Population control?

[Gideon300]

For some unfathomable reason, some people think that the world system is trying to kill off most of the human race. I fail to see the logic in this. People are the means for Satan to express his foul nature. So Satan needs people.

Some have the idea that a device could be injected and triggered at later date to kill everyone. Apart from the lack of motive, I wonder if people know just how difficult this would be. For example, you are not able to scan a trolley full of groceries and read every barcode. That would be great as who enjoys queuing at the checkout? The problem is that moisture affects the radio waves used for the scans. I used to sell RFID scanning devices so I know something about it. It helps to remember that the human body is around 60% water.

If you really want to kill everyone, there are vastly easier ways. You can spread false ideas that terrify people so that their hearts fail them from fear. Oh. That's already happening. I won't go into other methods. Someone may be crazy enough to try. Suffice to say that those who rule the nations know.

Never fear, doom and gloomers. Your time will come. The tribulation period will see death and destruction on an unprecedented scale. I do not intend to be here to see if I'm right.

 

[shittim]

Surprised to see you post this;
It has always been the adversaries objective to destroy the created order.
Sickness, disease, lack, accidents, have always been the adversaries tools to kill people.
The Lord's realm is life, and that in abundance.
blessings

 

[DeanM]

Surprised to see you post this;
It has always been the adversaries objective to destroy the created order.
Sickness, disease, lack, accidents, have always been the adversaries tools to kill people.
The Lord's realm is life, and that in abundance.
blessings

Not to mention those promoting population control. Bill Gates might be the most well known. Then theres the abortion clinics. Satan gets a double win with abortion. Population control via child sacrifice.

 

[MsMediator]

For some unfathomable reason, some people think that the world system is trying to kill off most of the human race. I fail to see the logic in this. People are the means for Satan to express his foul nature. So Satan needs people.

Some have the idea that a device could be injected and triggered at later date to kill everyone. Apart from the lack of motive, I wonder if people know just how difficult this would be. For example, you are not able to scan a trolley full of groceries and read every barcode. That would be great as who enjoys queuing at the checkout? The problem is that moisture affects the radio waves used for the scans. I used to sell RFID scanning devices so I know something about it. It helps to remember that the human body is around 60% water.

If you really want to kill everyone, there are vastly easier ways. You can spread false ideas that terrify people so that their hearts fail them from fear. Oh. That's already happening. I won't go into other methods. Someone may be crazy enough to try. Suffice to say that those who rule the nations know.

Never fear, doom and gloomers. Your time will come. The tribulation period will see death and destruction on an unprecedented scale. I do not intend to be here to see if I'm right.

I would not think anyone would create a device to eliminate a whole world population though, as I do not see any benefit in this. However, I can see one group trying to eliminate another group, for religious/world dominance/etc. reasons. However, these types of goals/objectives are not any different from what we have seen over the centuries.

Certain countries in the past have had child limits, and/or limited government assistance to a few number of children. This was done primarily due to economic reasons, or if the government was indirectly trying to limit the number of children borne by certain races/ethnic groups since those groups were having more children. Population control is not anything new. I don't believe abortion is being used as a tool at the top national level for population control in the United States, however the result of abortion is decreased population. I think the woman/her partner/family bear the responsibility for the decision, on whether they want the child.

There is a bizarre worry of population decline and falling birth rates by Christians, though. This immense anxiety of falling birth rates is very un-Christian to me. It is as if these Christians want/expect the world to last forever, when we all know that the world may end anytime (many Christians even want Jesus to come now).

 

[Gideon300]

I would not think anyone would create a device to eliminate a whole world population though, as I do not see any benefit in this. However, I can see one group trying to eliminate another group, for religious/world dominance/etc. reasons. However, these types of goals/objectives are not any different from what we have seen over the centuries.

Certain countries in the past have had child limits, and/or limited government assistance to a few number of children. This was done primarily due to economic reasons, or if the government was indirectly trying to limit the number of children borne by certain races/ethnic groups since those groups were having more children. Population control is not anything new. I don't believe abortion is being used as a tool at the top national level for population control in the United States, however the result of abortion is decreased population. I think the woman/her partner/family bear the responsibility for the decision, on whether they want the child.

There is a bizarre worry of population decline and falling birth rates by Christians, though. This immense anxiety of falling birth rates is very un-Christian to me. It is as if these Christians want/expect the world to last forever, when we all know that the world may end anytime (many Christians even want Jesus to come now).

What bothers me more is the willingness of some to accept baseless conspiracy theories as if they were proven. I try to point out the illogical nature of such theories. And I also employ exaggeration. It is usually futile, but I feel obliged to try.

 

[LeeLoving]

I would think Satan would jump at the opportunity to eliminate everyone at the same time but there is no opportunity. It would make God out to be a liar and Satan would have something on God. He is the dragon and prowls around like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour, think about that. He is the god of this world but still goes around place to place seeking to destroy people one at a time. He is a murderer from the beginning, I don't think he is looking for a "world system" to express desires, I think he is just trying to kill, and he is a liar.

 

[ZNP]

The reason the Pharisees killed Jesus was because if they didn't, after raising Lazarus from the dead, the whole world would have followed Him. Likewise, after the rapture Satan will be in a total panic, the great deception will only last for so long until the two witnesses are raised, at which point everyone in the whole world knows you are lying. So the mark of the beast, giving them an offer they can't refuse (worship the beast or get your head chopped off) is a last resort, not the first choice. Since you can't be saved once you take the mark it is not some simple RFID chip, but rather something more like neuralink where they can control everything you see and hear as well as knowing what you are thinking.

 

[Kroogz]

For some unfathomable reason, some people think that the world system is trying to kill off most of the human race. I fail to see the logic in this. People are the means for Satan to express his foul nature. So Satan needs people.

Some have the idea that a device could be injected and triggered at later date to kill everyone. Apart from the lack of motive, I wonder if people know just how difficult this would be. For example, you are not able to scan a trolley full of groceries and read every barcode. That would be great as who enjoys queuing at the checkout? The problem is that moisture affects the radio waves used for the scans. I used to sell RFID scanning devices so I know something about it. It helps to remember that the human body is around 60% water.

If you really want to kill everyone, there are vastly easier ways. You can spread false ideas that terrify people so that their hearts fail them from fear. Oh. That's already happening. I won't go into other methods. Someone may be crazy enough to try. Suffice to say that those who rule the nations know.

Never fear, doom and gloomers. Your time will come. The tribulation period will see death and destruction on an unprecedented scale. I do not intend to be here to see if I'm right.

"I will be like the most high.." That is Satans goal. He wants to make this world a better place. He wants to have "utopia" in this world......Without God. Satan wants to make it better than God. He doesn't want us sinning and ruining his plans, for Satan wants to say, "See, I can do it better than you and without you!"

Our sin natures and freewill screw with Satans plans. Man has a plan to eliminate population and Satan is powerless to control our sin nature and freewill.

All the sin and ruining of Satans ultimate plan in this world is Satans inability to control mans sin nature and freewill.

 

[LeeLoving]

"I will be like the most high.." That is Satans goal. He wants to make this world a better place. He wants to have "utopia" in this world......Without God. Satan wants to make it better than God. He doesn't want us sinning and ruining his plans, for Satan wants to say, "See, I can do it better than you and without you!"

Our sin natures and freewill screw with Satans plans. Man has a plan to eliminate population and Satan is powerless to control our sin nature and freewill.

All the sin and ruining of Satans ultimate plan in this world is Satans inability to control mans sin nature and freewill.

1 Peter 5:8 King James Version
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

In this verse it says that Satan is our adversary, meaning he wants what is worst for us. I think he would have to be pretty desperate to want us to be living in a utopia. I obviously don't know everything, but I would think he would constantly want us to be at our worst. Scripture says he was a murderer from the beginning, he doesn't kill through physical means though. Drugs, gambling, pornography, suicide, violence, discord, strife, etc. are the tools of his trade, if I am thinking about it correctly, basically he is influencing circumstances where people are at their worst (logically, in order to be murdering from the beginning). Revelation says he is wroth when he loses to Michael the Archangel because he knows he has but a short time, and he goes to make war with the remnant of the woman's seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

I think he has great influence over the earth and could make it a utopia if he wanted to, but I honestly don't think it's his goal. I think he wants to kill humanity (as our adversary) or basically do the next worst thing he can possibly do all the way up the line, and maybe if he is ambitious enough in what he is doing to somehow contradict the word of God prophetically or something along those lines (I think he would do this in order to get something on God). I have no proof other than my understanding of scripture, but this is what is logical to me. I also think he has many angels in league with him and that this forms his spiritual principality, basically the downfall of humanity and any special circumstances he might be influencing in order to achieve something (all in vain of course).

 

[Kroogz]

For some unfathomable reason, some people think that the world system is trying to kill off most of the human race. I fail to see the logic in this. People are the means for Satan to express his foul nature. So Satan needs people.

Back in the early 2000's I heard some fascinating statistics.

We could fit the world's population in Texas, with the population density being that of New York City.

The Columbia river alone could water the entire population.

The remaining land mass of the United States alone could feed the whole population.

The natural resources in the United States alone could fuel the population for 200+ (Arguably for many more)years.


The rest of the planet could be " green."

Satan knows this, the planet has resources and a livable space for BILLIONS of more people.......But mankind in his pride and arrogance wants most of us dead.

 

[Kroogz]

1 Peter 5:8 King James Version
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

In this verse it says that Satan is our adversary, meaning he wants what is worst for us.

Believers, yes. he wants us dead and accused of the worst crimes......This is the genius Of God. Every time he accuses believers of something, Satan is actually making the case against himself.


Unbelievers though.....Satan wants them to be "good" and "moral." Get into some nice religious group and "work" at making this a better place....Then Satan can be like the most high.

 

[LeeLoving]

1 Peter 5:8 King James Version
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

In this verse it says that Satan is our adversary, meaning he wants what is worst for us. I think he would have to be pretty desperate to want us to be living in a utopia. I obviously don't know everything, but I would think he would constantly want us to be at our worst. Scripture says he was a murderer from the beginning, he doesn't kill through physical means though. Drugs, gambling, pornography, suicide, violence, discord, strife, etc. are the tools of his trade, if I am thinking about it correctly, basically he is influencing circumstances where people are at their worst (logically, in order to be murdering from the beginning). Revelation says he is wroth when he loses to Michael the Archangel because he knows he has but a short time, and he goes to make war with the remnant of the woman's seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

I think he has great influence over the earth and could make it a utopia if he wanted to, but I honestly don't think it's his goal. I think he wants to kill humanity (as our adversary) or basically do the next worst thing he can possibly do all the way up the line, and maybe if he is ambitious enough in what he is doing to somehow contradict the word of God prophetically or something along those lines (I think he would do this in order to get something on God). I have no proof other than my understanding of scripture, but this is what is logical to me. I also think he has many angels in league with him and that this forms his spiritual principality, basically the downfall of humanity and any special circumstances he might be influencing in order to achieve something (all in vain of course).

Yikes, this might read like I was adding onto Revelation, which is not what I was doing. I just added the part about Michael the Archangel, I wasn't making any commentary on it. Sorry for derailing the thread with this stuff by the way.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

For some unfathomable reason, some people think that the world system is trying to kill off most of the human race. I fail to see the logic in this. People are the means for Satan to express his foul nature. So Satan needs people.

Never fear, doom and gloomers. Your time will come. The tribulation period will see death and destruction on an unprecedented scale. I do not intend to be here to see if I'm right.

Yup, the Bible describes the tribulation of the Devil's attacks on humanity a number of times.
I'm not getting into the endless eschatology debates. I'll keep it brief, a world war will begin a series of events. None of them, including the war, will make circumstances ideal for life and reproduction. People will not be thriving.

Even now, I can list over a dozen things where the Devil, and human greed, have their impact upon reproduction and life.

You implied a question in your statement. Why has Satan not killed off mankind since there are easy ways to do so?
I suspect it has something to do with the power and intervention of God Almighty. The false God of this world has limited powers and influences, in spite of those being beyond our imagination. There is a spiritual conflict among angels as well as those demons and men. I have suffered nearly to the point of death from those attacks, however God's grace is sufficient, for when I am weak, then I am strong.
When I was assured of the powerful demonic attacks against me directly and indirectly, I added the picture up there to remind myself and the damned devil's we're up against.
It's as real as it gets.

8For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. 9And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

 

[Gideon300]

Back in the early 2000's I heard some fascinating statistics.

We could fit the world's population in Texas, with the population density being that of New York City.

The Columbia river alone could water the entire population.

The remaining land mass of the United States alone could feed the whole population.

The natural resources in the United States alone could fuel the population for 200+ (Arguably for many more)years.


The rest of the planet could be " green."

Satan knows this, the planet has resources and a livable space for BILLIONS of more people.......But mankind in his pride and arrogance wants most of us dead.

I don't agree, but that's OK.

 

[Gideon300]

Yup, the Bible describes the tribulation of the Devil's attacks on humanity a number of times.
I'm not getting into the endless eschatology debates. I'll keep it brief, a world war will begin a series of events. None of them, including the war, will make circumstances ideal for life and reproduction. People will not be thriving.

Even now, I can list over a dozen things where the Devil, and human greed, have their impact upon reproduction and life.

You implied a question in your statement. Why has Satan not killed off mankind since there are easy ways to do so?
I suspect it has something to do with the power and intervention of God Almighty. The false God of this world has limited powers and influences, in spite of those being beyond our imagination. There is a spiritual conflict among angels as well as those demons and men. I have suffered nearly to the point of death from those attacks, however God's grace is sufficient, for when I am weak, then I am strong.
When I was assured of the powerful demonic attacks against me directly and indirectly, I added the picture up there to remind myself and the damned devil's we're up against.
It's as real as it gets.

8For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. 9And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

Yes. And God responds to the prayers of the saints. That's why I believe the tribulation will occur after the real church is taken up off the earth. We are the restraining force.

Conspiracy theories such as the "vaccination is death" cult ignore the reality that God is in control. Jesus is Lord, not man or devil. I have also wrestled with demonic forces so yes, those attacks are real.

 

[SirSolaScriptura]

I heard England and Australia they are considering using euthanasia to get rid of wjat they term weak links: disabled, neurodivergent (ADHD, Autism, etc), and ill..

 

[ZNP]

I heard England and Australia they are considering using euthanasia to get rid of wjat they term weak links: disabled, neurodivergent (ADHD, Autism, etc), and ill..

Proverbs 12:10 A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.

 

[DeanM]

I heard England and Australia they are considering using euthanasia to get rid of wjat they term weak links: disabled, neurodivergent (ADHD, Autism, etc), and ill..

Assisisted suicide was a foot in the door.

 

[wolfwint]

Surprised to see you post this;
It has always been the adversaries objective to destroy the created order.
Sickness, disease, lack, accidents, have always been the adversaries tools to kill people.
The Lord's realm is life, and that in abundance.
blessings

You forget war, crime, and Naturkatastrophes

 

[wolfwint]

Not to mention those promoting population control. Bill Gates might be the most well known. Then theres the abortion clinics. Satan gets a double win with abortion. Population control via child sacrifice.

You read to much conspiracy theories! Nobody can do something what fits not in Gods plan. The future courts will show a much more effctive " population controle" then Bill Gates can do. BTW, i believe he is not the bad One many see in him.