gladly recieves rebuke a fool responds in ignorance so are you a wise man or a fool?
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Sounds like I am just being myself, but its something you are allergic to.
I still have no idea what it is.

And, no. I did not pick you out for anything.
You are a new voice to me...
 
Genez said:
Sounds like I am just being myself, but its something you are allergic to.
I still have no idea what it is.

And, no. I did not pick you out for anything.
You are a new voice to me...
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If being yourself is responding how you do yelling sarcastic remarks using scripyure like it is a toy instead of the word of God the same voice that spoke all in existance then you need to return to your first love because you do not know him

And no I never said you picked me out rather I was refering to how you reacted from just the words fallen state and every post you have made to others about salvation you speak of salvation but where is this salvation in your heart? where is patience wisdom love where is the peace and joy?
 
Blain said:
If being yourself is responding how you do yelling sarcastic remarks using scripyure like it is a toy instead of the word of God the same voice that spoke all in existance then you need to return to your first love because you do not know him

And no I never said you picked me out rather I was refering to how you reacted from just the words fallen state and every post you have made to others about salvation you speak of salvation but where is this salvation in your heart? where is patience wisdom love where is the peace and joy?
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Please..... Give me examples of what you speak.... I do not take the Word of God lightly.


Let's all see what you find offensive, please.
 
Genez said:
Because He loved what He knew what he would make us to become once Justice was satisfied by the Cross.
Like an ace mechanic and body shop loves a real junker that was salvaged out of a dump, knowing that what
was salvaged was designed to be a real classic collector's item......

That is why its called "salvation." For God salvaged us from a dump.
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Well that must mean we where deserving of something then.

I do like this analogy and I have used it before.

Obviously what missing from your analogy is the Godly sorrow lol.

For instance will you only pick a car that has potential. Or will you pick it because you feal sorry that it's been beaten up.

Then obviously people will not pick any old car because of how badly written of they are.

But surely in the scrap yard for the unbeliever, there all beaten up.

So God has to pick everyone surely.

He must have chose to restore Adam and eve for other than fact he saw a collectors item.

They must have been deserving of something

Was it the fact he knew they where going to spend the rest of there life's being beaten up.
 
Thunderrr-mental said:
Well that must mean we where deserving of something then.

I do like this analogy and I have used it before.

Obviously what missing from your analogy is the Godly sorrow lol.

For instance will you only pick a car that has potential. Or will you pick it because you feal sorry that it's been beaten up.

Then obviously people will not pick any old car because of how badly written of they are.

But surely in the scrap yard for the unbeliever, there all beaten up.

So God has to pick everyone surely.

He must have chose to restore Adam and eve for other than fact he saw a collectors item.

They must have been deserving of something

Was it the fact he knew they where going to spend the rest of there life's being beaten up.
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There is a problem with the arbitrary sovereignty of God thinking.

God does not pick unworthy things ........

Again.
Humility is the key.

Humility in a man knows he is unable to be what God desires of him.
Unworthy would mean God can try, but never get anyone to become what He desire of them.

Calvinism has poisoned the drinking water...
Its God's justice that is our contact point with God.
Calvinism, makes God's sovereignty our contact point with God, which leaves us on our side without a contact point.
 
Thunderrr-mental said:
Well that must mean we where deserving of something then.

I do like this analogy and I have used it before.

Obviously what missing from your analogy is the Godly sorrow lol.
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God giving us personal insight into our own depravity, which can only happen after salvation, causes grief and sorrow for a season.
 
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