Predestination is misunderstood...
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Even asking the question, "what if it isn't God's will that I should be saved..." is giving Satan room to introduce doubt.
On the other hand, if we so much as exercise? a mustard seed of faith, that leaves God enough room to prick our hearts and begin the operation of circumcision.
And the unfaithful are those that continue to refuse to let that mustard seed to even be cracked.
No one that has ever "lost their salvation" had so much as a crack in a mustard seed of faith to begin with.
Of course. Without the filling/leading of the Spirit we will flounder even though we are saved.
Like the saying goes ... God is not a crutch, He's a complete life support system ... or ... No God, no life. Know God, know life.
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Of course. Without the filling/leading of the Spirit we will flounder even though we are saved.
Like the saying goes ... God is not a crutch, He's a complete life support system ... or ... No God, no life. Know God, know life.
Romans 8:9 says, "You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him." This verse suggests that if someone does not have the Holy Spirit, they do not belong to Christ. Another relevant verse is
1 Corinthians 2:14, which says, "The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
Romans 12:1–2: “I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will."
1 Peter 2:11: “Dearly beloved, I beg you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul; maintaining good conduct among the Gentiles, so that though they speak against you as evildoers, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day of visitation."
1 Timothy 4:7: “Have nothing to do with irreverent, silly myths. Rather train yourself for godliness; for while bodily training is of some value, godliness is of value in every way, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come."
Colossians 3:23–24: “Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward. You are serving the Lord Christ."
Ephesians 6:13: “Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand."
These verses encourage readers to pursue holiness, avoid worldly temptations, serve others, maintain integrity, and rely on God's strength to resist sin and live a godly life
Other verses that provide additional insights into godly living include 1 Peter 2:2, 1 John 2:15–16, and 1 Corinthians 11:1–34
A style of life in the sphere of the Holy Spirit and a deep relationship with Christ Jesus and our fellow men.
Most are talking the walk but not walking the talk-just a observation.
J.
Well-if you speak Chinese we may go back to the tower of Babel and-......
Ngikhuluma isiShayina kuphela
Futhi- uma uvilapha ngingaphakamisa ukuthi ufunde ulimi ukuze sifunde sonke
I am not the frivolous, joking kind of fella-life is too precious.
J.
Sorry, I see that was for verses later in Acts 2, My mistake
23 Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; 24 whom God raised up, having [g]loosed the [h]pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it. 25 For David says concerning Him:
‘I foresaw the Lord always before my face,
For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken.
26 Therefore my heart rejoiced, and my tongue was glad;
Moreover my flesh also will rest in hope.
27 For You will not leave my soul in Hades,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.
28 You have made known to me the ways of life;
You will make me full of joy in Your presence.’
1. The purpose of Christ coming was to die for the sins of mankind, to redeem them to himself
2. God knew what would happen, he even knew how it would be done.
3. He accused the Jews of taking Jesus by lawless hands and put him to death,
I really do not see how this has to do with Romans 9 to 11 and Paul answering the question. Did God make a mistake choosing Israel..
where does it say we are not to repent? (circumcise our heart)
where do you think Godly sorrow comes from?
Oh he knows it.
That's why Jesus said they hide from the light, lest they be exposed..
It is also why they are so angry, especially at believers.. and why they crucified Christ.
lol,
Still fighting it huh?
I did not merit salvation. I recieved it as a gift of God. it was Gods good will and favor that saved me
God doesn't make mistakes. My point was Jesus was both put to death by the predetermined choice of God and through the actions of the Jewish leaders. It was God's purpose being fulfilled through the will of men without God taking away the will of men. Both parties acted as free moral agents, and both of their own volition brought about their desired end; one to His glory and the other to their own destruction.
So while the original audience was largely Jewish and must be understood within that context, there is always application for us today. Men, left to their own devices, will always choose death.
Well it still does not mean his Grace is unmerited,
He gives his gifts to those who are drawn to the son from the father.
if you don't get drawn, there ain't no gift.
You can ask for his gift untill you blue in the face.
The father will decide when or if your going to get it.
The gift of faith is a free Gift, but the gift of salvation comes only after you have been refined.. and only after you have been baptised.
Don't believe and be condemned.
So it's Say here believe and be baptised. To be saved. (Two things)
Which means you believe first, which is his gift of faith, a free gift.
Then you receive salvation after your baptised.
Then the bible says in the next verse don't believe and you will be condemned.
So believing on its own is saved by faith not saved By salvation.
The free gift you are saved by is faith.
Because it says You must be baptised after you believe.
So if your baptised before you die, you receive salvation before you die.
However you may receive salvation after you die. But it could be you will be dead longer than you have to be, before you receive it.
Where in the new testament does it say you circumcise your own heart which is what you've said.
I've shown you quite clearly where a heart is circumcised by God in the new testament, but so far you have yet to show me where you circumcise your own heart, which is what you said.
But you just showed the truth.
Both moral agents with free will.
Men always chose death? How many men commit suicide? How many do everything they can to prolong their life because they do not want to die?
And how many men would want the good news of Jesus if they could be convinced it was true?
Unless I can merit his grace. it is unmerited.
Why you continue to fight this is beyond my comprehension.
Is it a must win war?